Teeth cleaning

[Teegy]

I know many of you on here are not supporters of raw feeding and have no intentions of trying it, but I want to share something.

One reason I switched to a holistic vet was that my mainstream vet saw plaque on Teegy's teeth and said three things to me.
1. I can clean those for $900 (won't repeat what I said)
2. I have dental food (won't tell ya the response to that either)
3. When I mentioned I can find products that will clean that, I got a "there aren't any, but I can get you one"

He had already lost me at $900.
I went home did some googling and found Leba III, Petzlife and Healthymouth.

All these products are fantastic, I've recommended them to friends and family and the results are fantastic.
But the best inexpensive thing for teeth cleaning I have found to date are pork back ribs. One meaty little rib for them to happily chew on a couple of times a week has removed more plaque in a shorter time than anything I've tried and it's good for them.

So please consider a wee meaty bone for your furkids over anaesthesia and costly dental cleanings. I absolutely promise you it's not harmful, it's a species appropriate, twice weekly treat and how much does a meaty rack of pork ribs cost. Just be sure to cut them up and freeze for two weeks before feeding them to the dogs. I know many of you are concerned about bacteria etc., this kills any bacteria present.

[107barney]

Some of us don't buy into the hype of raw food cleaning teeth. I've fed a home cooked soft diet and have one dog who didn't need a dental until age 11. Another dog eating the identical diet needs a dental every year. So it's genetics. And despite your promise that raw food is safe, I respectfully disagree. You cannot kill pathogenic microbes in meat without fully cooking it. And freezing doesn't kill bacteria, it suspends it. It also does nothing for parasites. So you may feel its safe, I don't and not one vet I've ever met has ever thought positively of raw food but all support my holistic way of feeding home cooked organic food. I think you're playing with fire and I could go off for an hour on pork processing and why that would be my last choice but I know it won't change your mind so ill leave it at this -- dental cleanings under anesthesia are safe as long as your vet is progressive and using appropriate anesthesia and monitoring. $900 for a dental is high, but your dogs teeth must have been pretty bad. I would be concerned with cleaning below the gum lines - pork ribs can't do that.

[Teegy]

As is your right to disagree. My holistic vet wholeheartedly agrees with my choices as do a huge majority of raw feeders.
There are many myths out their attached to raw feeding which many folks fail to see passed.
Cooking meat kills all the essential enzymes in the meat that are necessary for maintaining a healthy happy immune system.
I am very confident in my decision to feed raw to my dogs.
I have done my research.
Yes dentals can be a genetic thing but also the carbs in kibble and processed dog foods cause plaque and tartar buildup.
I merely offered this as an option for people to try rather than costly invasive dental procedures that can be avoided. It does work there is nothing wrong with feeding dogs pork. I am fortunate that my purveyors use free range local farmers.
Many maintstream vets are strongly opposed to raw feeding as you spend less time at their office and aren't purchasing the food they are pushing which they make their livin from selling.

[lovespandp]

How on earth is a dental $900???

I live in Calif and go to a very expensive vet and Peanut's dental's are only $125

[Ellie May]

What enzymes does cooking kill and at what levels are they necessary for dogs? I have always wondered this.

[Teegy]

Essential amino acids Dr Karen Becker has a lot of info on this if you need further supporting info from a trained Holistic vet

[Teegy]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

How on earth is a dental $900???

I live in Calif and go to a very expensive vet and Peanut's dental's are only $125

I think it's called daylight robbery to be honest, I was disgusted. I checked a few friends with other vets in my area and they said generally it's $3-500 for the most part.

Was talking to my neighbour who's from Michigan and she said she cannot believe how much more expensive so many things are here in Canada

[107barney]

I honestly think your comments regarding mainstream vet medicine are out of line. The vets I use are not neighborhood losers trying to sell foods for penny profits. I don't look for cheap vets and I think you get what you pay for. I think the whole enzyme thing is without merit. Not a fan of Becker. My dogs teeth are nice and clean, and no, I don't mind paying for professional services. As for the myths with raw feeding, I could say the same to you.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Teegy

I think it's called daylight robbery to be honest, I was disgusted. I checked a few friends with other vets in my area and they said generally it's $3-500 for the most part.

Was talking to my neighbour who's from Michigan and she said she cannot believe how much more expensive so many things are here in Canada

That is still crazy! LOL

[Teegy]

Not taking the bait pal. To each is own we all have the right to disagree and I stand by my decisions and choices

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Teegy

Not taking the bait pal. To each is own we all have the right to disagree and I stand by my decisions and choices

Neither am I. I stand by my decisions as well. Dental cleanings are safe. Safer than raw pork.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Neither am I. I stand by my decisions as well. Dental cleanings are safe. Safer than raw pork.

Ya Pal!!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Neither am I. I stand by my decisions as well. Dental cleanings are safe. Safer than raw pork.

I didn't think pork was good for them?

[107barney]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Ya Pal!!

Thanks pal. I appreciate being called pal. Especially when someone really is my pal. Gotta run, eating baby back ribs for lunch. Yes they are cooked!

[Ellie May]

Essential Amino Acids That Are Destroyed By Cooking | Hidden Valley

Here is a nice read. I may dig up some studies later.
If cooking meat for dogs is wrong bc of aa destruction, then the same is true for humans. I am not about to eat raw meat...

I am not a fan of Dr. Becker. Her heartworm advice is of particular concern. My understanding is that she believes it is not as much of a concern as what it is portrayed. I can't agree knowing how many caees just oe vet office has seen this year.

All I will say is giving bones or chews of any kind is never perfectly safe.