*****Pitbull Attack On My Son's Dog Stopped-Finally!!!*****

[Teresa Ford]

I read this with my heart pounding. I am so glad your son and the other professionals were there and that both dogs survived with minimal injuries.
I only work with puppies and toy breeds. I had to admit I do not have the physical stamina to control large dogs. I was attacked by a Doby that had been abused. It was all I could do to protect my face. He knocked me down and being on the ground is a big disadvantage to regaining control. I was very blessed, that a strong and quick thinking trainer was working a dog near my area. He was able to net the dog and remove him. A trainer should be able to keep the dogs and people she/ he is working with safe. If you are not a professional don't work with dogs that are dangerous. If you are a professional know and admit your limits. Thanks for sharing this story.

[kjc]

This was the manuver that Cesar Milan was blasted for on TV.

We also used it at the vet's, on very rare occasions and only if all else failed and it was deemed people or pets' lives were in danger.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

I read this with my heart pounding. I am so glad your son and the other professionals were there and that both dogs survived with minimal injuries.
I only work with puppies and toy breeds. I had to admit I do not have the physical stamina to control large dogs. I was attacked by a Doby that had been abused. It was all I could do to protect my face. He knocked me down and being on the ground is a big disadvantage to regaining control. I was very blessed, that a strong and quick thinking trainer was working a dog near my area. He was able to net the dog and remove him. A trainer should be able to keep the dogs and people she/ he is working with safe. If you are not a professional don't work with dogs that are dangerous. If you are a professional know and admit your limits. Thanks for sharing this story.

Good grief, Teresa! That was a terribly close call. Thank goodness someone who knew big dogs could and did help. No telling what your injuries could have been if your plight had been unnoticed. I'm glad you are okay and here to keep helping dogs and people with your immense knowledge of dogs & training! I remember in the "old days" when so many Dobies were bred to be vicious, there were many awful stories associated with that breed! And movies made about them and how bad they were! But thankfully, that beautiful breed got turned around, though like any dog, almost any dog can go postal, given the right circumstances.

kjc, I didn't know Cesar Millan had done something like that but, IMO, when another animal or person is in danger and all else fails, that technique is warranted and probably always pretty effective.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I completely understand how some feel about this breed and all potential buyers should(but don't) understand unless you get one from a breeder who has carefully bred for gentle temperament for decades, one could be getting a ticking time bomb. But as a breed, it is not the dogs' fault. When you have one in rescue, you are always on your guard around them but as a family pet, people let their guards down and that is when tragedy can occur.

Expecting one not to act a lot like Tex' attacker is kind of like expecting a terrier not to chase a mouse across the barn floor. It goes against the very grain for many of the Bullys to let go of a bite until its victim is subdued and that trait was just not in that breed along with serious viciousness until irresponsible breeders began selective breeding of highly dominant/aggressive, stubborn, never-give-in Bulldog types to vicious-natured, super-aggressive Bullys for generations to create a fighter who could either quickly disable or outlast others in the pit. And to keep their fighters "pure", they would kill any dog that lost a match to avoid it passing along its DNA to their dogs or sell/trade/gift it. Even though "losers" that were allowed to live might be weaker or less aggressive dogs themselves, vicious genes still lived within and could be passed along to another generation in breeding, as the public soon found out.

I used to feel like you do until I began studying what makes the breed the way they are now and it is such a troubling story of exploitation and abuse by mankind it can sicken. If they do legislate the breed out of general existence, it won't stop the underground crowd from still breeding and fighting them; and the super-aggressive gene pool that will be left will be more appalling than the horrible ones we have now! Inevitably, some of those will make their way into the public sphere to be bred with a Lab, GSD or Rottie, so Pits will still passing along those killer type genes to other known biting breeds and create another similar but different-looking killer "breed". Some line-breeding of those for a while and we have another "breed" that also kills and maims.

Knowing what I know, though I love the Pitbull type and sweeter dogs were never born, I couldn't have a Bully in my home to live as a pet unless I could guarantee a long, long lineage of breeding for temperament and I would never keep smaller animals with one and closely supervise while children, others around.

You said it far better than I ever could. Bullies are just another example of man's exploitation of animals. Just as the Yorkie is being taken advantage of and ruined by unscrupulous breeders so is the Pit Bull. They were used to guard children in England decades ago. Now that they have become a power symbol to dog fighters and people who need an ego boost they have been exploited to the hilt. It is criminal. These people have created a horrible problem for the general public. Of course the uneducated general public is prone to buy a Bully from an unscrupulous breeder just as often as they buy Yorkies from people who exploit the breed.

[ironmike86]

Originally Posted by gemy

Mike get a well bred and temperament tested BRT. They are usually not prey driven. They were bred to protect humans! And over time they will protect your Moki from any predator. Actually pack dynamics start pretty quickly as evidenced on our gals week vacation. A Rottie mix, jumped out of the bushes to "attack" two of"our " new pack's Yorkies which were leading our pack on a walk. They our pack had been together exactly 2.5 days. The Rottie had obviously not seen Magic as he was behind about 10 paces the Yorkies. Magic surged forward with his very deep threat bark. It was a tense moment, thankfully the Yorkies obeyed Ilona's come command and hightailed it out of there. The Rottie decided against pursuing any more aggression. TAil tucked he ran out from the road. If Magic had not been there those Yorkies would have been in serious trouble!. And I am very happy that Rottie retreated, as the very last thing I would want is a dog fight. It would break my heart to see any dog injured.

Thats what I tell myself also. But it only takes one bite from a big dog. I really want one. Moki has attitude. He's a prey drive dog. When I finally make up my mind I will look for a good breeder who breeds temperament and get the pack drive puppy. Thats what i want a dog to protect my dog... or watch for Coyotes on the other side of the fence ... Only for the minute I maynot be looking. Thanks for the post