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Old 12-16-2005, 11:31 AM   #31
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Thanks for all of the tips, I really appreciate it. And I just ignore negative people, I'm not June Cleaver and I don't pretend to be. They aren't healthy. I spend about 8-10 hours a day with Lucy and I think that is a lot of time for a 20 year old to give an animal. I sprayed bitter apple on cords and stuff that she was chewing but she kept chewing on it anyway! That was a couple weeks ago now and after my consistent "no"s she has practically forgotten the cords were there. I have tried the hold her mouth shut thing and this works only momentarily for me. Since I spend so much time with her, I have all this time to thinkup ideas so i tried growling at her like I imagine a mom dog would do and this has seemed to work sometimes. I also always see pictures of wolves and dogs with the younger ones snout snuck in the others mouth, so I have tried this too, which I guess is along the lines of biting, but I don't bite down on her. I am just relieved to know it is all because of teething! I was worried that she was turning into a mean dog. I am going to try freezing the cloth with chicken broth. I also have a bunch of socks that are missing their mate so I am gonna knot those up and give them to her to chew also. Oh, I have also tried the yelping thing and this works pretty good but only when she is play chewing. Thanks again for everything, yorkietalk is a life saver!
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Chloe is 23 months and can still be a little monster when she wants to be. Sometimes when I'm sitting down with her she will lick and give kisses then out of no where she will start snapping at me. When she bites my hands she gets a firm "no" and maybe a light smack on the bum, and if she snaps at anyones face we put her in her "time out" corner and make her stay there for five minutes or until she decides to be nice again.
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You'll be fine. You just have to find what works for you. I like tug of war with those socks! The best time we have is when I'm on one end of a rope or bunch of socks tied together and she's on the other end and we're running through the house! I've done that with now my fifth little doggie. None of them were mean in any way, either.
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do any of you guys have kids...the 5pm-9pm hour is called the bewitching hour! I guess its the same for puppies....as we say with our children....and this too shall pass......
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From 6pm-9pm when Sammi was little she was the TINY TERROR TERRIER!! She would bite and bite...She was teething...She will grow out of this phase Now Sammi is 2 and LOVES TO SLEEP!! LOL!!
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What is with the negativity? She came on here asking for advice. Sounds to me like she's been very patient. She's done all the things she's read to do and maybe even some I haven't heard of. If she lets this get out of control, then there would be people that criticize her for letting it go too far before trying to correct it. It's not like she came and told us she beat the poor puppy and now doesn't know what to do! Ignore the criticism Sarah, I think you've done the right thing by coming here to get advice. I can't really help you though in this area because Tatum really didn't do that. She did go through a chewing phase but only on one little piece of furniture. She stopped after being corrected but I think it was a teething issue. Hope you can find what you need from the helpful people on here. Good luck.
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After re-reading the original post it doesn't really sound like a teething problem. I mean she's not just mouthing your hand and biting down too hard, she's attacking. I frequently deal with dogs that bite when being groomed. Some dogs bite no matter what you do but puppies that bite are usually testing the limits to see what they can get away with. It the puppy bit another dog and caused pain the other dog would snarl, bark or bite back and the puppy would learn that it can't get away with that behavior. On the grooming table here's what we do. It a puppy tries to bite we immediately grab his head or face, get really close and yell no or stop it or whatever. The puppy is usually so shocked he will just kinda freeze. Then we immediately praise the puppy for being calm and go back to what we are doing. Sometimes it takes a few times but almost always the puppy stops trying to bite and will just stand there (often wagging his tail). Also it is very important to not stay mad at the puppy. Only sound mad at the actual moment you are disciplining him. The instant he behaves praise him and be calm. You can't stay mad at him (even if you really are) because he will not remember why you are mad.
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I have not read what the others have posted so this may repeat a little.
I find that if I read others posts on being tough I get cross and loose what I need to said to quote and debate them. So if I am repeating thing sorry.

1. Submission training is no no! It is an attack on your dog that is rude and is of old school training. You want them to join up with you, as they want to not cause it the only way not to get roughed up.
Stop and Think for a second if someone pushed you to the ground and said no in your face that was bigger and stronger then you. What you feel? Ok so that what she is feeling.

2. Find yourself a behaviorist or an aggression trainer as she got issues. I think so fear aggression for starter. I say a few others but that to little to go on for sure.

3. Dogs playtime is usually morning and evening, you’re asking her to be still in her busy time.

4. She may just not be a cuddler, try having her walk instead of being carried.

5. Get her mind working with tricks and make her do them for her supper and treats.

6. Do not mistake stern for control. I am calm with my girl never a yell or a swat, just a calm redirection to something right. I catch her doing and being good and reward the good. The more they get that good get treats the more they try and do good.

7. Bite control is missing- No is not going to get it in place.

8. Obedience class can come to her get a trainer in.

9. PM me I have a great list of aggression in dogs books.

You never said how old she is I am assuming a puppy.
A little gem I was told when I found out my girl is aggressive or should I say when I admitted she was.
This is treatable Everyone thinks dogs are full-grown at one.
Try physically at one, socially at two and mentally at three. If she little you have a ton of time to fix this and have a long happy life. One of the leading reasons dogs are turn in to pounds is peeing in the house and biting both can be fixed.
Also some of the smartest dogs there are, are bored aggressive dogs and when their mind starts working for good watch out it is fun to watch.

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I have not read what the others have posted so this may repeat a little.
I find that if I read others posts on being tough I get cross and loose what I need to said to quote and debate them. So if I am repeating thing sorry.

1. Submission training is no no! It is an attack on your dog that is rude and is of old school training. You want them to join up with you, as they want to not cause it the only way not to get roughed up.
Stop and Think for a second if someone pushed you to the ground and said no in your face that was bigger and stronger then you. What you feel? Ok so that what she is feeling.

2. Find yourself a behaviorist or an aggression trainer as she got issues. I think so fear aggression for starter. I say a few others but that to little to go on for sure.

3. Dogs playtime is usually morning and evening, you’re asking her to be still in her busy time.

4. She may just not be a cuddler, try having her walk instead of being carried.

5. Get her mind working with tricks and make her do them for her supper and treats.

6. Do not mistake stern for control. I am calm with my girl never a yell or a swat, just a calm redirection to something right. I catch her doing and being good and reward the good. The more they get that good get treats the more they try and do good.

7. Bite control is missing- No is not going to get it in place.

8. Obedience class can come to her get a trainer in.

9. PM me I have a great list of aggression in dogs books.

You never said how old she is I am assuming a puppy.
A little gem I was told when I found out my girl is aggressive or should I say when I admitted she was.
This is treatable Everyone thinks dogs are full-grown at one.
Try physically at one, socially at two and mentally at three. If she little you have a ton of time to fix this and have a long happy life. One of the leading reasons dogs are turn in to pounds is peeing in the house and biting both can be fixed.
Also some of the smartest dogs there are, are bored aggressive dogs and when their mind starts working for good watch out it is fun to watch.

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Putting a dog in a submissive position might be old school but it worked for my yorkie that bites when he has something and you try to take it away fom him. My husband flipped him over into a submissive position on his back and told him no and he hasnt tried to bite again. Maybe this just worked for my dog but I think the person who gave that advise didnt necessarily give bad advise either. I agree that some dogs need to see a behavioralist but owners also need something immediate that they can do to control the behavior.
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Quoting chachi
"Putting a dog in a submissive position might be old school but it worked for my yorkie that bites when he has something and you try to take it away fom him. My husband flipped him over into a submissive position on his back and told him no and he hasnt tried to bite again. Maybe this just worked for my dog but I think the person who gave that advise didnt necessarily give bad advise either. I agree that some dogs need to see a behavioralist but owners also need something immediate that they can do to control the behavior."

Might does not make right.
Violence begets Violence or in most cases some form of aggression.
As You notice before my name was JMO it Is just that My thoughts, Take it or leave. I did not say anyone gave bad advice. How could I until now I have not read it as I do not read others on training advice unless I ask for the help with a question of my own.
How do you intend someone to learn if they do not see someone with the training to give a qualified knowledgeable opinion.
Not sure what your qualifications are but I know mine.
Feathers only get ruffled when others are not sure of that which they speak as I am sure I tend not to read others in the training questions area and also do not tend to get ruffled as much anymore in this area.

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Just wanted to let you all know that Lucy has been VERY good the rest of the week. Maybe she figured out that Santa will be on his way, lol. My vet told me to do the submissive position, but I think I may be doing it differently than everyone else. I put her on her back several times throughout the day and then give her kisses. Now she likes me to hold her like a baby when she sleeps on me. When she is getting out of control and squirmy, it is just easier to place her on her back until she calms down instead of letting her squirm right out of my arms and possibly hurt herself. I just thought I would let you know that your tips are working!
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rocky is 6 months old and takes a nap everyday around 5 for an hour or so. i think by then they are tired just like kids. try the crate and see if he falls asleep or just let him alone so he can sleep. this might help! my human kids used to nap at 5 too!michelle
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All I can say is she's a Yorkie. haha They have serious attitude. Just keep establishing your authority. She'll get the picture eventually. Be sure to give her lots of love and praise and treats when she does good things though! That gives her to incentive to be good for you all the time! Good luck!
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Putting a dog in a submissive position might be old school but it worked for my yorkie that bites when he has something and you try to take it away fom him. My husband flipped him over into a submissive position on his back and told him no and he hasnt tried to bite again. Maybe this just worked for my dog but I think the person who gave that advise didnt necessarily give bad advise either. I agree that some dogs need to see a behavioralist but owners also need something immediate that they can do to control the behavior.
I agree with you. The dog will test your limits and patience. They're testing their boundaries and you need to take back those boundaries. Otherwise, you're going to end up with a dog that you can no longer handle. You also need to remember that what works with one dog may not work with another.
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"Putting a dog in a submissive position might be old school but it worked for my yorkie that bites when he has something and you try to take it away fom him. My husband flipped him over into a submissive position on his back and told him no and he hasnt tried to bite again. Maybe this just worked for my dog but I think the person who gave that advise didnt necessarily give bad advise either. I agree that some dogs need to see a behavioralist but owners also need something immediate that they can do to control the behavior."

Might does not make right.
Violence begets Violence or in most cases some form of aggression.
As You notice before my name was JMO it Is just that My thoughts, Take it or leave. I did not say anyone gave bad advice. How could I until now I have not read it as I do not read others on training advice unless I ask for the help with a question of my own.
How do you intend someone to learn if they do not see someone with the training to give a qualified knowledgeable opinion.
Not sure what your qualifications are but I know mine.
Feathers only get ruffled when others are not sure of that which they speak as I am sure I tend not to read others in the training questions area and also do not tend to get ruffled as much anymore in this area.

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Geez talk about ruffling feathers I must have ruffled yours. I was in no way attacking the advice you gave just letting you know that putting my dog in a submissive position worked for me. As for my qualifications I am just a pet owner like everyone else who listens to all ideas on how to solve a problem Thank you very much!!
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