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There is probably a lot of things that I do that would make people on YT cringe. Like right now, I'm sitting here typing this, and Jackson and my dads dogs are running back and forth along the fence as our neighbor rides his four wheeler by on the other side (they chase him through the fence). I can't physically see them at this point in time, but I hear them barking and know they're still running. I actually meant to post the video from last week that I made, lol, of me riding by on the four wheeler and them chasing me. Goingto do that now... |
FWIW I let Moki act like a dog. But I let him out on my porch that has a gate and he can't get off. Period no way he can. He uses a grass potty pad. I let him go into the fenced yard supervised only. My previous dogs I let out all the time no supervision. They since passed. But before I got Moki a Coyote jumped the neighbors 6ft fence and grabbed the 12+ # mix dog and jumped back over. She saw the whole thing from her window. Since then Moki will always in my sights. With me close. Every yard ,every situation is different. I don't judge because I'm not there. But IN MY AREA imo if your dog isn't at least medium to large size or a Tough Terrier like a Jack or Border I would watch them 24/7 if it were mine. A Coyote with kill a Jack or Border but they can run fast and are feisty.. In the house it can be dangerous also. But I doggy proofed what I could. And if he's is going to be left home alone or if nobody is watching him he goes in the room which is the kitchen and rec room shut in with baby gates.JMO |
I personally think this thread has gotten way out of hand..Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views, and we shouldn't be "judging" one another. I think we all should respectfully agree to disagree on this subject. I think everyone here cares and loves their babies, end of story..JMO |
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I stand by the above, IMHO its gambling. I have seen dogs here on YT that have died for all of the reasons above, and I pulled a bloody dog and held him in my arms as he died last night, so yes I've seen it first hand. I have had a dog die from contact with a possum, and yes I know for sure it was a possum cause my dear Hugo bit it, killed it didn't eat it. He dropped it the second I screamed. Within a couple days he was yellow like American Cheese, he died a horrible death, H O R R I B L E, death, because a neighbor had put out rat poison baits that the possum got in to and then my dog bit the possum. I have had 26 dogs (Mia2 makes it 26!) I can tell you dozens of stories of the things that have happened. I will not change my stance on small dogs being outside unattended, I've read here and all over the things that can and do happen everyday. I do know that most of our YTers are very in tune with their pets and I also know that we all have a different way of handling things. I'm tired of seeing dead dogs here, in the news, in my life for stupid nonsensical reasons...usually owner errors.... I also have some good friends that let their little dogs out in the yard, they make it as safe as can be and most times things don't happen...but sometimes they do, and dogs die everyday because of it. I'm not judging anyone here, my Original thread post is how I do feel, and I wish most people didn't do these things...especially the ones who have half a brain and no conscience. I don't like how it became an I'm better than you thread... For those of you who do let your dogs out regularly: If you can't be out with them, check on them regularly Examine your fences and yards for anything potentially dangerous, especially after wind storms etc. If you have a gate put a lock on it and use it all the time so others won't let them out etc. Just be vigilant and tenacious in always making their area safe as can be, nothing is 100% safe. For the record, my dogs never go outside without me ever, my dogs are trained to potty inside, my dogs don't go in the yard unless on a leash (cuz they are bad and I'm a bad trainer)...Mini rarely goes out cuz she is allergic to everything and should live in a plastic bubble!!! |
I was sitting here and came up with just as many if not more things that can happen inside a house to hurt or kill a dog! Stairs, cleaners, foods, bones even dog toys or dog food. You have to realistic about things! There are not coyotes in my area but they will go into neighborhoods. If I ever get a smaller Yorkie I would definitely not be letting them go out by there self. It's just kinda funny that I am sure no one does everything perfect with there dog some are not potty trained, some bite some tear things up ect just because those sound like the owner is doing something wrong doses mean its a cut and dry case like maybe the dog bites because they where abused. Just about everything should be taken case by case. No one knows it all. |
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Good job Taylor, we are all different, we all have different opinions, and beliefs. It goes on and on...my post is my opinion...on and on...we all do things differently....! We just all, myself included, have to accept that not everyone is going to agree with everything we say but if we all just agree to disagree we will be so much better for it. Kind of like Bulls Penis'....I can not believe anyone would give their dogs Bully Sticks and yet they do!!!:D:D:D |
There are so many ways a dog can get hurt. I wonder how many people leave dressed and collared dogs home alone and they can get caught up in and in so much trouble in them. One little girl tried to get out of her dress and panicked, tore herself up trying to get loose, banging into and hanging up on things, took months to get over her anxiety state. They can hang on their cage, break their leg trying to climb it, eat electric cords, eat and swallow furniture, baseboard wood, can dislocate a shoulder jumping off the couch or bed. I know of a dog who ripped his brand new blanket and wound it around his leg for hours cutting off all circulation for hours, lost the leg. Collars hang up in mouths, they climb the gates and fall off, breaking things, etc. There are dangers when leaving a dog home alone while we work or shop or run errands. No place is all that safe really. |
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I would be cautious though my friend Jim had a great gated system on his porch for his poodle Noel, unfortunately the next door neighbors Rotty Xena found a way over that gate and it was a tragedy. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't etc., I'm just telling you to think of all possibilities...maybe a higher fence etc...just in case. |
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Hahaha even I have things I do that would make people cringe...like Miss Mini...no I can't tell that one!!! |
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ALRIGHT!!! MY KIND OF YORKIE DADDY!!!!! |
This thread certainly took a turn....Lynzy I'm so sorry you witnessed that tragedy, that is an image I would not want in my head. I for one do not let my pups out without supervision....my yard is small, with a locked gate...they are NOT out alone, EVER! Call me overprotective, overbearing, crazy yorkie lady....they don't go out without mommy right there. We have hawks and vultures here...spotted one this week looking for dinner...'alright everyone one inside'. The three of them looked at me like I had lost every ounce of good sense I was given. They had been out for all of two minutes...sorry guys you aren't going to be dinner for buddy circling up there...they grumbled and sulked but in they came. The vulture that was circling was massive...easily could have made off with 15lb Orion! |
Lynzy so sorry to hear what a tragedy you went through. Talking about our babies being outside and the dangers. Just yesterday while outside with Gigi we were walking around the yard and I was talking to her about the flowers, (I always ask for her opinion) anyhow I look behind me and she isn't there. I see her about 20 feet away rolling all over something. I run over there and she is rolling all over a dead baby SNAKE... Yikes..... I had to fight her to get it away for her. Thank goodness it was dead. But you never know what is going to turn up in your yard, fenced to not. Gigi is one of those that will eat anything she finds, and I have the emergency vet hospital bills to prove it... Have to have an eye on them at all times. |
I know the sound that lynzy is taking about. I heard it when I was a kid walking to school. A neighborhood dog saw a good friend on the other side of the road and went running out into the road to meet her. He was hit by a car he never saw. I saw it. I heard it. I will never forget it as long as I live. We had some people with two Basset Hounds move in down the road from us last summer. They are now allowing the dogs to roam around unattended. I have found them in my backyard on several occasions. We live outside of town down some distance from the main road. But that road is one of those that people drive very fast on. I know one of these days I am going to have to witness at least one of those dogs die in the road. I have done what I can to try to get these people to realize the danger they are subjecting their dogs to, not to mention the bother they are to me and others in the area. They bark and chase other animals. I don't want to see the poor dogs die in the road. I don't want to hear it. I wish people like this would just not get animals. These people don't have a fenced yard. When they do try to keep the dogs from roaming free they tie them up outside and let them bark for hours at a time. Why do people get animals when they can't care for them properly? |
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I can definitely see both sides of this. I can't help but think that danger is lurking everywhere, but at the same time I want my yorkie to enjoy being a dog chasing birds, eating bugs, etc. At this time, Barney is not allowed outside alone. He is just too little. But when he is older I plan to let him play in the fenced area of our yard. That aside, as long as none of you are doing the deed in front of your yorkies, you're good parents. (just kidding...reference to another thread). |
My husband wanted to gett a doggie door I said no way we get raccoons and I dont want my dogs going out or the raccoons coming in |
I think everyone has the right to raise their dogs as they feel comfortable. As long as they are not abusing their animals it is a personal choice. there will be some who protect their dogs from EVERY danger but still fall victim to something random. If you have a clear conscience and feel you are doing whats best for your dogs thats all that should matter and be respected by everyone. You may not agree with their choice but respect their decision to make what they think is in the best interest of their pet.. |
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Goodf information give in these postings, I must agree, my yorkies never are unattended outside. Too many things that can happen to them in a flash. Thanks and keep your babies safe they depend on you for that. |
If you must let your pups out by themselves, make sure you check your fenced area regularly for all the things I listed...you NEED to inspect your yards and fences daily....in this case a rabbit hole at the fence was the culprit... Until you have had to run down a street in bare feet because you heard the screaming from a block away, and util you've have to crawl underneath a car and pull a small pup who's hind part of body was mush, full of blood and heard the sound coming from his terrified little self until he choked on his own blood cuz all I could do was hold him tight as he died in MY ARMS cuz his owner was too busy screaming instead of helping....then you can tell me that my post is wrong. I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm telling you what can and does happen daily, the thing that gets me is that I've seen all of these things HERE on YT and still.... |
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I cant imaganine how horrible it was. I have heard that sound one time, I have had a pup die in my arms from kidney failure, I have nurse bailey back to health from a back injury...and I cry every time I read this thread. I was turned down from adopting a dog because I said I would put the pup in a crate/play pen when I wasn't home. I said that because I had a pup shocked when chewing on a light cord.... luckily I was home and pulled the plug in time. The rescue felt it was dangerous to crate a dog. My point... we all have strong feelings on how to care for our children and our dogs. There is not any absolutes ... we must all just do our best for our dogs. There was a time I may have left my dogs outside, now I won't... I change, I learn.. I will do my ever living best. I will also do my best not to judge and it pisses me off when I am judged. Lynzy ... I think you do a great job. I am sooooo sorry you had to go through this pain..but at least that poor little soul had you to hold him. hugs Shinja |
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Tibbe used to escape out the front door more than he ever got out the back until I trained him not to do that. Watch your front doors as well as the back yard and home alone situations and be certain we trust the people we have watch them when they are not with us. Dogs staying at the vet, groomers, daycare, pet hotels, homes of family and friends, etc., are also at risk. Going over how your dog will be secured and kept safe with their caregiver when you are away from them is also vitally important. Dogs traveling with us must be watched and kept safe. Dogs left in cars are at risk of any number of things. Train your dogs not to come near the open front door and not to leave their front yards for extra safety and be very careful where and with whom we leave them. |
Lynzy I am so sorry to hear about the tragedy. But know that you trying to help the pup was wonderful. |
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