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lainacohen · 12-27-2012, 09:42 PM

Hi Everyone,

I got my pup, Winnie, about a month ago. She is actually a mix, Yorkie and Jack Russell though her tendencies and look seem to be going with the Yorkie. I have been following this site since the first day I got her and it has been rather helpful so I figured registering would be a good idea.

As of recently I have been losing my mind with her. It seems as though she takes one step forward and two steps back as far as training goes. From potty training to obedience. My biggest battle being her coming to me especially when she knows she has done something wrong, she will run hide and try and start a game of it.

... Good thing she's adorable.

GuinnessStout · 12-27-2012, 10:27 PM

You did not state her age.... Thinking that might be a key here but I could be wrong because mine never listens to me either

lainacohen · 12-27-2012, 10:34 PM

My apologies, she is a pup. 12 weeks old as of December 23rd, I have had her since 9 weeks.

yorkiemini · 12-28-2012, 07:57 AM

Sure they are smart. If they know they are in trouble they usually run away and hid. Trick is never all them to you and punish or fuss at them. Call them to you and when they come give a treat. Then they look forward to coming to you .
Good luck.

Deb1 · 12-28-2012, 08:12 AM

When Teeka went through this stage of running away and making it a game, I became so frustrated with her! Instead of chasing her around to get her to come to me, I played a different game. I would call her in a happy sing-song voice then clap my hands to get her attention. When she would come when called I would play with her immediately as a reward! She now comes when called and I still clap and she now expects to get a little play time, too! Yorkie pups love and thrive on positive attention. Good luck!

Lovetodream88 · 12-28-2012, 08:18 AM

Yorkies can be stubborn. Potty training can take months you just need to be patient. Give her a treat when she goes in the right place and tell her no when you catch her going in the wrong place and take her where you want her to potty. Don't call her to you if you are going to punish her and that even means calling her to you to say no because she will not want to come to you ever. Try getting her to come to you buy using a treat and saying come Winnie. Don't case her or it will become a game. Puppies are a lot of work and require A LOT of patients remember they don't know anything you have to teach it to them. Good luck and congrats on your pup.

Teresa Ford · 12-28-2012, 08:36 AM

RULE # 1 Never call your dog to you, to punish them.
Recall is the most important thing you can teach your dog. Good Training is the best investment you can ever make in your dog. A good book
can teach you, how to start the basic training every puppy needs. I suggest these two,
1000 Best Dog Training Secrets by Robyn Achey and Bill Gorton
and Dog Perfect by Sarah Hodgson
I am so glad you found us. Welcome to Yorkie Talk it is a wonderful resource.

Harrysmum · 12-28-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkiemini

Sure they are smart. If they know they are in trouble they usually run away and hid. Trick is never all them to you and punish or fuss at them. Call them to you and when they come give a treat. Then they look forward to coming to you .
Good luck.

Exactly

And I also think, to a certain extent, Jack Russell and Yorkie temperaments are quite similar - both very tenacious, know their own minds - and think they can get away with blue murder....

Patience, consistency, treat for the good (either food or toy!)....good luck, and a big welcome from the UK!

Sally + Harry

x

gracielove · 12-28-2012, 02:06 PM

Of course they will run if they think they are in trouble. Calling a dog to you has to be on a reward system. You cannot speak loudly to a dog and expect it to come for punishment. Positive reinforcement is the best policy. Don't pay so much attention to what she does wrong as you do to what she does right. When she gets it right give her a healthy treat and lots of praise.

You have a combination of two very energetic breeds. The Jack Russell is an almost non stop energy little dog! You need to invest in some long exercise sessions for your little one or that dog is going to run you up a wall with it's antics. If it is penned up for hours while you are gone you need to take it out and give it a good brisk long walk or let it run for a while. These dogs want to be doing things. They need to run off the energy frequently.

Princess keke · 12-28-2012, 02:21 PM

This post is funny to me because I was so irritated with Honey for the same reason's. As I started talking to more yorkie owners they told me it normally takes a full year if not a little longer to get the potty trained. Also when Honey does something wrong she will go hide under the couch until she thinks I'm not mad anymore. It really does take alot of patients because Honey is 8 months and still don't tell me every time she has to go. Oh and if you get you furbaby potty trained at 12 weeks me and Honey will come to you so you can teach her lol. Good luck

lainacohen · 12-28-2012, 02:42 PM

She is potty trained as far as peeing goes. If she doesnt go outside she goes on her pee pad. Pooping is the hard part but even when she poops inside she does it right in front of the door, so she knows she has to do it outside. Every now and then she has a bad day but in all honesty she is as house broken as I could ever expect for a puppy.

The obedience is the hardest, I cant seem to figure out how to show her she is doing something wrong because she hides if she does. Last night was the worst, she hide under my bed so I couldnt get at her and she just barked at me until 3 am. I am confident she knows how cute she is and uses it to her advantage. She is also a HORRIBLE biter. Its not vicious, I can tell its just play but no matter what I do I cant break the habit. I have tried giving her her toys instead, I have tried putting her on her back and saying no.

I am also positive that she thinks she is the pack leader, she does a lot of things that in my mind are domaince. She likes to crawl up me so that she is standing on my shoulder, she also likes to attack my face when I am sleeping and she wants attention.

tjdmom · 12-28-2012, 03:17 PM

A 12 week old puppy is just like a toddler. You certainly wouldn't be upset with a human child if they had an accident. In fact, most parents make a really big deal out of going in the potty. We clap and say "yay" and make sure we tell daddy when he gets home what a great job baby did going in the potty and we don't mention the mistakes at all. When your toddler has to go potty, they have to go NOW and if they don't make it, it should be no big deal, right? And that's exactly what your puppy should be experiencing. When she has to go, she needs to go NOW and it's your job to watch for the signals. If she has an accident, guess who's fault it is? Not hers. She only wants to please you so lots of very yummy treats for appropriate potting. I would make up something really special like turkey bacon or liver, none of those store bought things but figure out which is her favorite and reserve that for going potty in the right place. And when she goes in the right place, not only does she get lots of great treats but a party with clapping and petting and telling her what a great job she did! For now, just ignore mistakes... And also continue way past the point where you think she gets it because at first it will be to get a yummy treat but eventually it will become a habit so make sure you follow this routine until it does in fact become a habit.

Lovetodream88 · 12-28-2012, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lainacohen

She is potty trained as far as peeing goes. If she doesnt go outside she goes on her pee pad. Pooping is the hard part but even when she poops inside she does it right in front of the door, so she knows she has to do it outside. Every now and then she has a bad day but in all honesty she is as house broken as I could ever expect for a puppy.

The obedience is the hardest, I cant seem to figure out how to show her she is doing something wrong because she hides if she does. Last night was the worst, she hide under my bed so I couldnt get at her and she just barked at me until 3 am. I am confident she knows how cute she is and uses it to her advantage. She is also a HORRIBLE biter. Its not vicious, I can tell its just play but no matter what I do I cant break the habit. I have tried giving her her toys instead, I have tried putting her on her back and saying no.

I am also positive that she thinks she is the pack leader, she does a lot of things that in my mind are domaince. She likes to crawl up me so that she is standing on my shoulder, she also likes to attack my face when I am sleeping and she wants attention.

When a pup leaves there mom before 12 weeks old they tend to have biting issues and potty training issues. For obedience I would take a puppy class once she has all her shots. Also for biting what I did was squirt Callie with a water bottle and say no and that worked very well. Remember never to yell at the pup or she will hide. When your sleeping sense she can't be watched it is best to keep her in a play pen or a crate because she could get into something and hurt herself or even fall off the bed.

SophieKatesMom · 12-28-2012, 07:25 PM

WOW!! This thread makes me miss those puppy days, I remember Sophie Kate grabbing my pant leg while I was putting them on and me hopping around on one foot saying "leave it" to her.

12 weeks is so young for a puppy, I didn't get Sophie Kate until she was 16 weeks and I can tell you there was a lot of puppy energy. The things that really saved me was teaching her new things (to come, to chase a ball, to sit the command for "leave it"). As mentioned once your babies have had all their shots get them enrolled in a puppy class. Also teaching them to walk on a leash even while in the house is beneficial and once they are cleared for outdoor walks take them (my Sophie Kate still loves her walks).

Potty Training was so hard for us, we tried everything but we stuck with crate training and working her on a schedule (we still potty on a schedule). One of the important things I learned was to teach her a command for going potty (ours is exactly that "Go Potty"). Also when your baby does go in the right place make a HUGE BIG deal out of it, lots of praise and a special good dog treat like Cheerio's.

Good luck and cherish those puppy moments, they go by so fast.

Gweebarr · 12-28-2012, 07:53 PM

It makes me feel so much better.. We going to the same thing.... Backwards... I thought we almost had potty training down...but lately Aphrodite decided when we go outside ... Doing everything else but going potty... She goes inside ... Next to the pad...and she looks straight at me , with her head to the Tilt....Like asking me .. Did I do good? When I try to pick her up , like you all say she rans and hide.....making me feel guilty!! For disturbing her!!!

12-27-2012, 09:42 PM	#1
lainacohen Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cleveland Posts: 126	Newbie losing her mind Hi Everyone, I got my pup, Winnie, about a month ago. She is actually a mix, Yorkie and Jack Russell though her tendencies and look seem to be going with the Yorkie. I have been following this site since the first day I got her and it has been rather helpful so I figured registering would be a good idea. As of recently I have been losing my mind with her. It seems as though she takes one step forward and two steps back as far as training goes. From potty training to obedience. My biggest battle being her coming to me especially when she knows she has done something wrong, she will run hide and try and start a game of it. ... Good thing she's adorable.

12-27-2012, 10:27 PM	#2
GuinnessStout Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 4,289	You did not state her age.... Thinking that might be a key here but I could be wrong because mine never listens to me either __________________ Alisha mommy to Guinness Stout 7 & Stella Artois 5 & Teagan 4 Guinness & Stella proud Teapot Club Members

12-28-2012, 07:57 AM	#4
yorkiemini Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 4,285	Sure they are smart. If they know they are in trouble they usually run away and hid. Trick is never all them to you and punish or fuss at them. Call them to you and when they come give a treat. Then they look forward to coming to you . Good luck. __________________ . Cali , and Cali's keeper and staff, Jay No, not a "mini" Yorkie - She loves to motor in her Mini Cooper car

12-28-2012, 08:12 AM	#5
Deb1 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,983 Blog Entries: 3	When Teeka went through this stage of running away and making it a game, I became so frustrated with her! Instead of chasing her around to get her to come to me, I played a different game. I would call her in a happy sing-song voice then clap my hands to get her attention. When she would come when called I would play with her immediately as a reward! She now comes when called and I still clap and she now expects to get a little play time, too! Yorkie pups love and thrive on positive attention. Good luck! __________________ Proud Mommy to Max, Teeka, Tatiana and forever in my heart Tameka! My sunshine doesn't come from the skies, it comes from my puppies eyes!

12-28-2012, 08:18 AM	#6
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,247	Yorkies can be stubborn. Potty training can take months you just need to be patient. Give her a treat when she goes in the right place and tell her no when you catch her going in the wrong place and take her where you want her to potty. Don't call her to you if you are going to punish her and that even means calling her to you to say no because she will not want to come to you ever. Try getting her to come to you buy using a treat and saying come Winnie. Don't case her or it will become a game. Puppies are a lot of work and require A LOT of patients remember they don't know anything you have to teach it to them. Good luck and congrats on your pup. __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

12-27-2012, 10:34 PM	#3
lainacohen Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cleveland Posts: 126	My apologies, she is a pup. 12 weeks old as of December 23rd, I have had her since 9 weeks.

12-28-2012, 08:36 AM	#7
Teresa Ford Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida Posts: 3,863	RULE # 1 Never call your dog to you, to punish them. Recall is the most important thing you can teach your dog. Good Training is the best investment you can ever make in your dog. A good book can teach you, how to start the basic training every puppy needs. I suggest these two, 1000 Best Dog Training Secrets by Robyn Achey and Bill Gorton and Dog Perfect by Sarah Hodgson I am so glad you found us. Welcome to Yorkie Talk it is a wonderful resource. __________________ Teresa & Rubin, Gracie, Abba, Ginny Joy and Julia Rose Act like a dog, be kind, forgiving, and loyal. Last edited by Teresa Ford; 12-28-2012 at 08:37 AM.

12-28-2012, 02:06 PM	#9
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	Of course they will run if they think they are in trouble. Calling a dog to you has to be on a reward system. You cannot speak loudly to a dog and expect it to come for punishment. Positive reinforcement is the best policy. Don't pay so much attention to what she does wrong as you do to what she does right. When she gets it right give her a healthy treat and lots of praise. You have a combination of two very energetic breeds. The Jack Russell is an almost non stop energy little dog! You need to invest in some long exercise sessions for your little one or that dog is going to run you up a wall with it's antics. If it is penned up for hours while you are gone you need to take it out and give it a good brisk long walk or let it run for a while. These dogs want to be doing things. They need to run off the energy frequently.

12-28-2012, 02:21 PM	#10
Princess keke YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 536 Blog Entries: 1	This post is funny to me because I was so irritated with Honey for the same reason's. As I started talking to more yorkie owners they told me it normally takes a full year if not a little longer to get the potty trained. Also when Honey does something wrong she will go hide under the couch until she thinks I'm not mad anymore. It really does take alot of patients because Honey is 8 months and still don't tell me every time she has to go. Oh and if you get you furbaby potty trained at 12 weeks me and Honey will come to you so you can teach her lol. Good luck

12-28-2012, 02:42 PM	#11
lainacohen Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cleveland Posts: 126	She is potty trained as far as peeing goes. If she doesnt go outside she goes on her pee pad. Pooping is the hard part but even when she poops inside she does it right in front of the door, so she knows she has to do it outside. Every now and then she has a bad day but in all honesty she is as house broken as I could ever expect for a puppy. The obedience is the hardest, I cant seem to figure out how to show her she is doing something wrong because she hides if she does. Last night was the worst, she hide under my bed so I couldnt get at her and she just barked at me until 3 am. I am confident she knows how cute she is and uses it to her advantage. She is also a HORRIBLE biter. Its not vicious, I can tell its just play but no matter what I do I cant break the habit. I have tried giving her her toys instead, I have tried putting her on her back and saying no. I am also positive that she thinks she is the pack leader, she does a lot of things that in my mind are domaince. She likes to crawl up me so that she is standing on my shoulder, she also likes to attack my face when I am sleeping and she wants attention.

12-28-2012, 03:17 PM	#12
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 5,847	A 12 week old puppy is just like a toddler. You certainly wouldn't be upset with a human child if they had an accident. In fact, most parents make a really big deal out of going in the potty. We clap and say "yay" and make sure we tell daddy when he gets home what a great job baby did going in the potty and we don't mention the mistakes at all. When your toddler has to go potty, they have to go NOW and if they don't make it, it should be no big deal, right? And that's exactly what your puppy should be experiencing. When she has to go, she needs to go NOW and it's your job to watch for the signals. If she has an accident, guess who's fault it is? Not hers. She only wants to please you so lots of very yummy treats for appropriate potting. I would make up something really special like turkey bacon or liver, none of those store bought things but figure out which is her favorite and reserve that for going potty in the right place. And when she goes in the right place, not only does she get lots of great treats but a party with clapping and petting and telling her what a great job she did! For now, just ignore mistakes... And also continue way past the point where you think she gets it because at first it will be to get a yummy treat but eventually it will become a habit so make sure you follow this routine until it does in fact become a habit.

12-28-2012, 07:25 PM	#14
SophieKatesMom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 3,242	WOW!! This thread makes me miss those puppy days, I remember Sophie Kate grabbing my pant leg while I was putting them on and me hopping around on one foot saying "leave it" to her. 12 weeks is so young for a puppy, I didn't get Sophie Kate until she was 16 weeks and I can tell you there was a lot of puppy energy. The things that really saved me was teaching her new things (to come, to chase a ball, to sit the command for "leave it"). As mentioned once your babies have had all their shots get them enrolled in a puppy class. Also teaching them to walk on a leash even while in the house is beneficial and once they are cleared for outdoor walks take them (my Sophie Kate still loves her walks). Potty Training was so hard for us, we tried everything but we stuck with crate training and working her on a schedule (we still potty on a schedule). One of the important things I learned was to teach her a command for going potty (ours is exactly that "Go Potty"). Also when your baby does go in the right place make a HUGE BIG deal out of it, lots of praise and a special good dog treat like Cheerio's. Good luck and cherish those puppy moments, they go by so fast. __________________ Cheryl,Mom to SophieKate

12-28-2012, 07:53 PM	#15
Gweebarr Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Lawton ,ok,Comanche Posts: 25 Blog Entries: 1	It makes me feel so much better.. We going to the same thing.... Backwards... I thought we almost had potty training down...but lately Aphrodite decided when we go outside ... Doing everything else but going potty... She goes inside ... Next to the pad...and she looks straight at me , with her head to the Tilt....Like asking me .. Did I do good? When I try to pick her up , like you all say she rans and hide.....making me feel guilty!! For disturbing her!!!