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01-06-2013, 07:09 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Choudrant, LA, USA
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| Invisible fence?? We normally carry our 6 month old female out on a leash. Our yard is not fenced. Twice lately she has slipped out and started running like crazy back and forth over 1 1/2 acres ignoring us completely. Ordinarily she comes when I shake her treat box. It was like we were not even there. Finally a neighbor came and called her and she came to her immediately. She loves all people. I am concerned for her safety. Has anyone ever used an electronic collar or an invisible fence? |
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01-07-2013, 03:19 AM | #2 |
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| I don't think it would be good for a yorkie especially a smaller one as the collars have huge battery packs on them.
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01-07-2013, 03:35 AM | #3 |
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| I agree. I wouldn't use either on a toy breed. I've seen what happens to a lab when they have malfunctioned and I wouldn't want that on a small dog. If I were you I would get an ex-pen that you keep set up to place her in to potty that's what I do w my two!
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01-07-2013, 04:06 AM | #4 |
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| I am new to YT. However, I have been reading a lot of information. I do not think it is wise to use an invisible fence/electronic collar. You can look on youtube for videos that show people testing out the electronic collars on themselves before placing it on their dog and the shock looks very painful. In addition, please keep in mind that the invisible fence does not protect your precious dog from animals being able to get into your yard. I am sure you always keep an eye on your dog though. |
01-07-2013, 05:30 AM | #5 |
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| I'd get a better fitting harness. My Biewer slipped out of hers twice while on walks. First I bought a Buddy Belt, and she even slipped out of that. So now I have it quite snug to foil her Houdini acts.
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01-07-2013, 05:36 AM | #6 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Choudrant, LA, USA
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| Thanks for the answer re the fence. I guess it was a two part question. When she slips out the door past my elderely husband and runs wild ignoring us completely I fear that she will get in the street. Someone suggested spaying her might help. I plan to do that soon. Maybe we are too old for a high spirited yorkie. We love this little dog. Another question does anyone let their yorkied sleep with them? |
01-07-2013, 06:47 AM | #7 |
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| I used to have invisible fence with my golden retriever. He was 100 lbs. I've accidentally zapped myself on his collar several times and let me tell you it REALLY shocked me. I would never use invisible fence on Columbo both because of his size and his personality. I think it could possibly hurt him physically, but definitely would hurt him emotionally. He'd be cowering and shaking and really traumatized. Yorkies are tough little guys, but they are also fragile emotionally. Also, the collars have to be tight to keep the prongs in contact with the neck. Even the smallest prongs would hurt or even puncture a yorkie's neck. They definitely wouldn't be comfortable for him. The transmitter on the collar would also be large for a yorkie. Even the smallest ones. I definitely recommend against using invisible fence on a yorkie. If I am working in the yard and want Columbo with me, but can't constantly be chasing him, I set up his x-pen so I know where he is. I agree with the other posters about finding a better fitting harness. There are lots of good ones out there and different styles. I think you find one that can't be slipped out of so easily. Last edited by bobohyde; 01-07-2013 at 06:50 AM. |
01-07-2013, 07:21 AM | #8 |
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| Trainer Victoria Stilwell said on her show that research indicates that shock devices have negative effects on dogs' health, particularly their heart and nervous systems. Makes sense to me. My boys are runners, so I put up baby gates and an xpen to keep them from darting out the doors.
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01-07-2013, 07:50 AM | #9 |
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| Yorkie's love to run. Bailey can just go flat out when we play. Lucky for us, he doesn't take off very often if at all. He will run if he sees someone coming which isn't common. We harness for walks. Our harness is pretty substantial (don't know the brand) so it's never a thought of him getting out. You may want to look for a better harness system. As for owner's age, I think Yorkie's bring a lot to your life regardless of age. If it gets to the point where you can no longer care for the dog, that's different. Also, consider some training if you haven't already. That may help temper the running off thing. As for sleeping with you, everyone is different. We kept Bailey in his bed in the kitchen area for a long time. One night a few weeks ago, we had friends staying over and they were going to come in late and through the kitchen. We knew he'd have to sleep with us. Now he always sleeps with us. Took a few nights for everyone to find their positions, but it works fine. |
01-07-2013, 08:12 AM | #10 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | One of the things to do it to train the pup to sit when you get to the door. Not until give her a release command can she move from that stop. So when your husband walks out the door he won't bolt. Also for now you can get a gate or a ex pen to block her off from the door. Good luck
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01-07-2013, 08:30 AM | #11 |
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| I personally would never use a shocking or vibrating device on my dog's neck or throat. In your situation I would use a very long leash and well-fitting harness for potty sessions. If you are a good trainer, perhaps you can teach your dog not to run or even venture out of the yard. If you do it incrementally and don't ever really trust the dog (as he is a dog and subject to do anything) but teach him to stay in his yard, it can be a huge help. My dog is trained not to leave his front yard and though he's gotten out of the backyard twice and been on his own in the great outdoors, he never left the front yard. And he was a dart-darting runner when I got him, claustrophobic, wild, crate-crazy and the slightest thing caused him to bolt. And I do mean bolt from 0 to zoom is a heartbeat! But I wouldn't use the shocking or spraying in the face with scents and things as those kinds of things on the Yorkie or other very small dogs as they may tend to make your dog reactive and fearful of the unknown. Some become very anxious thinking that at any time and for whatever reason they may get an unsettling sensation or a burst of spray in the face. At first they may associate it with going out of the yard boundary but in time, some just become nervous wrecks, thinking the sudden unpleasantness could happen any moment or just when they run or walk about any time. Some think small dogs with smaller brains don't associate these shocking or spray devices with what triggers them off such as leaving a yard boundary as well as bigger dogs and tend to just become unsure, nervous of it happening any time after using it a while. Because they can't come to those conclusions as easily, the smaller dog tends more to develop nervous or shock reactions to sudden, unbidden stresses. While a Yorkie trains well for so many things and is a very smart dog, they, like other small dogs, don't routinely have the capacity for training, association and logic that a larger GSD, Border Collie, Golden or Lab and that is one reason they aren't used more often in the first responder services or in many public service jobs. Talk to any person who trains dogs for these services in the military or protection service and they will very quickly tell you that. It's not just size and frailty that prevents the smaller dogs from these types of services.
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01-07-2013, 09:24 AM | #12 |
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| I have a wireless fence I used many years ago for a brief time for a 120+ lb Shep/Lab mix...who was extremely well trained before he was allowed outside in the wireless fence alone anyway. I would never turn it back on for my Yorkies...ever. I can see no reason for even considering using such a device for a Yorkie, not least which is because I will never allow mine to be outside without a human with them. A 6-month-old puppy is likely going to be excitable and likely to run because it is still so young. I think you are saying that the puppy 'escapes' by accident, but that is where I stop the running wild behavior. Prior to opening the door...for any reason, I put their harnesses on...a harness that fits properly...and attach a lead. In this way, my Yorkies lack the ability to free-run...or be in danger. Mine get harnesses and leads even if it is only FedEx or UPS who knocked and went back to their truck after leaving a package at the door. Anyone at the door can just wait a few seconds while my babies get dressed. Both of my Yorkies will be 3 years old in March, but both also believe they "own" their little "corner of the universe" and will bolt and run toward anyone walking or biking past the house, cows on the other side of the fence, cars driving by that have windows down and voices can be heard...clearly others have failed to obtain the proper Yorkie passage permission... I know I could never catch either of my Yorkies if they were to run at full speed...even when I was a kid and could run really fast, I doubt I could have done it. Oh, and my Yorkies DO allow us to share our bed with them... Good luck, congratulations, and welcome!
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01-07-2013, 10:25 AM | #13 |
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| An electronic fence is not made for small dogs and the shock could permanently hurt them. I do suggest you put the collar on and let it shock you. These fences will not prevent people from coming in and stealing or hurting your dog and animals who see your dog as a meal from coming in. I suggest a lot of training and possibly a baby gate or play pen around the door until you get her 100% trained. Most dogs will also take the shock to get to what they want but not take the shock to get back in the yard.
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