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Old 11-03-2013, 09:21 PM   #16
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Thanks everyone for responding.............although many of you seem to be all over the place with answers. Ok so most of you agree that $850 is an average price for a puppy that a new owner would be able to register. We are not interested in showing but would have liked to have put him out for stud a couple of times to recoup some of the purchase price. Unfortunately with the conditional pedigree it will be 4 generations down from him before the pups would have a full registration. I am pretty sure there is next to none who would want to use him to sire pups if all they could get was a conditional pedigree. I spent alot of time on the phone with the AKC to try to understand what a conditional pedigree meant so I have a very clear understanding of it. I too wondered why the breeder did not know that there was a question with our little guy's father's pedigree...........but they were first timers so who knows. Perhaps they had purchased him for their female and the transfer of his papers had not gone through when the pups were born. We will be going back to the breeder to ask for $300 back on the purchase price because he was sold as a puppy who could be registered...papers given to us at the time of purchase. In answer to the questions about when we got him and what shots.....7 weeks and absolutely no shots and no spay/neuter contract either.
I'm sure your dog is very lovable and would make a great pet but he is not breeding quality. A reputable breeder doesn't give breeding rights to just anyone because they work very hard for there lines and they also do not let a puppy go before 12 weeks. Its so very important that before breeding a dog you really know there lines and know that there are no illness and stuff running in the lines.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:22 PM   #17
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I'm sure your dog is very lovable and would make a great pet but he is not breeding quality. A reputable breeder doesn't give breeding rights to just anyone because they work very hard for there lines and they also do not let a puppy go before 12 weeks. Its so very important that before breeding a dog you really know there lines and know that there are no illness and stuff running in the lines.
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I'm a pretty new Yorkie owner and didn't know enough about (nor had the confidence to question) the breeder from whom I purchased my older (1 yr old) pet quality Yorkie. The low price should've been a warning, and I took my time in dealing with the paperwork which turned out to be worthless. But I love my pup and chalk it up to life lessons--I never even considered asking for a portion of my money back.
Not saying that's what you should do, but sometimes it's better to just focus on how wonderful your new addition is for your family.
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I'm a pretty new Yorkie owner and didn't know enough about (nor had the confidence to question) the breeder from whom I purchased my older (1 yr old) pet quality Yorkie. The low price should've been a warning, and I took my time in dealing with the paperwork which turned out to be worthless. But I love my pup and chalk it up to life lessons--I never even considered asking for a portion of my money back.
Not saying that's what you should do, but sometimes it's better to just focus on how wonderful your new addition is for your family.
Forgot to add: My boy is being scheduled for neuter surgery this week, so we don't expect to recoup any money by breeding him, but that's okay. He's worth plenty just being Keegan, and being madly in love with him is why I was more careful with my next pup's purchase.
Hope you can find peace of mind one way or another.
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Thanks to those of you who had appropriate comments that were helpful in understanding Yorkies and their prices which is what I asked for. We normally go for shelter dogs that are unwanted and just as loving but this time hubby wanted a Yorkie. I did do research on Yorkies before we purchased him and found that pet quality pricing was in the $500-$600 range. For pedigreed dogs capable of showing etc the prices went up significantly from there. We were not interested in showing so didn't go for the high end but did expect him to have a least a full pedigree.

Truthfully I did not appreciate the comment about "pimping" him out. Expected more from those commenting on this forum. For those wondering if we will put him out to stud..........no ....because with a conditional pedigree no one would want to use him.

Again thank you for your comments....well at least some of you!
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Hi Peggy, welcome to YorkieTalk. I am so glad that you joined our family of Yorkie Lovers. Being new to the breed, I can understand your questions. Unfortunately it sounds like you were dealing with a less than scrupulous breeder. I would never ever release a pup at less than 12 weeks - and even 12 weeks is iffy. Each pup should be carefully evaluated for his/her readiness to leave his/her birth home.

I, too, would be very upset if I purchased a purebred pup only to learn that my pup had questionable parentage. Sounds like that the litter may have had multiple sires OR the "breeder" simply didn't know which stud sired the litter and took a guess. As for the price $850.00 is actually a very reasonable price for a healthy pet yorkie pup.

You are to be commended for adopting pets from shelters and rescues. And I can understand getting "Yorkie Fever". Would love to see pics.
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Thanks for the welcome and kind words and understanding! Much appreciated I assure you!
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If you look at a lot of the yorkies who are rescues, you are looking to spend $300-400 for an unregistered yorkie and I've seen them going for even more if they are puppies!! Sometimes you can luck out and get them cheaper, but usually not the puppies though. In fact, a lot of rescues will jack the prices up on the puppies to offset the vet bills and the low cost they have to get rid of the seniors at. The good thing is, the shots and sterilization fees are usually factored into the adoption fee!!

I just helped adopt a dog at the local humane society and we paid $325 to adopt a 4 year old mixed breed mutt.

I think I can understand your frustration though....you paid to have a registered dog. If not, you would have just paid 1/2 the money you paid and been happy to rescue a dog.
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Just as a final comment......Teddy as our little guy is named is really quite a joy. He was a slow learner about the potty training....as least slow compared to our labs but he has learned and now rings the bell to go out and thankfully living in rain country knows how to wipe his feet (pretty darn cute I might add to watch)

He is now 6 months old and yes we are looking at neutering him in the very near future. We too learned alot about breeders from this experience. Yorkies are high priced compared to our pedigreed labs and the pedigreed doxies my husband raised with his ex-wife but must admit that they are worth the money.

Now the thing to train him at is to not become so excited when people come to our house and jump all over them and lick them to death. This too will take some time and patience to get him to stop going wild when company comes.
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I can tell you I paid 900.00 each for my two pets from Texas, and almost double that for my pet from a reputable breeder in Michigan. All of them do not have breeding rights.


Not sure where you're getting yorkie pets for $500-$600 dollars, but if so, I would be very cautious.
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Welcome to YT. I am a little confused about one point, did this breeder sell you this pup with full breeding rights? Or did they sell him with a spay/neuter contract? Is that what you are calling a conditional registration? Most people who buy pets are made to sign a spay/neuter contract. A show prospect or breeder is sold with full registration.
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AKC now does a DNA type test by the 6th or so litter, so a dog that is NOT 100% full will show up as such. That may be what happened, so it is no fault of yours.........the great grandfather is not 100%..........
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Welcome to YT. I am a little confused about one point, did this breeder sell you this pup with full breeding rights? Or did they sell him with a spay/neuter contract? Is that what you are calling a conditional registration? Most people who buy pets are made to sign a spay/neuter contract. A show prospect or breeder is sold with full registration.

They sold him with NO contracts....so yes, I guess you could say they sold the pup with full breeding rights.

What you are thinking of is called Limited Registration, which is different than Conditional Registration. Limited Registration is where you can register the dog but you cannot breed it. Dogs with spay/neuter contracts get this...


Condition Registration is still somewhat of a mystery to me...but it sounds like any pup this dog produces will not be able to be fully registered for 4 generations down. There's a question in his lineage somewhere and AKC will not let the dog be fully registered.
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