Threat!
 

I take my three girls outside every two hours or so for a potty break. We live on a one acre piece of land in town that is fully fenced. The girls are only allowed in the back fenced in area. We have a doggy dog in the den and we used to allow them to run in and out through out the day......not any more. A few months ago, someone tried to steal my precious babies by cutting the chain link fence and coaxing them out.

I had just came inside when I heard them barking hysterically, I looked out and Maggie was outside the fence and Jasmine was eating something. I was horrified! I ran outside, got my girls and found the fence had been cut in two different places. I called the police and made a report. The next day Jasmine was sick with bloody diarrhea. At the time I was so focused on someone trying to steal my girls that, sad to say, I just thought Jasmine had one of her sensitive tummy issues and I treated her and within a few days she was back to her happy little self.

Before we put in a smaller fenced area just for the girls, inside our huge fenced yard, all three of the girls wore shocker collars. Yes, all three of them had gotten shocked one time in training and then they never went near the under ground system again. It emitted a high pitched sound that they would hear when they got within five foot of the under ground wire. My husband had put that underground wire at our fence completely around our property.

Anyway, we wanted to get away from the shock collars so that is why my DH fenced in a smaller area for the girls. My oldest baby, Prissy sweetest 11 year poodle you could ever ask for, used the shocker collar for years without incident. So did our other two, 1 old Maggie Mae and 5 yr. old Jasmine. Also on top of the chain link fence is three strands of barbed wire to ensure that no dogs will jump our fence and get in our yard. No dogs have ever jumped our fence.

Needless to say after the attempted dog napping of my babies, we now go out every time with them. We usually go out every two hours or so for 5 to 10 minutes. Well, last night my husband was setting outside with the girls around 9 p.m. For their last potty break and the neighbor starts screaming, telling my husband, "shut those dogs up or I will get some rat poison and feed it to them". DH said he kept repeating this and he said he "would kill our dogs".

I am just so upset! I now believe when Jasmine got sick after the fence was cut, I think he fed her something that made her sick. I am so afraid he is going to hurt my girls or kill them. I don't know what to do. They only go out for 5 to 10 minutes at a time. DH is going to record him next if this happens again. We also purchased a 9 camera security system that he is installing.


Summary: (this is what has been done)
1. fully chain linked fenced yard
2.Three strands of barbed wire on top of chain link fence
3.privacy fence with chain link on two sides of property
4. installing 9 professional grade infrared security camera system outside
5.going out with my girls (staying with them) every 2-3 hrs, 5 to 10 min increments
6. Electric driveway gate with pad entry
7. Padlock back gates
8. Inside security system on all doors and windows
9. Window breakage security system

I am afraid for my babies, your suggestions/advice/experience would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time.

Call the police and start a paper trail! If you could get it on tape either video or recorded, would the ASPCA get involved? That is a serious threat!

WoW! You've done everything I can think of to do. Have you tried talking to the neighbor? He sounds crazy, but maybe if your DH went over and tried a man to man talk, the guy will settle down a bit. Recording the neighbor's rants is a very good idea.

I'm sorry your going through all this. It's horrible having neighbors that just don't want to get along with you. I hope everyone stays safe. I'll pray for a peaceful outcome for you.

Just continue to go outside with them whe they go they are not going to do anything with you out there thats all you can do when you have scary neighbors

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WOW! I don't know what to tell you. When Cali was in service dog training they taught her to 1) not take food from anyone but me unless they gave a specific verbal command, 2) she will only take food from the left hand.

I know that might sound kind of far out, but it might be something to teach your dogs. I was told T the time of the training it was specifically aimed at dogs not getting poisoned or eating something bad for them.

We had one attempt to steal Cali T the post office when someone tried to break out the window with a tire iron, fortunately there was a detective in the post office who saw it and came to,her rescue, but I can tell you it took me forever to get over the thought of it.

I share your fears!

Yes, it is a very serious threat and I am very worried. We live in a small town with a capital S. If he continues with the threats, etc. it will be recorded. I just don't want something to happen to our girls first for something to be done. My nerves are just shot over this.

I can see you are obviously terrified. Neighbor arguments are scary because they live right near you, after awhile it simmers so long it either evaporates or boils...your case is boiling. If moving isn't an option, try a decent conversation. At this point I would definitely call the police and ask for assistance in resolving this issue so that the threads don't escalate.

If your pups were poisoned there would probably be much more...I had a dog that died from rat poison exposure...I assure you its something that can only be treated by a vet.

I hope it gets better but I would definitely try to find solutions to a happy resolve instead of letting it fester. I'm very sorry for this nonsense Hugs to you.

Yes, DH visited with the neighbor when our fence was cut. DH did not visit with him after he threatened to kill our girls...bc those remarks are extremely unstable. We didn't see who cut the fence, now we are better prepared if it were to happen again. Thank you for your concern and prayers....I have always believed in the power of prayers. Blessings to you and yours.

Wow I am horrified, please be on the alert and go out with your furbabies.
I am pasting somthing from FB that comes from Yorkieporum. I am stunned at such violence towards innocent pets!

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Tigi (Arelli Touch & Go)
25th October 2009 - 22nd June 2013

Thank you all for your prayers and thoughts....As you know Roxy didnt make it .... all 5 dogs have now gone to heaven...Please be warned they took out the big dogs first and then threw the poison into the kitchen through a window. Everyone was at home!! Such a tragedy to happen to one of the most caring loving "Yorkie" moms I have ever met. Two of my babies went to the best most loving home imaginable.

Yes, we will continue to go outside with our girls. Praying you are right and he won't do anything with me out there, however it is still very unnerving for someone to scream threats like this. I am praying his bark is worse than his bite.

You must have been so scared and felt so vulnerable when they tried to steal Cali, I know I did. My home, like most others, has always felt like a sanctuary....now not so much. Now I feel tense and on guard, ready for the other shoe to drop, so to speak.

Thank you for the advice. I will research this type of training. Sounds very interesting, again thank you. Stay safe.

I agree and Im praying with you

Yes, you are so right, I am scared. We have notified the police and DH visited with the neighbor when the fence was cut. DH did not visit with the neighbor regarding his threat bc of the seriousness of the threat. We really don't know this person and bc of that, one doesn't really know what another person might do. I mean who goes around threatening to kill someone's dogs.

Is it possible that the jerk could throw a poison over the fence? Something like a liquid that you wouldn't readily see? I know they always have their noses low to the ground, sniffing everything they can. Maybe keep them right next to the house when supervised outside? Earlier this year, Liberty became ill after a walk. We think he sniffed some weed control stuff as the gardeners had been by earlier that day. He was very sick!!!

You clearly have the right environment for a larger (guard type) Dog. You already have the "outer" perimeter set up, for it to present a barrier for your little ones, who could be given free access (via doggy door) in the second/interior confined area.

I'd suggest one of the Herding Breeds, and be brought in as a puppy, where he could attach himself to your pack well.

I shall do this exact thing for my guys soon.

You have an acre and the neighbors complain about noise? One thing is if you record the conversation you have to let the other person know its being recorded and that needs to be recorded. I know in my area you can't record a conversation without permission. So it wouldn't matter if they fessed up anything couldn't be used. But I would file a complaint to the Police so there is a record. If you can't resovle anything with the neighbor?? Maybe he sleeps at that time and some adjustments need to be made? Or he could just be sour

It could be he was just annoyed and said that but i dont put anything past people these days

I would make a police report and I would go outside armed with a pistol any time I was taking the dogs out. Anyone who threatens to poison your dogs is not worth talking to and must be treated as a mortal threat. Just sickening that you can't let your dogs run around outside now because of this sociopath.

Can you plant tall shrubs to block the view of this neighbor?

I would definitely always go out with the dogs to supervise closely, nasty neighbor or not. Sorry you are going through this. :(

Yes, we go out with them for all their potty breaks now. It usually just takes them between 5 to 10 minutes to do their business. I stay outside with them until they are finished and then I bring them back in with me. They are never outside by themselves anymore. This neighbor is mad bc they bark sometimes when they go out for those few minutes. However, we live on an acre of land...we are not butted up against his house by no means. Our house sits in the middle of the acre of land. I can hear other dogs in the neighborhood, at times from inside of my house barking....just never bothered me. I don't know of any dogs that never bark.

I guess there are just some people that really hate dogs.

Oh my goodness this is just so horrible for a person to theaten people and their dog's this way. He must a be miserable piece of trash to say things like this.

I know you are on high alert when you take your dog's out, but you be careful for your self as well.

I would check your local Gun laws first so your rights. You need to know what a threat is. Not every State has Castle Doctrine laws

Jamine, what did the police recommend the first time you called them?

We have consider the prospect of moving, but like so many others, we love our home. We did the landscaping our selfs, all the rooms have "our signature" on them, bought our place 14 years ago so most of our grandchildren know only this place as "Papa and Nannys". Our church that we love is close and DH teaches Sunday school there. Just a few more months then home is paid off. But, if this does escalate we just might have to do this.

Oh, and thank you for explaining about the rat poison to me, but so sorry about your dog that died from it. Blessings to you and yours.

Welcome to my world....and MY neighbor is a police officer with hoodlum kids that are dealing me misery. I NEVER let my babies outside without me being right with them, because of holes in or under the fence, predator birds, bob cats, etc. But I never dreamed the little b******* would throw fish hooks into my yard. My back yard is "fenced and cross fenced" to keep them from even going anywhere near that side of the yard because I am so fearful poisoned meat will be tossed over the fence....not because my babies bark, but just because they are my babies and I reported the thugs when they shot out my car windows and it pizzed them off. I have the 9 camera security system, I also have a laser system that throws beams across the yard, so that if anyone comes over the fence, they will break the beam and an alarm will sound inside the house. I have every thing else you listed...my privacy fence is 8 feet tall, but that wonty keep them from throwing stuff over tthe fence. My babies do not go out into the "big yard" where I have all their ecercise equipment and fun activity center set up, until I do a complete and thorough sweep of the yard on that side of the house. I set up swimming pools over here by the patio area....the babies all stay over here in this area, where the thugs can not access.......I have this area covered by concrete and flag stones, so it is easier for me to see stuff on the ground......it is pretty dad gum sad when we have to be terrified for the safety of our kids and animals.....and even our homes, as this thug "of mine" was caught setting the local elementary school on fire.

I was recommending it for the case that say, in a fit of anger the guy tries to cut through the fence and stomp one of her babies. I can't imagine shooting someone who is physically attacking your dog would be treated like shooting someone running off with your DVD player. One thing is, I would never display it, since that would be seriously egging this sociopath neighbor on, and you don't want to do anything to set this guy off emotionally.

I hadn't thought about that, but anything is possible. DH is so good to keep their yard manicured and the fence row free of weeds. He also keeps their yard treated for ticks, fleas, stickers and weeds. It is so aggravating to know that he is doing all that he knows to keep a nice, clean, safe environment for our girls just for someone to come along and destroy our peace of mind and jeopardize their safety/health.

So sorry to hear about Liberty...pray that all is well with him now.

We did try this a year ago. I had wanted a standard poodle so, I bought a beautiful standard male. Just gorgeous and so very smart....huge. Loved this dog, however our little Jasmine 5 yr. old 6 lb. yorkie did not love nor like him. She terrorized him from day one and we could never train her to leave him alone. He was a gentle giant. I don't know if she treated him that away bc of him being male, bc of his size or what. Anyway, I was able to rehome him with a very good person who loves him very much. Maybe it would work with a female guard dog.

What breed of herding dog do you recommend and do you think it would work if I got a female guard dog instead of a male. They would have to get along bc I could never leave a dog outside. Thank you for your recommendation.

When someone can't control his anger enough to where he would actually say something like that I wouldn't bet on him being able to control his anger enough to not do what he threatens. I would seriously get the police involved ASAP so there's a paper trail at least involving this person.