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kjc · 10-31-2012, 08:42 AM

Her symptoms are the same as those of liver toxicity... I'd get her on Denamarin (liver support) ASAP, stop the ABs and the sedative... Many drugs are processed thru the liver.... and sorry, but I'd take her somewhere that knows what they're doing! And I'd do it now!

JMHO

MI Yorkielover · 10-31-2012, 08:48 AM

I am so sorry. Sending prayers for Brandi and you.

CouversMom · 10-31-2012, 08:56 AM

I am so sorry... I'm glad you are getting her the care she needs. Brandi will be in my thoughts...

marlenemaria · 10-31-2012, 09:04 AM

Praying all turns out well, I would stop the antibiotic right away and take her to another vet!

Please keep us posted on her she is doing.

kjc · 10-31-2012, 09:36 AM

Here's a link:

Emergency Services 24/7

yavenay · 10-31-2012, 10:00 AM

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I am back home and she was able to eat but I am concern that she hasn't poop yet. She hasn't had a bowel movement since Monday she has eaten twice since Monday.

She is urinating okay. I looked up what Liver Toxicity and will ask for a liver panel when she goes to her vet appointment. She doesn't want me anywhere near her butt so I think she can't poop. She doesn't want to sit down or when she does sitt her butt is slighlty elevated. She doesn't want her butt to touch the floor. She's okay laying down, it's just sitting down that she doesn't want to do.

GuinnessStout · 10-31-2012, 10:13 AM

I wonder if trying a little mashed pumpkin either alone or with food would help or hurt since it is a natural dog laxative.

Verbena · 10-31-2012, 10:16 AM

I am sorry to hear. Good thoughts are going out to you

lisaly · 10-31-2012, 10:37 AM

I'm so sorry. I also think the medication could be making her worse. When Ashley was on Buprenex for pain, it really affected her. I had to give it to because I didn't want her in pain, but she got even more clingy, and she moaned a great deal. Once I was able to take her off of it, she always did much better. Ashley suffered from dementia the last year of her life and passed away a month before her seventeen birthday. If you have questions or need my help, please let me know.

kjc · 10-31-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by yavenay

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I am back home and she was able to eat but I am concern that she hasn't poop yet. She hasn't had a bowel movement since Monday she has eaten twice since Monday.

She is urinating okay. I looked up what Liver Toxicity and will ask for a liver panel when she goes to her vet appointment. She doesn't want me anywhere near her butt so I think she can't poop. She doesn't want to sit down or when she does sitt her butt is slighlty elevated. She doesn't want her butt to touch the floor. She's okay laying down, it's just sitting down that she doesn't want to do.

Her anal glands are probably bothering her again... which can cause them not to eat as much or at all.

I would really have her seen asap, seems I can't stress this enough. The blindness also comes from the toxicity. If she's not seen soon, her organs may start to shut down....

GeorgiesMomma · 10-31-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kjc

Her anal glands are probably bothering her again... which can cause them not to eat as much or at all.

I would really have her seen asap, seems I can't stress this enough. The blindness also comes from the toxicity. If she's not seen soon, her organs may start to shut down....

Definitely have her anal glands checked. Also agree about having her checked ASAP. I am sorry sweet Brandi is having issues.

Just throwing this out there (from experience)....some Vet's are conservative and don't want to spend your money. I would reassure them to take all measures to get to the bottom of the issues Brandi is having.

MidnightUnicorn · 10-31-2012, 11:06 AM

This is very saddening.

I hope Brandi gets better soon.

yavenay · 10-31-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kjc

Her anal glands are probably bothering her again... which can cause them not to eat as much or at all.

I would really have her seen asap, seems I can't stress this enough. The blindness also comes from the toxicity. If she's not seen soon, her organs may start to shut down....

She just had her anals express at her annual checkup about two weeks ago. I really think the emergency vet was wrong about the blindess. I took her outside for walk and she can see in at least one eye. She may only can see partially out of her right eye. Most of her symptoms have subsided. She is not pacing back and forth any longer or drooling. She actually has perked up a little bit. I didn't give her any of her medication. I am really beginning to believe she had a reaction to the antibiotic.

The reason I am skeptical about the emergency vet is because he basically only took her vital signs which he said were good. He did no other testing and I don't think he even took into consideration the meds she had just started. She does have another appointment with a specialist tommorrow. I will monitored her behavior. If she starts to exhibit the same behavior, I will take her to a different emergency hospital.

The cost so far for everything is approaching 1100.00. This is including her annual visit, follow up visits, her eye treatments, her uti meds as well as blood, stool and urinalysis and meds for her right eye. Her appointment tommorrow is 210.00 which doesn't include any additional testing and her emergency visit last night was 182.00. All of this in two weeks.

I am aware of seriousness of her health issues. That is is why I left work early and will be working from home tommorrow up until it's time for her appointment. Her appointment is at 3:00pm. I am monitoring her behavior and can respond quickly if anything starts to go wrong again. I don't want to seem like money is an issue but if I can avoid paying for the same thing twice, I rather wait to go see the specialist.

GuinnessStout · 10-31-2012, 01:02 PM

I have been reding since I have nothing better to do at work today and I knew pure puree pumpkin would help a dog "go" and everything I am seeing says it is also good in diets for dogs with liver disease in small amounts (Guinness gets a quarter size drop of organic pumpkin baby food a day for his IBS). So maybe trying that to help her "go" and push out the toxics faster might be a good idea.

gracielove · 10-31-2012, 01:07 PM

You know I would never advise anyone to stop a medication if I didn't think it was really important. My son's dog acted much like yours before the seizures started. They thought it was the fever but it was the medication. When I think how close we were to losing Bear and what he went through it is just very upsetting.
Hopefully, you stopped it soon enough. The vets never picked up on it Bear's problem. I guess it is some what unexpected for them? I don't know but I think it is a shame when a pet owner has to do their own investigation to find out what is killing their dog. Please don't give her anymore of the medication. If the vet still feels she needs an antibiotic then insist that they give her something else. Maybe think about giving her some time to recover before starting a new med if at all possible.

10-31-2012, 08:42 AM	#16
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,872	Her symptoms are the same as those of liver toxicity... I'd get her on Denamarin (liver support) ASAP, stop the ABs and the sedative... Many drugs are processed thru the liver.... and sorry, but I'd take her somewhere that knows what they're doing! And I'd do it now! JMHO __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

10-31-2012, 08:48 AM	#17
MI Yorkielover Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 3,317	I am so sorry. Sending prayers for Brandi and you. __________________ Jackie Loves Sophie R.I.P ."Baby"* our little girl 1993-2009*

10-31-2012, 08:56 AM	#18
CouversMom and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 14,732	I am so sorry... I'm glad you are getting her the care she needs. Brandi will be in my thoughts... __________________ Michelle- mommy to Couver and Khloe Mae! http://yorkiehavenrescue.com/

10-31-2012, 09:04 AM	#19
marlenemaria YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami, florida USA Posts: 475	Praying all turns out well, I would stop the antibiotic right away and take her to another vet! Please keep us posted on her she is doing. __________________ Happily owned by my lil lils Last edited by marlenemaria; 10-31-2012 at 09:05 AM.

10-31-2012, 09:36 AM	#20
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,872	Here's a link: Emergency Services 24/7 __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

10-31-2012, 10:00 AM	#21
yavenay Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 2,663	Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I am back home and she was able to eat but I am concern that she hasn't poop yet. She hasn't had a bowel movement since Monday she has eaten twice since Monday. She is urinating okay. I looked up what Liver Toxicity and will ask for a liver panel when she goes to her vet appointment. She doesn't want me anywhere near her butt so I think she can't poop. She doesn't want to sit down or when she does sitt her butt is slighlty elevated. She doesn't want her butt to touch the floor. She's okay laying down, it's just sitting down that she doesn't want to do.

10-31-2012, 10:13 AM	#22
GuinnessStout Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 4,289	I wonder if trying a little mashed pumpkin either alone or with food would help or hurt since it is a natural dog laxative. __________________ Alisha mommy to Guinness Stout 7 & Stella Artois 5 & Teagan 4 Guinness & Stella proud Teapot Club Members

10-31-2012, 10:16 AM	#23
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	I am sorry to hear. Good thoughts are going out to you

10-31-2012, 10:37 AM	#24
lisaly Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,892	I'm so sorry. I also think the medication could be making her worse. When Ashley was on Buprenex for pain, it really affected her. I had to give it to because I didn't want her in pain, but she got even more clingy, and she moaned a great deal. Once I was able to take her off of it, she always did much better. Ashley suffered from dementia the last year of her life and passed away a month before her seventeen birthday. If you have questions or need my help, please let me know.

10-31-2012, 11:06 AM	#27
MidnightUnicorn YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 443	This is very saddening. I hope Brandi gets better soon.

10-31-2012, 01:02 PM	#29
GuinnessStout Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 4,289	I have been reding since I have nothing better to do at work today and I knew pure puree pumpkin would help a dog "go" and everything I am seeing says it is also good in diets for dogs with liver disease in small amounts (Guinness gets a quarter size drop of organic pumpkin baby food a day for his IBS). So maybe trying that to help her "go" and push out the toxics faster might be a good idea. __________________ Alisha mommy to Guinness Stout 7 & Stella Artois 5 & Teagan 4 Guinness & Stella proud Teapot Club Members

10-31-2012, 01:07 PM	#30
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	You know I would never advise anyone to stop a medication if I didn't think it was really important. My son's dog acted much like yours before the seizures started. They thought it was the fever but it was the medication. When I think how close we were to losing Bear and what he went through it is just very upsetting. Hopefully, you stopped it soon enough. The vets never picked up on it Bear's problem. I guess it is some what unexpected for them? I don't know but I think it is a shame when a pet owner has to do their own investigation to find out what is killing their dog. Please don't give her anymore of the medication. If the vet still feels she needs an antibiotic then insist that they give her something else. Maybe think about giving her some time to recover before starting a new med if at all possible.