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Confused - some very rare Yorkie?? Here is an ad in our local newspaper: "Yorkie, very rare. German Biewer, tri color, 2 tiny, 2.5 lbs, Fem. $7500. (425)941-2706" First of all, I am NOT looking to get another puppy. This ad just bug me. :confused: I looked at the picture mainly becasuse I want to see what a $7,500 puppy looks like. It is a white dog with a Yorkie's face. I mean if you only see the face, the shape and coloring looks just like a Yorkie. They called it a "rare" Yorkie and I don't know what to make of it. Any idea? |
Do a search on here for Biewer's & you'll see what they should look like. It is a yorkie though. I guess they are considered "rare" but not for $7500! I think the average price that I see is $2500. |
We have some Biewer breeders on YT and their puppys are beautiful! Here is a link to see some of them.http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26477 If you type Biewer in the search button you will see lots of threads about these dogs. Enjoy! |
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Never mind, I just found the search button. Thanks again. |
7500.!!!! Here is a posting for a briewer for 7500!!!!!! It was listed 2wks ago for 8000.00!!!!!!! What in the world??? http://marketplace.nwsource.com/clas...cfm?id=8171537 |
That is quite a bit for a puppy unless it was multi ch on both sides and very uncommon to have a dog of such worth advertised in a local newspaper. Hmmm, we have Rini, Sue, and Pat here that are biewer breeders & experts that may be able to cast a little light on this. I may be wrong, and apolojize if I am, but i do KNOW biewers are really expensive, but this NEWSPAPER ad seems a bit much. come'on girls...help us out here.. |
? Yeah..When I saw the $$$ I was shocked...I dont think it is normal. IS IT??????? |
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This breed is considered rare due to fact they are only 20 years in existence and there might be about 100 of this breed here in America at this time. Their heritage is from a Yorkshire and were developed into this breed by a pie-bald recessive gene to develop the colorings. Here is a couple of good links that will help you understand the breed. These are the top German Clubs that represent the Biewer Yorkshire breed as our YTCA represents the Yorkshire Terriers. International Biewer Yorkshire Terrier Club e.V. -- IBC German Biewer Yorkshire Terrier Club e.V. These links I have added are the translated links for your reading pleasure...lol. :) On the serious side it has some interesting and good factual reading on the breed and it's standard. It is my goal to educate those interested in learning about the Biewers as I have decided to get involved in being a breeder here in America. Regarding the price you read in the paper in my opinion is quite a bit over priced... :eek: If people are patient and wait they can and will find them for a reasonable price. :) This is one of my Male Biewers at his last show in Nov. We are really excited to attend the show in Lexington, Kentucky on April 8th & 9th. as well as taking some of our Biewers back to Germany in October to show in their homeland... :p |
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Thank you I think Homer is a beaut... :p I will keep all his accomplishments on my website. (which needs my attention desperately...lol) He has been such a natural for the show ring and feel very blessed to have him as a addition to my breeding program. |
7500 for a biewer is pretty obscene... although not as bad as some of the "super teacup mix breed" ads i've seen. a mix priced at $1500-2500 is bad enough, but i just saw one maltese/bichon mix, 8 oz, asking $8k. eeks! |
i think they are so pretty and would love one but they are not yet over here in the uk, if they are i cant find them. did you notice that the lovely biewer magnolia showed had its tail? |
I also have a Biewer boy who is 14 weeks..and yes the dogs are left in their natural state...long tails and have a standard tri-color! These are the most wonderful of Breeds. So like their yorkie cousins, but so different. They are true "Rainbow dogs" with all the color changes! They are very rare here in the states and getting one is quite difficult...but that price is totally outragous to me! Thankfully we have people like Sue (Magnolia Yorkies) and many others here that are working very hard to introduce the breed..correctly! This will take time and a lot of work I am so proud of them. I am just joining the group and will try to follow the guidelines they are working so hard on. And YES I love the long tails...when they are happy..their whole body is happy too! You ought to see them in real life...they are just breathtaking! |
Wow I love to see and read about all the different kinds or cousins of yorkies. They are all so beautiful! The prices are high, but I guess since they are so rare. |
Hey, though I have a Biewer and know what I went through to get a Good German breeder to work with me..I think charging that price for a pup is crazy! Yes they are new and rare here..but unless this dog had a show history here and in Germany where the costs to the owner have be so exorbitant I can not see charging so much..and this is a puppy. If people will just be a bit patient there will be more and prices will be more reasonable. I think this person is out to make a REALLY good buck..and they will probably find someone that will pay that price! So sad... |
Some people use the word Rare as a marketing tool. Lots of people will see the word and will pay more. Just another scam. There are quite a few folks on the forum who can help you if you need information the the Biewer. Don't be confused they have their own standard- so they are a breed apart from a yorkie. We also have some who have the parti- or piebald colored yorkies. |
RARE....RARE..... Oh how that makes the price of things go up...but that is a bit ridicilous! Most times it is only rare because the general public is un-educated! What a sham! |
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Biewers are few and far between but not for long. Ads like that will getting puppy machines going...sick!! |
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He is fabulous Sue! |
We had a long discussion about Biewers recently http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22853 The YTCA considers their off coloring a fault. Some breeders consider them a different breed. Some consider them Yorkies. We all consider them cute but not quite worthy of that kind of price tag. Rare? Well, part of that reason is Yorkie breeders that are trying to meet the standard would not breed a dog that color. A Yorkie breeder in Germany (Biewer) decided to run with the off color and create a new "breed" . I am still a little confused how you take 2 Yorkies and get another breed? Still waiting for an answer on that one. Anyone know if other breeds were "created" this way? |
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Faults Speaking of faults. I have talk to some Chinese Crested breeders, I happen to meet on at my handling class. CC have 3 versions. The hairless, the hairy hairless and the poweder puff. Now, neither version has a 'standard' so you can compare them to the tri color Yorkie that is AKC registered. You can show both Powder Puff and Hairless. Would you believe that a Hairless missing teeth is NOT a fault because the CC club has accepted the recessive gene that goes along with being a Hairless?..I found that rather odd..because Yorkies need all toofers :) IF the CC club didn't recognize the HL because of the recessive gene. The HL could be spun off of a breed of it's own in hopes of being accepted (just like Biewers). IF someone wanted to do so. If Germany's club accepted the Tri Colored Yorkie. There would be no need to create a different breed. I though'd I'd share that with you all in regards to acceptance and non-acceptance of recessive genes. Thought it was interesting. |
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Let me see if I can explain this...This breed was developed from a yorkie though a particular recessive gene- the "pie bald gene." After Mr. Biewer spent years to perfect the coloring pattern for this breed to arrive to the coloring standard that was set for them and that we practice for this breed. Since they have a standard and you can continue to reproduce (bred) these Biewers to to that standard they are now a breed of their own. :p Usually the mixing of other breeds is how we introduce a new breed such as a a MI KI (sp?) This is a exception to that rule it was done through Genetics.. I am not sure about any other breeds being developed that way to be honest. I know it is this procedure is used in breeding horses and know very little about that as well...lol. |
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I agree with you....the puppy millers are going to see that ad and BOOM there will be an explosion of Briewers....so scary!!! |
1 Attachment(s) I also think Homer is darling. Nice tight earset. He looks so much like my Lucia. Except she has a bit of white on her face and her hair is longer cuz she's older I think. You guys think so? |
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I have to add here that I read that ad of the over priced :mad: Biewers and my Biewers are WRV e.V. registered and it is not a registry that AKC reconizes. So that ad is being dishonest. :( Not 100% sure about the registry listed in this ad, but when we called AKC to check on the different registries that AKC does except from Germany none of registries that are used for the Biewers are excepted at this time. At least this is what we were told from AKC. |
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