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spiritwings1202 · 06-03-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie

I agree. I love my Rosie to death. And I think she is the perfect dog for me. When something happens to her I believe God will take care of me and put another pup in my path. I don't believe he intended on me cloning her. I teach Science. Science is science. I don't always agree with some of it. Cloning is something I don't agree with. Just my opinion.

spiritwings1202 · 06-03-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420

All I can say is I'm glad the rest of the my time on this earth is short...I am sick to death of people playing God, now to defeseless animals...Dear Lord please don't let them clone me, I'm worn and tired and certainly don't want to do it all over again...When this world is perfect, then we can think of cloning...this to me is just disgusting, as was Dolly the lamb. Imagine the cloning debates down the line..."Cloning for all" discriminating againts the right to clone...inhumane not to clone my brother Charlie Manson...etc....uggghhhh....

well said Lynzy!

Maximo · 06-03-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202

I also think science is science and things can go terribly wrong ,nothing is fool proof. Then what do you end up with a messed up dog that reminds you of your cloned dog and you love it bc you agreed to clone it so your stuck with the deformities or health issues and heart ache. It's knida not fair to the dog....I wouldn't want anyone cloning me! lol that would just be scary!!!

I'll have to go back and read, but I thought there were problems with Dolly the cloned lamb and the animals in other studies -- problems that arose from cloning. I think an Asian company that claimed to have successfully cloned animals was found to be a hoax.

spiritwings1202 · 06-03-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I'll have to go back and read, but I thought there were problems with Dolly the cloned lamb and the animals in other studies -- problems that arose from cloning. I think an Asian company that claimed to have successfully cloned animals was found to be a hoax.

That makes a lot of sense! I think I remember a cloned calf coming out with 5 legs

The 4 M · 06-03-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I'll have to go back and read, but I thought there were problems with Dolly the cloned lamb and the animals in other studies -- problems that arose from cloning. I think an Asian company that claimed to have successfully cloned animals was found to be a hoax.

Oh I had forgot about Dolly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_(sheep)

Teresa Ford · 06-03-2013, 12:31 PM

I would not clone. A copy of the original is not the original.

spiritwings1202 · 06-03-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

I would not clone. A copy of the original is not the original.

I agree!! I like that quote!!

capt_noonie · 06-03-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I don't see how cloning would work other than to make the dog the same in appearance. Disposition would be influenced by experiences, so the dog couldn't possibly be exactly the same. For me, there can only be one Max & Teddy. It would be harder on me dealing with the loss to have a clone.

Totally agree.

Also did you notice the company doing the cloning is in Korea? Can't help but think of the Korean puppymills, dog farms, etc that go on there. Perhaps their laws about animals there aren't like here? Not that our animal protection laws are all that strict, but just saying.

capt_noonie · 06-03-2013, 12:43 PM

Are any of you familiar with the anime Full Metal Alchemist? This really reminds me of it but in real life. Two brothers lose their mother, and try to bring her back to life with alchemy. In the process the younger brother loses his body (but not his soul) and the older brother loses his arm. The mother was brought back momentarily but was not "their" mother, just sorta resembled her, in a meltingly zombie-ish way. I know just a cartoon, but this anime was deep.

The underlying tone of the show was you cannot get or gain anything without taking it from someone else.

In this case, [supposed] good homes could be adopting/rescuing pets in need facing death row, instead they spend tens of thousands to clone (resurrect?) their pet, now no longer having the space in their home to save another pet.

And all that money spent could have been used for good. Instead they had to be selfish and greedy and try to bring back the dead, which is not going to be the same as their passed pet, bc they are only similar in looks!

Even twins who have the same DNA, not only do they act and have completely different personalities, they are not 100% identical! Puppies from the same litter can have huge differences in looks. Aren't pups in the same litter have the exact same DNA?

yakkwak · 06-03-2013, 01:10 PM

Addresing the science side of this discussion: identicals are not exactly identical, due in part to a process referred to as gene expression. Regardless of environment-organism interaction, an organism cannot be "exactly" duplicated. So if you were to be cloned, your copy would not be an exact duplicate of you.

06-03-2013, 12:31 PM	#21
Teresa Ford Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida Posts: 3,863	I would not clone. A copy of the original is not the original. __________________ Teresa & Rubin, Gracie, Abba, Ginny Joy and Julia Rose Act like a dog, be kind, forgiving, and loyal.

06-03-2013, 12:43 PM	#24
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	Are any of you familiar with the anime Full Metal Alchemist? This really reminds me of it but in real life. Two brothers lose their mother, and try to bring her back to life with alchemy. In the process the younger brother loses his body (but not his soul) and the older brother loses his arm. The mother was brought back momentarily but was not "their" mother, just sorta resembled her, in a meltingly zombie-ish way. I know just a cartoon, but this anime was deep. The underlying tone of the show was you cannot get or gain anything without taking it from someone else. In this case, [supposed] good homes could be adopting/rescuing pets in need facing death row, instead they spend tens of thousands to clone (resurrect?) their pet, now no longer having the space in their home to save another pet. And all that money spent could have been used for good. Instead they had to be selfish and greedy and try to bring back the dead, which is not going to be the same as their passed pet, bc they are only similar in looks! Even twins who have the same DNA, not only do they act and have completely different personalities, they are not 100% identical! Puppies from the same litter can have huge differences in looks. Aren't pups in the same litter have the exact same DNA? __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

06-03-2013, 01:10 PM	#25
yakkwak YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dallas Posts: 319	Addresing the science side of this discussion: identicals are not exactly identical, due in part to a process referred to as gene expression. Regardless of environment-organism interaction, an organism cannot be "exactly" duplicated. So if you were to be cloned, your copy would not be an exact duplicate of you.