I was kidding ma'am. I could never have that many dogs people are pissing me off. I love my 2 dogs so much. They don't even go outside without me they are everything to me if I leave for a day or so to go see my mom I have a empty spot that misses them if that isn't care for a dog idk what is... Don't say I don't care because I do I trey them like they are my kids I have both in my bed everynight stuck to me like glue I sure dont let my his and do that. I'm the kind of person who loves them more than I love my husband they cone inbetween me and him its pitiful.

I am kidding ma'am I don't want a yard full that would be to much for me. I don't even let my dogs out without me so me watching a yard full would be crazy. I do care for my dogs they are everything to me people are just pissing me off. I do everything for them like they are my own kid. If I leave for a few days I have a empty spot that misses them they are all I think about. My husband hates that I give them more attention than him so I'm pretty sure I care about them. My little girl is in my lap while I rub her belly right now thats love right there. You people act like everyone is so stupid like y'all know more but I've been we'll educated on this my mom was a breeder of some of the. Top of the line yorkies I just wanted something diffrent so I got my morkie and guess what I love her more than any of the yorkies I've ever had their is something about her so.

Taylor can I just say I am highly impressed at the wealth of knowledge you possess, I know people often don't like to hear the truth but you did a great job of explaining....I for one hope you never give up advocating and educating on behalf of the breed that you so obviously care so much about...I admire your devotion and your tenacity in standing up for what you believe, this thread is loaded with very good information. Thank You!

Hi welcome to YT. Hope all goes well with your whelping. Would love to see pics of the babies.

Taylor, I love your passion for yorkies and for quality breeding - I don't think you should ever stop educating about this, bc your passion will make a difference in the world -- even if/when it doesn't feel like it and you get discouraged about making a difference.

That said, I would agree with you that you may have gotten a little rough on this thread...and that this probably caused much of your message to be lost (geez, this happens to *all* of us, ya know?). When you said above "it burns me the wrong way"...I couldn't help but wonder/realize that's probably how Courtneypage felt too by the interaction. She may have responded better to the info had it been delivered/tweaked a bit differently. Who knows?

Courtney - I doubt anyone here thinks you're 'stupid'; if they do, they aren't people who would be meaningful to the discussion. People here really do care about yorkies and animals, there is so much passion here - and sometimes when we're passionate here, our typed words might be interpreted in ways we didn't mean. It's clear that you care...if you didn't care, I doubt you'd have come here to ask questions. Please understand that YT has been a forum for 8 years now, and during that 8 years we've seen horrible, tragic things happen as a result of indiscriminate breeding. The advice given here is almost always given from a place of good intention for both the dog and the owner. If you stick around and maintain an open mind, I guarantee you'll learn some worthy information. :)

It's hard to find helpful advice when you have a pregnant dog it's a really scary time and made worse when you have people screaming "back yard breeders" My little girl has just had her first and may I say last litter, reason I wanted her to have a litter was to have a baby with her and my first boys DNA as you say wrong or right I have 3 that will need good home that I am sure I will find without any problems and if not they would not end up in a shelter I would end up with more dogs. Like all advice and what is said you take with you what you want and forget the rest. Wish you all the luck when it comes, molly went the full 63 days, all would say is read and read some more re birth good and bad so you know what to do and use your knowledge of your girl she will surprise you fold over I bet.. Mine did and still is.

People who work with shelters and rescues do see many purebred and mixed breed dogs (even the small ones, including Yorkies) in shelters. Many changes happen in people's lives. They think they want that cute little furry puppy but don't realize all that goes into training a dog to be a good family member. Then there are those who are just plain irresponsible. Either way there are way too many dogs in shelters.
In the NYC area small breed dogs pour into the shelters daily. It is a pitiful sight to see. It is tragic.
I hope you interview your prospective owners very well but even the best owners have changes in circumstance in their lives. It is a huge responsibility that you are undertaking.

In addition to the countless thousands of City and County Dog Pounds and shelters, NoKill and Kill shelters there are countless thousands of breed specific rescue organizations as well.

It is a matter of fact, and grossly underestimated here, the true number of purebred dogs, Yorkies...and mutts that are killed, or let me be kinder... EUTHANIZED on a DAILY basis because there simply aren't enough people willing to adopt them? Wrong, its because people are uneducated, overbreeding and trying to make a buck...and people treat animals like crap and %$#@*&^%

I don't think this is really helpful to someone who is looking for advice at such a important time, don't think it's fair to say people who are not breeders don't care about there dogs or just want to make money, like I said it should be about supporting people in need who have a yorkie not making someone feeling awful and that they may raise a pup that ends up "killed" awful not helpful.

I did not see a breeder having a problem or looking for advice. She posted an announcement of her up coming litter.

I always thought a "mutt" was a mix of 2 breeds and a "mongrel" was a mix of more than 2 breeds.

We had a mongrel when I was young, they thought she was shepherd, collie and ??. She was the best dog ever. She "found" us while she was in heat and she was starving. We fed her and she stuck around and we posted signs and notices for many weeks. We named her Hungry, because she always was. She was well trained and sweet, but barked horribly when men came to the door. We think a man dumped her while she was is heat... Sadly, we lost her the way we found her...she just disappeared one day. (she was allowed outside....this was the old days and our neighborhood backed to trees. Back then you could let your dog out without being sued) Whenever I hear "mongrel" I think of her because that was when I learned the word.

She was probably better behaved than my little yorkiepoo mutt that I raised! Maggie is a sweetheart too, but not as well behaved. (she only comes if she wants to!)

The fact that the word "nervous" was used will say again awful not helpful

The fact that this is also not her first litter would indicate the breeder is experienced.

First or second litter it's still scary and no need to make it worse by unhelpful comments of trying to make people feel like rubbish, lots of people read this site and the thought that someone would come away from it thinking having a pregnant dog makes you care less for your dog or that you just want to make money is wrong and awful

I'm sorry that hearing about thousands of dogs dying in shelters makes you so uncomfortable. I would not have even commented if the OP had not stated that her puppies would not end up in a shelter like those other dogs. No breeder can be sure that one of their puppies will not end up in a shelter or being re-homed. It happens to the purebred Yorkies and the designer dogs.

Yes it does and so should it anyone who cares about dogs "purebred" or not. If this is your thinking then no one would breed and no dogs would be around at all, no one can see into the future. We are not going to agree so will not be posting any more re this

I been feeling for a bit now that breeders are not appreciated here, so sad, I love helping dogs and sometimes that means I have to guide the human so the dog can get the help, I don't care what breed or breeds, to me every dog is important.
I am going to start coming here less, because I feel that my guidance is loss in the judgments and arguments..
hugs.
Carmen in nj

Responsible breeders are always welcome here and you know it. No one said a thing about your wanting to help if help was needed. This person was not looking for help she was announcing her pending litter. I have NEVER made a negative comment to any dog owner really looking for help with a pregnancy or a puppy. My comment was only about this OP's insistence that her litters would not end up in a shelter. If you choose to not come here because of that then it is the forums loss and certainly unwarranted.

The above poster implies that I would prefer there were no breeders when that is far from the truth. I have had purebred dogs all my life so obviously I have nothing against responsible breeders, but people who choose to get offended will read things into a comment that were never there. I had no intention of even posting on this thread until misinformation about shelter dogs started getting tossed around.

No! That's not true! I've learned so much from breeders on this forum...and that includes YOU. I vowed I would never reply to a controversial thread. But here I go...

I'm sure there are many people viewing this thread who have chosen not to reply with an opinion. That includes me. Just because I've chosen not to voice my opinion, doesn't mean that I don't appreciate (and don't learn from) what's being written. I think it's good to hear both sides of a situation. I think many people can sympathize with both sides, weigh the good & the bad, and LEARN. Personally, I appreciate hearing different views. I'd like to think that there are other people like me out there.

It's the passion of this forum that has kept be coming back multiple times a day. Whether I agree with where the passion is directed, or disagree, is up to me to decide. But I will tell you this - I LEARN something from just about every thread I read - whether I reply or not.

So don't go anywhere. Please ;)

Carmen I haven't been a member nearly as long as some but I have seen many wonderful helpful breeder leave because of this same thing I hope you won't join them we love you here. I have read so many times when you, yorkiemom1, and other wonderful breeders have spent countless hours helping a litter survive. God bless you for this. You are truly appreciated here.

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Because so many people read this site that is why it is so important to make sure all the facts are out there.

Carmen you are not a back yard breeder, puppy mill or greeder and I don't think anyone has said anything about you that I have seen. I think you are amazing and have great knowledge I even have pmed a few time with the post i thought needed you insight. I also have said if I get another baby (dog) it will be a silky and from you :D I think all breeders should be like you.

A lot of breeders have left just because they get tired of people who come here and blow there advise off

Good breeders who are taking every step that they can make sure healthy puppies are going to be born and are keeping the breed how it should be are much much different then breeders who don't do that.

Ladies is NOT about me, is about the DOGS, do you think that the dogs know they are being bred by me or by a BYB? no they don't, and if anyone comes here looking for ANY advise and with help and patience we can help and maybe even change their minds then our job is done! but if we keep the criticism, the judgments, and the name calling then what are we doing? who are we helping? I love helping and I don't think that the way some people go here is the right way.. I know passions run high because we all love animals, but I don't think that being negative every time the word breeder is thrown around is the way to approach this time when the life of a dog and her babies is on the line, and so what If she came to brag about her litter, if nobody posts then she will stop bragging, because she will not answer to her own posts..
just my two cents..
hugs,

I am confused....... This person didn't need any help and as far as I'm concerned educating can save dogs too. Someone else may read this thread and go wow I didn't know all this info I don't think I should breed or I think I should look more into it or I should do it right. What you do by helping them is just as important as what those of us trying to educate are doing. This board comes up when pretty much every thing about yorkies is googled so it is important that as many facts and info is out there as possible. Asking people who love this breed and these little dogs to just sit back is not say a thing when people are doing things that are wrong is not right and doesn't help these poor dogs whose owners want to breed them when they shouldn't be for different reasons.

When I first joined YT it was not all the negative posts about me breeding that I got that changed my mind it was the very informative information I got from the breeders here that did that. Yes I needed to know about puppy mills but I also needed to know that so much went into breeding. It doesn't take a true yorkie lover long to realize that they love these little ones and don't want to put them in danger. If someone has their mind set on breeding as the op seems to then it doesn't do us any good to argue with them. We can state our opinions and leave it at that. Truthfully I think anyone googling that wants to breed would take their side if all they read were the arguements and not the great advise from great breeders who take time out of their busy days to help all us novices. God bless.

Are we to take a whats done is done attitude here and shut up? Really, this is a forum about the Yorkie, the good the bad and the ugly...to sit back and pretend or not advocate until the whole world hears is unrealistic and just because someone is "conversing" and one doesn't agree with it doesn't mean I have to be quiet...no where in that post did I see anything about the OP asking for anything, she started a debate and everyone has a right to state their opinion. I'm not on YT debating religion or politics I'm on YORKIE TALK talking about YORKIES, who happen to be dogs that are often times being bred by byb's, greeders etc., just because its been said on page 152 of the General Discussion doesn't mean it shouldn't be said over and over again. Every opportunity to discuss is a good time to discuss it. Its also good that the breeders help and give their knowlege and input, etc., it is needed, it is often heeded, there is room for everyone on this forum, yes it will always be us, them and THEM...its just the way it is.

I regulary help abused kids and their abused parent, am I not to continue to advocate on their behalf?..I think of my dogs and people as extremely important, I will until the day I can't do it anymore advocate, for the children and abused women, seniors, and animals...over and over again...I will not stop because THEY NEED US, yes it will always happen but I'm never going to sit back and pretend it is not and I will never give up...

I am one of those members reading this, listening to the different opinions, having questions but afraid to post for fear of getting jumped on... but here goes. There are some definite strong opinions here. I completely understand the need to breed a healthy dog, one that has been checked out by a vet and without genetic defects, and one with a good temperament. I keep hearing the phrase "for the betterment of the breed" mentioned. I have heard some say breeds should not be crossed. And the op dogs were called mutts. So is it those member's opinions that in a perfect world, there should only be specific breeds and it is always wrong to cross breeds even if you follow all the other protocol about health and temperament and are breeding for families who are not interested in a registered breed because they only want a pet?