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12-31-2012, 01:15 PM | #16 |
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| I have no clue but what an interesting question. I know from what you have posted in the past, you are not looking to put your dogs through pain to save a few dollars but understandably don't want to put them under if it can be done without. I certainly am not put under to have my teeth cleaned and that's mostly what we are talking about here. As for pulling the baby teeth, my son was in the dentists chair with a loose baby tooth and the dentist asked him if he wanted him to pull it. My son said no (he was little) and the vet just pulled it anyway. It's was almost out. My son was so shocked but it didn't hurt.... I am interested to hear how you descale your dogs teeth? This is a concern of mine because I have one or two that really should have their teeth cleaned and will be soon....and what do you use in their water that helps? |
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12-31-2012, 01:59 PM | #17 |
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12-31-2012, 09:22 PM | #18 | |
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I feel very strongly about my dogs dental care, and I wouldn't have a problem putting him under. I feel safer with him going under then putting him through a traumatic experience (and yes, for him, it would be SUPER scary. He does not even like the vet touching him, without freaking out and trying to climb up my body, lol). It's a lot different for humans. Most get teeth cleaned w/o anesthesia because we have the capability to understand they're not TRYING to hurt us. Dogs don't understand that concept. It's why young kids are often given laughing gas, for the same reason.
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01-01-2013, 11:00 AM | #19 |
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| 2/3 of the tooth is under the gum line. That means that without full X-rays and a through exam you cannot get to all of the issues. However once the dog is anesthetized, the vet can do a through exam including checking all the teeth and gum pockets. So even without xrays, you can uncover a lot of problems. Scaling without anesthesia is not only unsafe, it is of no medical benefit and therefore IMO is a waste of money. My daisy has more problems than I can count, she is high risk. She has done very well. She's certainly not the oldest or sickest dog undergoing routine Dentals at our clinic. I think there is too much hype about anesthesia risks. Hardly any dogs die from gas anesthetics. As for older drugs, I can't say, but the new agents and protocols which presumably you would seek out are safe.
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01-01-2013, 11:02 AM | #20 |
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| Also descaling teeth at home will cause more tartar to build faster and promote decay to the tooth.
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01-02-2013, 12:15 AM | #21 |
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| When I was doing my practicum, I saw something very traumatic for me. A wire fox terrier was in for whatever reason. They brought him to the back room where I was, and I watched while the technicians literally broke off the tarter on the dogs molars with a pair of pliers. Yes, the dog fought them, and yes, his mouth ended up bleeding, and yes, this was common practice for them. No, it was not a regular dentistry visit. Now, I consider myself pretty immune to being shocked. Having done pit bull rescue, I am well aware what kind of cruelty ignorance breeds... But these were trained professionals, and to this day I am appalled by their actions. If you do not want to put your dog completely under, I would find out of there is a sedative that can be used to take the edge off. But IF you are doing a full dental, I would have the dog put under. The tools being used are the same tools used on people, and if nothing else, the high pitched screaming of the sonic scaler could freak the dog out. Plus is there a lot of precision work involved going under the gum line, which can be painful.
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01-02-2013, 08:31 AM | #22 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Thanks every one for your opinions - it is appreciated. I did go to the website posted and was surprised to find only one diplomate here in all of Toronto. I will check in with my vet next wellness exam. See who he refers me to.
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01-02-2013, 08:45 AM | #23 |
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| We initially saw a diplomat in Boston. He moved, but the two other vet dentists we've seen here are not diplomats but they limit their practice to dentistry and that's all they do all day long. So perhaps your vet can recommend someone like that as well.
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01-02-2013, 11:09 AM | #24 |
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| I didn't read everyone's post, but I'll share my experience... Momo's tartar wasn't too bad, it was mostly on his back upper molars. One vet said I can wait to do the dental cleaning & the other vet said do it asap...he just got his cleaned 2 weeks ago & they had to pull 3 molars. So, it's impossible to tell by just looking @ the teeth, they need to go under & do a thorough cleaning under the gums.
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