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03-21-2013, 11:49 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska
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| Treat Driven Joel is really treat driven and i'm not sure if thats good or bad, lol Like when I ask him to do something he stands there until I say he'll get a prize then he does it, he is so good when I groom him or whatever I need to do because I give him treats for everything so is it okay if he only listens if I say he'll get something as long as he does everything I ask? Does that sound fine or could It be a problem later. |
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03-22-2013, 03:50 AM | #2 |
♡Huey's Human♡ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ringgold, Ga
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| I think it is fine as long as he is being treated for being good. My treat training backfired when I taught him to "trade" for when he has something he shouldn't-a coin, a plastic wrapper, etc.- so now he has learned to find anything in the house he isn't supposed to have and then flaunt it in front of us so we will treat him for a "trade". He can't even be tricked because he wont drop the offending object until he sees the treat in my hand. I have even tried to ignore the fact he has something bad to see if he loses interest, but he will toss said object in the air in front of me and grab it back up until he gets a treat, then he runs off to find something else. (Thanks Victoria Stillwell...that worked out well...)
__________________ Huey's mom, Marilyn :When a day starts & ends with puppy kisses, I can handle anything that comes in between! |
03-22-2013, 05:18 AM | #3 |
♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia
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| Joel sounds like my boys -- He doesn't work for free. For the most part, it is okay. Ideally dogs should know to follow commands without always receiving a treat. I'm guessing a lot of pets need a food incentive often. My boys will always do a sit no matter what, but they are less reliable on all other tricks unless I have a treat for them. Teddy will come when I call him, but Max usually needs more encouragement like food or his harness to go walking. In an emergency situation, like if the dog gets out or loose, it is good for the dog to know how to respond without a treat incentive.
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03-22-2013, 05:38 AM | #4 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan USA
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| That system works for me. Now when I ask Sophie to do something like go outside to potty or preform tricks she remembers all the "treatable" commands and does them immediately knowing what follows a completed request.
__________________ Jackie Loves Sophie R.I.P ."Baby" our little girl 1993-2009 |
03-22-2013, 06:02 AM | #5 |
♡Huey's Human♡ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ringgold, Ga
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| That's funny to me because the 3 times Huey has gotten out of the house off leash, the way we finally got him to come (because he apparently forgot his name or went temporarily deaf) was to shake a bag of treats. He came back home at top speed!
__________________ Huey's mom, Marilyn :When a day starts & ends with puppy kisses, I can handle anything that comes in between! |
03-22-2013, 06:11 AM | #6 |
♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia
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| That makes perfect sense. Just be sure to always have treats handy. My boys are not treat motivated outdoors. I could have a plate of chicken breasts (their favorite) and Max would keep running. Teddy got out once to chase the UPS truck. I was returning home and saw him. The only reason he came to me when I called him is he was happy to see me.
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03-22-2013, 07:36 AM | #7 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska
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| He's actually good about doing stuff without seeing or smelling a treat because he knows he always gets one after. But he does love to grab things he's not supposed to have and run in my view and just stand there and wants me to chase him, he's getting better about it though |
03-22-2013, 08:20 AM | #8 |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| Small dogs are usually just in it for the treats and aren't interested in doing something you want until they know what's in it for them. They are far more human-like in this regard than the larger dogs, who often do things for achievement and praise and even pride. Small dogs and particularly Yorkies are in it for what they can get. Tibbe only works for his "paycheck" usually. Well, not so much anymore - now that doing things is fairly rote for him. But when he was younger, he expected to get paid for his work and no doubt about it. But even today, if I forgot to give him his treat for coming in when called from outside, he will stand by the couch for 30 minutes until I get him his "paycheck"! Little toot.
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
03-22-2013, 08:20 AM | #9 |
and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington
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| I think as long as you don't over do it with the treats, it's fine!
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03-22-2013, 08:23 AM | #10 |
and Shelby's too Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Millbrook, AL
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| Mandie is the same. Especially when we are outside in the backyard. 9 times out of 10 when I say, "Ok, let's go back inside," she completely ignores me. Like I am not even there. If I say, "Come back inside. Let's get a treat," she comes running. LOL
__________________ Terri, proud mom to Mandie & Shelby-Dale |
03-22-2013, 09:14 AM | #11 | |
♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia
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