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ilovejoel · 10-08-2012, 10:23 PM

As hard as it is to believe, my sweet little Joel is acting up.
He's doing some things that I told myself I never would let my yorkie do

One thing I've noticed him starting to do is if he thinks someones yelling at me or being mean he'll run at them, not biting or barking but I feel like that will lead to that and being too protective of me. I'm not sure if I should scold him or the person he runs at should scold him.

He also tries to be the boss of things, and Rosco. If Rosco goes up to anything he jumps up and gets between Rosco and the object. I thought I was being strict but I'm just worried.
So what are some tips and things I should do to show i'm the boss and also that Rosco is higher than him.
I've started feeding Rosco first and giving him treats without Joel. And what should I do when he tries to take Rosco treats......gate him up or stay there and tell him leave it.
Sorry it's so long, Any help is appreciated

rubymoon2072 · 10-09-2012, 07:47 AM

i agree with Rosco getting everything first. with the treats i make Lola wait. shes very impatient and is always trying to rip off Cedrics treat. i just make her wait and if she doesnt then i skip her and then she gets it. its a continuous cycle with her though. as for the others i am not so sure. if cedric is acting in a way in which i dissapprove i remove him for the situation or take something away if he is being naughty. i hope on the others someone will chime in. good luck.

lovespandp · 10-09-2012, 07:53 AM

Hmm I have no advise for you, but just wanted to say I hope you can find a solution!! Hopefully Joel will get out of this little rebel stage soon...

Peanut just had some strange rebel outburst- He was on the couch with DH, DH was eating a burrito- Peanut kinda lunged at him to take a bite, DH pushed him back... apparently Peanut didn't like that and lunged back at DH and Peanut growled at him!!

Peanut has never done anything like that before!!

LILBIT1 · 10-09-2012, 07:55 AM

LOL Sounds like Joel has BDS Big Dog Syndrome. All jokes aside, my yorkie protects me ((or so she thinks shh) If the kids are fighting she can become fairy upset. Someone walks up to car while were out and about LOOK OUT. She is the only dog in the house so we dont have the sharing or me first problems. When Waffles behaves poorly I give her "that look" and click at her once with my tongue. She drops head and sits down with a pittiful look looking up at me in shame lol

LILBIT1 · 10-09-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Hmm I have no advise for you, but just wanted to say I hope you can find a solution!! Hopefully Joel will get out of this little rebel stage soon...

Peanut just had some strange rebel outburst- He was on the couch with DH, DH was eating a burrito- Peanut kinda lunged at him to take a bite, DH pushed him back... apparently Peanut didn't like that and lunged back at DH and Peanut growled at him!!

Peanut has never done anything like that before!!

Haha!! Sorry i know its not really funny. (but it kinda is) or im in a very weird mood!

lovespandp · 10-09-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LILBIT1

Haha!! Sorry i know its not really funny. (but it kinda is) or im in a very weird mood!

LOL I think its pretty funny myself!! LOL!! These little dogs think they are big bosses!

Cherie6446 · 10-09-2012, 08:28 AM

Zoey thinks she is everyones boss. For a while she would run behind my husband and nip at his pants if he got up and walked away. I told him to make her stop that immediately and it did work but she still barks everytime he gets up from the chair. I just keep telling her to shush when she barks her disapproval. She does boss around Jackson who is more than twice her size but he is a docile guy. I am interested in whatever any of you have tried to do to stop this bossiness.

ilovejoel · 10-09-2012, 09:02 AM

Thanks for the tips

What I planned on doing is when he does ANYTHING not nice I would just put him in a room by himself for a while which is the most effective with him and he'll catch on, but the problem is when he knows i'm gonna get him he obviously keeps running so I feel like once I catch him he doesn't know what he did, but I think he gets it.

lovespandp · 10-09-2012, 09:06 AM

I think when he does something you do not agree with you have to correct him then and there. Just tell him NO in a serious tone. Taking him away from the issue isn't going to help- I don't think anyways..

ilovejoel · 10-09-2012, 06:46 PM

Ok thanks, I gave him alot of extra praise today, and I noticed he was better today

Im also working on the Nothing in Life is free thing.

Teresa Ford · 10-10-2012, 09:46 AM

Guarding Behavior
I don't know if you ever watched Victoria the trainer on TV, but we use the same method to stop guarding behavior. You should be the one to correct her. If you are sitting when she goes on guard, put her on the floor immediately with a firm word cue like 'NO', 'Enough', or 'Stop It.' Use the same word cue every time. If you are standing or walking, put your self between her and the person she is barking/ charging at and if possible make eye contact with her and give the word cue you have chosen firmly. It is ok to clap, stomp a foot, or point at her when you give the cue word if that feels natural to you. I am so glad you are taking charge and changing this behavior before it escalates into a real nipping / guarding problem. If you need more suggestions feel free to PM me. Hope this helps, T

JoeyP · 10-10-2012, 11:18 AM

Haha ... you have a little tyrant in the making there

Word of warning tho ... you might be laughing now and think its cute but this is a possession and a heirarchy problem that can lead in some cases to aggrssive behavior
I need to ask when he "Runs" at someone .... is he leashed and you hold him back? Is he lunging to Bite?
If he is that is already aggression and needs to be addressed immediately
As for your other dog and them getting along
be careful about the always feeding first thing.... that might set up even more competition
What I do with my two dogs is always feed them together but never let them take food away from the other
same thing is when ever you play with one .... you play with the other so your little tyrant will get the idea ... hey... when ever the other dog is around I get good things

ilovejoel · 10-10-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyP

Haha ... you have a little tyrant in the making there

Word of warning tho ... you might be laughing now and think its cute but this is a possession and a heirarchy problem that can lead in some cases to aggrssive behavior
I need to ask when he "Runs" at someone .... is he leashed and you hold him back? Is he lunging to Bite?
If he is that is already aggression and needs to be addressed immediately
As for your other dog and them getting along
be careful about the always feeding first thing.... that might set up even more competition
What I do with my two dogs is always feed them together but never let them take food away from the other
same thing is when ever you play with one .... you play with the other so your little tyrant will get the idea ... hey... when ever the other dog is around I get good things

When he runs at someone its only in the house and if he thinks someone is yelling or being mean to me he'll run at them like "hey what are you doing to my mom"
And if I call one of the kids to me he'll run in front of them and jump up on them so they can't get to me. What I did today was got some treats and called the kids to me and then handed them a treat to give to Joel so he'll learn when I call a kid he gets a treat, so I'm working on that.
Also when he doesn't want Rosco getting something he kinda snaps at him and I say "No" loudly and he does stop. I thought Rosco would put him in his place but he doesnt care when Joel is mean to him, lol

yorkietalkjilly · 10-10-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

Guarding Behavior
I don't know if you ever watched Victoria the trainer on TV, but we use the same method to stop guarding behavior. You should be the one to correct her. If you are sitting when she goes on guard, put her on the floor immediately with a firm word cue like 'NO', 'Enough', or 'Stop It.' Use the same word cue every time. If you are standing or walking, put your self between her and the person she is barking/ charging at and if possible make eye contact with her and give the word cue you have chosen firmly. It is ok to clap, stomp a foot, or point at her when you give the cue word if that feels natural to you. I am so glad you are taking charge and changing this behavior before it escalates into a real nipping / guarding problem. If you need more suggestions feel free to PM me. Hope this helps, T

Agree with Teresa.

You are the one who has the say about how people or other animals behave around you and not your dogs - even precious little Joel. Disagree with unwanted behavior in the manner described and re-establish your leadership with little Joel. I would read up on the Nothing In Life Is Free methods of establishing leadership with a dog on Google and start using those if disagreeing with him doesn't work, though usually it does. Dogs with strong leaders usually don't do this kind of thing unless another dog is suddenly barking or aggressing toward their owner, then some may react out of habit. But a strong leader just has to point at them or say "No"/Enough"/"Uh Oh" to their dog & it will back off, letting the leader handle the situation. Most but not all dogs go through a phase or two like this and there are others about in the house.

ilovejoel · 10-10-2012, 12:32 PM

Thanks for the help guys

Im going to put it to work now

I think another reason is that were together too much(if thats possible

) aaaaall the time....seriously all the time since day one, and he follows me.....everywhere! And when I am gone he doesn't know what to do.
The best way to describe him right now is a jock in highschool thats mean to people, but for some reason people still like him, lol
Other than that, he is a good boy!

10-08-2012, 10:23 PM	#1
ilovejoel Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 3,299	Need some Tips for Joel As hard as it is to believe, my sweet little Joel is acting up. He's doing some things that I told myself I never would let my yorkie do One thing I've noticed him starting to do is if he thinks someones yelling at me or being mean he'll run at them, not biting or barking but I feel like that will lead to that and being too protective of me. I'm not sure if I should scold him or the person he runs at should scold him. He also tries to be the boss of things, and Rosco. If Rosco goes up to anything he jumps up and gets between Rosco and the object. I thought I was being strict but I'm just worried. So what are some tips and things I should do to show i'm the boss and also that Rosco is higher than him. I've started feeding Rosco first and giving him treats without Joel. And what should I do when he tries to take Rosco treats......gate him up or stay there and tell him leave it. Sorry it's so long, Any help is appreciated __________________ ℜachael JoelRoxy iLoveJoely.com

10-09-2012, 07:47 AM	#2
rubymoon2072 Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA Posts: 9,209	i agree with Rosco getting everything first. with the treats i make Lola wait. shes very impatient and is always trying to rip off Cedrics treat. i just make her wait and if she doesnt then i skip her and then she gets it. its a continuous cycle with her though. as for the others i am not so sure. if cedric is acting in a way in which i dissapprove i remove him for the situation or take something away if he is being naughty. i hope on the others someone will chime in. good luck. __________________ Cedric N Lola N Keylo RIP Punkee Princess

10-09-2012, 07:53 AM	#3
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	Hmm I have no advise for you, but just wanted to say I hope you can find a solution!! Hopefully Joel will get out of this little rebel stage soon... Peanut just had some strange rebel outburst- He was on the couch with DH, DH was eating a burrito- Peanut kinda lunged at him to take a bite, DH pushed him back... apparently Peanut didn't like that and lunged back at DH and Peanut growled at him!! Peanut has never done anything like that before!! __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

10-09-2012, 07:55 AM	#4
LILBIT1 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Riverside County, Ca Posts: 867 Blog Entries: 9	LOL Sounds like Joel has BDS Big Dog Syndrome. All jokes aside, my yorkie protects me ((or so she thinks shh) If the kids are fighting she can become fairy upset. Someone walks up to car while were out and about LOOK OUT. She is the only dog in the house so we dont have the sharing or me first problems. When Waffles behaves poorly I give her "that look" and click at her once with my tongue. She drops head and sits down with a pittiful look looking up at me in shame lol __________________ http://instagram.com/wafflesthewonderdog/ https://www.facebook.com/wafflesthewonderdog Kathy Waffles

10-09-2012, 08:28 AM	#7
Cherie6446 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SoCA Posts: 1,895	Zoey thinks she is everyones boss. For a while she would run behind my husband and nip at his pants if he got up and walked away. I told him to make her stop that immediately and it did work but she still barks everytime he gets up from the chair. I just keep telling her to shush when she barks her disapproval. She does boss around Jackson who is more than twice her size but he is a docile guy. I am interested in whatever any of you have tried to do to stop this bossiness. __________________ RIP my darling little Gina

10-09-2012, 09:02 AM	#8
ilovejoel Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 3,299	Thanks for the tips What I planned on doing is when he does ANYTHING not nice I would just put him in a room by himself for a while which is the most effective with him and he'll catch on, but the problem is when he knows i'm gonna get him he obviously keeps running so I feel like once I catch him he doesn't know what he did, but I think he gets it. __________________ ℜachael JoelRoxy iLoveJoely.com

10-09-2012, 09:06 AM	#9
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	I think when he does something you do not agree with you have to correct him then and there. Just tell him NO in a serious tone. Taking him away from the issue isn't going to help- I don't think anyways.. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

10-09-2012, 06:46 PM	#10
ilovejoel Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 3,299	Ok thanks, I gave him alot of extra praise today, and I noticed he was better today Im also working on the Nothing in Life is free thing. __________________ ℜachael JoelRoxy iLoveJoely.com

10-10-2012, 09:46 AM	#11
Teresa Ford Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida Posts: 3,863	Guarding Behavior I don't know if you ever watched Victoria the trainer on TV, but we use the same method to stop guarding behavior. You should be the one to correct her. If you are sitting when she goes on guard, put her on the floor immediately with a firm word cue like 'NO', 'Enough', or 'Stop It.' Use the same word cue every time. If you are standing or walking, put your self between her and the person she is barking/ charging at and if possible make eye contact with her and give the word cue you have chosen firmly. It is ok to clap, stomp a foot, or point at her when you give the cue word if that feels natural to you. I am so glad you are taking charge and changing this behavior before it escalates into a real nipping / guarding problem. If you need more suggestions feel free to PM me. Hope this helps, T __________________ Teresa & Rubin, Gracie, Abba, Ginny Joy and Julia Rose Act like a dog, be kind, forgiving, and loyal.

10-10-2012, 11:18 AM	#12
JoeyP YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami, FL,USA Posts: 1,005	Haha ... you have a little tyrant in the making there Word of warning tho ... you might be laughing now and think its cute but this is a possession and a heirarchy problem that can lead in some cases to aggrssive behavior I need to ask when he "Runs" at someone .... is he leashed and you hold him back? Is he lunging to Bite? If he is that is already aggression and needs to be addressed immediately As for your other dog and them getting along be careful about the always feeding first thing.... that might set up even more competition What I do with my two dogs is always feed them together but never let them take food away from the other same thing is when ever you play with one .... you play with the other so your little tyrant will get the idea ... hey... when ever the other dog is around I get good things __________________ Mike and Zach's Dadd

10-10-2012, 12:32 PM	#15
ilovejoel Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alaska Posts: 3,299	Thanks for the help guys Im going to put it to work now I think another reason is that were together too much(if thats possible ) aaaaall the time....seriously all the time since day one, and he follows me.....everywhere! And when I am gone he doesn't know what to do. The best way to describe him right now is a jock in highschool thats mean to people, but for some reason people still like him, lol Other than that, he is a good boy! __________________ ℜachael JoelRoxy iLoveJoely.com