Originally Posted by shelimcallister (Post 3891501)

Very well said and I agree that most of the critisim I have seen is mostly because of one's passion for Yorkies. However, not everyone is capable of wording their advice so well (like you;)). It can be challenging to to write a post with an opposing opinion or view without sounding rude. Without the verbal intonation present, one's post could be perceived as harsh.

As a newbie, I have already noticed that there are many questions posted repeatedly (eg. "Is it a full breed?", "What food?"", "Breeder problems"). I assume that some of the frustration from the seasoned YTers could be due to the lack of effort of Yorkie owners to do their research. Many Yters have made mistakes and have dedicated their lives to stopping puppy mills and preserving the Yorkie breed. Over time, it is expected that one would become jaded. However, I do agree that we need to be respectful to one another and encourage others to educate the world on these issues.

Great thread and post!:D

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3891490)

This is the most civilized I've ever seen one of these kindness threads; usually they turn into huge fights! Good job ladies, we can debate and have differences, while still respecting others opinions.

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3891709)

Give it time Nancy.... it's still early !! :D

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3891490)

This is the most civilized I've ever seen one of these kindness threads; usually they turn into huge fights! Good job ladies, we can debate and have differences, while still respecting others opinions.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3891711)

Seriously, I think this has been a great thread, people have not denied being rude, but have explained why they are sometimes, and I think that helps others be more understanding of a touch a rudeness now and then.

Originally Posted by Tayluvheryorkie (Post 3891931)

IMHO, It is all about the tone.. Direct or not, The tone in a persons message stands out.

The tone in a lot of the messages here are often condensing. I do way more reading than I do posting here for that reason alone. A lot of the time I am here reading a thread, and say to myself "Wow that was harsh". To be honest, I just have accepted it as the way everything is here, So before I ask a questions I go back years and research posts. The information is great here the other mess is just drama.

Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 3890483)

I wanted to post this to try and make some understand how people feel who come here and read about what they should and should not of done when purchasing their new puppy after the fact. I will state my experience hope it helps. When I was younger we had poms for pets and were very fortunate to have been sent to a show breeder who pampered them to get our babies...later many years later, I lost my father, closed my salon and all in a few months time and I was very lonely. My children suggested a yorkie and we started looking and asking. Noone we talked to could recommend anyone so there was sigh,,, the internet. That is how we found Laddy. I had never experienced a puppy mill before but when we drove 3 hours to pick him up I knew where he was raised was just wrongggggg. That being said I held this tiny sickly little guy in my arms and my hubby said he wasnt sure we should take him as he looked weak but I just knew he would die if I didnt. Some of you will say this was "enabling " the puppy mill owners and maybe it was to save his life but it was done from my heart. Fast forward....we bring Laddy home and the first night he won't eat or drink and is lethargic. You can find my paniced threads on here after I searched and searched on what to do for him and found YT. Thankfully back then people were not so judgemental and helped me get him over the hump and to a beautiful healthy dog. I did try to put a stop to the place who sold him to me but nothing worked as they are still in business. And yes laddy was only 9 weeks old when I brought him home I had no idea he should be older. I have said all this to say that if had been treated bad when I asked for help I dont know if I would of ever came back to YT again. I thoroughly enjoy all I learn here and that would of been a shame. Yes we all want honesty but sometimes a dose of kindness with it goes a very long way :). Anyway all my YT friends I love this place and just had to get this off my chest as I have gotten a couple pms from new people who thanked me for being kind and were very hurt at the responses they had recieved from others. Not to say I have always been kind, i have reread some of my responses and have spanked myself over the way I worded them also. God bless everyone hope this helps us all to try to educate with kindness.:)

Originally Posted by shelimcallister (Post 3891501)

Very well said and I agree that most of the critisim I have seen is mostly because of one's passion for Yorkies. However, not everyone is capable of wording their advice so well (like you;)). It can be challenging to to write a post with an opposing opinion or view without sounding rude. Without the verbal intonation present, one's post could be perceived as harsh.

As a newbie, I have already noticed that there are many questions posted repeatedly (eg. "Is it a full breed?", "What food?"", "Breeder problems"). I assume that some of the frustration from the seasoned YTers could be due to the lack of effort of Yorkie owners to do their research. Many Yters have made mistakes and have dedicated their lives to stopping puppy mills and preserving the Yorkie breed. Over time, it is expected that one would become jaded. However, I do agree that we need to be respectful to one another and encourage others to educate the world on these issues.

Great thread and post!:D

Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 3890483)

I wanted to post this to try and make some understand how people feel who come here and read about what they should and should not of done when purchasing their new puppy after the fact. I will state my experience hope it helps. When I was younger we had poms for pets and were very fortunate to have been sent to a show breeder who pampered them to get our babies...later many years later, I lost my father, closed my salon and all in a few months time and I was very lonely. My children suggested a yorkie and we started looking and asking. Noone we talked to could recommend anyone so there was sigh,,, the internet. That is how we found Laddy. I had never experienced a puppy mill before but when we drove 3 hours to pick him up I knew where he was raised was just wrongggggg. That being said I held this tiny sickly little guy in my arms and my hubby said he wasnt sure we should take him as he looked weak but I just knew he would die if I didnt. Some of you will say this was "enabling " the puppy mill owners and maybe it was to save his life but it was done from my heart. Fast forward....we bring Laddy home and the first night he won't eat or drink and is lethargic. You can find my paniced threads on here after I searched and searched on what to do for him and found YT. Thankfully back then people were not so judgemental and helped me get him over the hump and to a beautiful healthy dog. I did try to put a stop to the place who sold him to me but nothing worked as they are still in business. And yes laddy was only 9 weeks old when I brought him home I had no idea he should be older. I have said all this to say that if had been treated bad when I asked for help I dont know if I would of ever came back to YT again. I thoroughly enjoy all I learn here and that would of been a shame. Yes we all want honesty but sometimes a dose of kindness with it goes a very long way :). Anyway all my YT friends I love this place and just had to get this off my chest as I have gotten a couple pms from new people who thanked me for being kind and were very hurt at the responses they had recieved from others. Not to say I have always been kind, i have reread some of my responses and have spanked myself over the way I worded them also. God bless everyone hope this helps us all to try to educate with kindness.:)

Originally Posted by Tayluvheryorkie (Post 3891931)

IMHO, It is all about the tone.. Direct or not, The tone in a persons message stands out.

The tone in a lot of the messages here are often condensing. I do way more reading than I do posting here for that reason alone. A lot of the time I am here reading a thread, and say to myself "Wow that was harsh". To be honest, I just have accepted it as the way everything is here, So before I ask a questions I go back years and research posts. The information is great here the other mess is just drama.

Originally Posted by MommytoMiles (Post 3892104)

Please don't expect true YT'ers to sit back and say "oh its ok you bought a teacup" "oh its ok you bought a puppy mill dog" "oh its ok you want to breed your great dane with your yorkie" etc., its not going to happen. LMAO!!!! LITERALLY!! TOOOOO FUNNY.... And very true... Especially about the great dane #islandofdrmoreu. Would that even be possible.

Only time I got upset here and almost left the forum is when people were talking about racism / politics which are heated topics and have NOTHING to do with the care of Yorkies.

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3892113)

I wish, unless there is some type of personal attack on one, that we could accept the passion for the dogs that most posters here have and take the good advice about our little charges while focusing less on the tone of the words used and more on the help offered. Tone of written words can be a very subjective thing. More than anything, I see people bending over backward to withhold their true feelings and post help rather than trying to be mean. Sometimes it is so hard though when someone is posting page after page about their dog "acting okay" though it's been vomiting for three days and clearly the person is looking for a home remedy here rather than wanting to spend money at the vet. Sometimes one feels it is necessary to wake that dreamer up and get their attention when clearly nothing else is working. But the intent is not to hurt the feelings of the OP but speak in a direct fashion, since kinder, more gentler-worded posts are clearly not getting through.

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3892113)

I wish, unless there is some type of personal attack on one, that we could accept the passion for the dogs that most posters here have and take the good advice about our little charges while focusing less on the tone of the words used and more on the help offered. Tone of written words can be a very subjective thing. More than anything, I see people bending over backward to withhold their true feelings and post help rather than trying to be mean. Sometimes it is so hard though when someone is posting page after page about their dog "acting okay" though it's been vomiting for three days and clearly the person is looking for a home remedy here rather than wanting to spend money at the vet. Sometimes one feels it is necessary to wake that dreamer up and get their attention when clearly nothing else is working. But the intent is not to hurt the feelings of the OP but speak in a direct fashion, since kinder, more gentler-worded posts are clearly not getting through.