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Now I find this kinda funny but, I read "teacher 1" and "teacher 2" examples....and personally, I find the tone of "teacher 2" to be condescending, and being talked to in such a way would piss me off. |
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A good rescue would never allow adoption without alteration. I'm aware of shelters that allow dogs to be adopted and fees will be refunded upon proof of spay/neuter. |
I get the most angry when someone comes on here saying they "did their research" and "knew what to look out for" yet still did the exact opposite. Then they get all defensive and say we are all mean and leave. Believe me, even if they don't post anymore, they are still reading. YT is the largest yorkie forum out there, and any google search with "yorkie" and any ailment it may have, YT will pop up first. Of course they don't want to pay a vet to find out what's wrong with their dog, so they WILL and they DO read still. Perhaps if they read enough of the same advice over and over it may sink in one day. It did for me. |
I agree kindness should sometimes over rule rudeness !! This is a never ending discussion here on YT. You will never change the way some people communicate their opinions. Just agree to disagree! What others see as harsh or rude others see as educating. We all see and intemperate things differently and can choose to comment and discuss them civically here on YT or we can choose to just sit back and take it all in. Ether way in some way good or bad we are all getting educated. Take it or leave it.... |
Amen, I am going back to just reading the posts. |
I guess maybe my age shows in this issue because I was taught to always be kind, to be angry and sin not. I like all get angry at the people who say they have read all about the aspects before hand but I guess I just don't see the point in being mean to anyone. I don't think it gets through to the type of people who are going to be puppy millers or byb's anyway I just fear it will turn the really sincere ones away from coming here and enjoying YT. |
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The problem I see is that it's hard to regulate what one person sees as being 'mean' or rude and what another person sees as a statement of fact. Fact is, we are not always going to agree on things OR how best to communicate. I think we should all be mindful of our own posts and not spend too much time worrying about everyone elses. I do not see YT as a hostile place. Internet forums are usually great places to debate - but you have to enjoy the back and forth. I enjoy a particular parenting forum - but I did have to develop a pretty thick skin to stay with it! I think how boring my favorite forums would be if everyone just agreed with everything. |
You will find lots of sympathy here for people who have gotten puppies from back yard breeders and puppy mills. Most people just don't know any better at first. It is the people who come here that want to start breeding their pet quality dogs that you will not find much sympathy for. There are many people who do not care to know the facts about the dangers of back yard breeding. They think it will be "fun" and they will make some money. A pet quality dog should not be bred to begin with. It has faults that will only get worse in the next generation. These faults can be both external and also health faults and weaknesses that no uninformed person could be aware of. There are millions of dogs being killed in this country every year. Why produce more pets or dogs that have illnesses that will cause heartbreak for some unsuspecting buyer looking for a pet? It is irresponsible. There are many people on YT that know a lot about dogs and Yorkies in particular but there are those who would rather not take advantage of their years of experience and want to continue blindly repeating the same mistakes of those who have done the same things in the past. I can understand why people get upset with that type of thinking. |
Laughing my butt off KazzyK810. You have read enough of my posts that you know I teach puppy classes and give talks to childrens about the SPAC and pet care. :) I would not talk to most adults by asking a thinking question to see if they understood the lesson. With Teacher # 1. I was just making an example of someone talking rudely, in a judgmental way. Teacher # 2 was supposed to be some one teaching by telling the facts, then listening to questions and ideas. I would be ticked off if someone talked to me like I was a child too ! See how easy we can be misunderstood ! (I was thinking about teaching children when I wrote that. Of couse I wouldn't talk to you that way.) Hugs from that Crazy Yorkie Lady |
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YT should be a place for people to be educated but some people don't want that. What one considers information someone else considers being rude. I do believe it is best to try to tread lightly when possible but when a person out right rejects proven methods and wants no part of established teaching on a particular subject it can get pretty testy. |
Bravo Bravo Lynzy420:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: |
This is the most civilized I've ever seen one of these kindness threads; usually they turn into huge fights! Good job ladies, we can debate and have differences, while still respecting others opinions. |
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As a newbie, I have already noticed that there are many questions posted repeatedly (eg. "Is it a full breed?", "What food?"", "Breeder problems"). I assume that some of the frustration from the seasoned YTers could be due to the lack of effort of Yorkie owners to do their research. Many Yters have made mistakes and have dedicated their lives to stopping puppy mills and preserving the Yorkie breed. Over time, it is expected that one would become jaded. However, I do agree that we need to be respectful to one another and encourage others to educate the world on these issues. Great thread and post!:D |
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