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lynzy420 03-25-2012 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoleNYC (Post 3860727)
I have been searching on here for quite awhile and I contacted her because she seemed to be very knowledgeable, especially on the information she provided as well as on these forums. So I am just a little confused.

Thats why I suggest going down in the breeders forum and post for more information, I gave you my opinnion as did others. You will get lots of good info. ultimtely you have to decide who your most comfortable with and want to do business with. Good Luck, I'm sure you will find the perfect pup!

KazzyK810 03-25-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 3860722)
Ah yes, you are right I left out a few words..I meant to say the full standard - up to 7lbs.....ALL of her studs are 3lbs and some ounces all of her bitches are under 6lbs, this brings up red flags for me, personally...big ones.

Thanks for pointing that out to me!

You might want to go down in the breeders forum and inquire about breeders, including this one. Do your homework, do it well. You will get alot of good information from others on here as well.
Exactly! All of her dogs are within Standard. Three of her four bitches are over 5lbs, the size most reputable breeders go with.

I'd never dealt with them personally, but based on the info provided, this isn't a breeder I'd strike off the list if I were looking, but I would want to see her health guarantee. She's actually breeding real yorkies that look like yorkies....sadly, that seems to be a rare thing.

NicoleNYC 03-25-2012 08:54 AM
Here is her health guarantee and contract. What do you think? I dont know it seems very good to me. Especially that she is willing to take responsibility to each and every pup she sells.

http://www.southeasttexasyorkies.com...20contract.pdf

NicoleNYC 03-25-2012 08:58 AM
If you go to Google and type in "Southeast Texas Yorkies contract" the first link is the contract I found. What do you think? I read over it and it seems very good, especially since she takes full responsibility for every dog she sells..

lynzy420 03-25-2012 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3860745)
Exactly! All of her dogs are within Standard. Three of her four bitches are over 5lbs, the size most reputable breeders go with.

I'd never dealt with them personally, but based on the info provided, this isn't a breeder I'd strike off the list if I were looking, but I would want to see her health guarantee. She's actually breeding real yorkies that look like yorkies....sadly, that seems to be a rare thing.

I stated my personal preference and opinion, I'm sorry it doesn't mesh with yours completely!! I agree with you on some points. I would not want a Yorkie that is being bred by small and Tiny parents. There is a possibility in any litter of a tiny, but when your breeding 3lb Yorkies that likelihood goes up, I personally wouldn't take a chance...I guess it is comes down to personal preference and what we seperately view as REAL YORKIES! I stand by my statement and my opinion.

yorkieusa 03-25-2012 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoleNYC (Post 3860709)
I feel like she seems like she cares as well, as I had to fill out a very detailed application on her website. I know a lot of people are iffy about shipping but it seems like she has some references here on Yorkie Talk that have said nice things. I am just always skeptical no matter what.
I looked up this thread, too:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...lk-thread.html

JMuedog 03-25-2012 09:28 AM
I don't know anything about her personally. I think she looks like a good breeder. From looking at prior posts on YT all her dogs are DNA/genetically tested and every review listed on YT has been positive.

Its good to keep doing your research. I'm sure if you contacted her she could answer any questions you may have.

Jacksmom052709 03-25-2012 09:36 AM
Hello Nicole and welcome! I am glad to see you are researching breeders and doing your homework prior to purchasing a pup. I didn't do any research when I purchased Jack. Thankfully he is a healthy, happy pup! I am a bit concerned though that you live in NYC but are looking to buy a puppy from SE Texas... I would think you would want to purchase a puppy closer to home so you can go look at the mom and dad and the conditions where the pups are being raised. I am not trying to sway you one way or another as I do not have any experience with SET but I would encourage you to look at breeders closer to your home and by looking at the Yorkshire Terrier Club's website. Here is a link - Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and regardless of where ever you buy your puppy from, I wish you the very best! These little ones are phenomenal and I cannot wait to add a sister for Jack to our family. Hopefully around the end of summer.... :D

NicoleNYC 03-25-2012 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jacksmom052709 (Post 3860794)
Hello Nicole and welcome! I am glad to see you are researching breeders and doing your homework prior to purchasing a pup. I didn't do any research when I purchased Jack. Thankfully he is a healthy, happy pup! I am a bit concerned though that you live in NYC but are looking to buy a puppy from SE Texas... I would think you would want to purchase a puppy closer to home so you can go look at the mom and dad and the conditions where the pups are being raised. I am not trying to sway you one way or another as I do not have any experience with SET but I would encourage you to look at breeders closer to your home and by looking at the Yorkshire Terrier Club's website. Here is a link - Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and regardless of where ever you buy your puppy from, I wish you the very best! These little ones are phenomenal and I cannot wait to add a sister for Jack to our family. Hopefully around the end of summer.... :D
Yeah I know what you mean, which is why I am a bit nervous. I contacted about 20 breeders on the referral website from YTCA and got replies from maybe about 3-4 saying they would actually have a puppy. The one I am interested in as a breeder (HiHopesYorkies) seems to really care about her pups but she said to contact her in the summer to see if any are available. SET Yorkies allows you to be put on a waiting list so I am definitely going to get a puppy eventually, and most likely in my time frame but I am not sure which route to go. SET Yorkies offers spaying before the puppies are shipped which might be better as the breeder has a lot of experience with her vet I am sure so it might be better that way.

impish 03-25-2012 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 3860689)
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My only concern is their studs are Tiny and their bitches not much bigger, infact none of the studs or bitches meet the STANDARD where Yorkies are concerned.
What do you mean? I see the studs are smaller than AKC standard but I'm not seeing that with the dams? Just curious.

impish 03-25-2012 10:39 AM
I agree. Nicole, I purchased with someone I could go and see in person, however - if I hadn't found anyone, I personally would contact this person. Seems like you're doing your homework well and I personally don't see any flags.

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Originally Posted by JMuedog (Post 3860783)
I don't know anything about her personally. I think she looks like a good breeder. From looking at prior posts on YT all her dogs are DNA/genetically tested and every review listed on YT has been positive.

Its good to keep doing your research. I'm sure if you contacted her she could answer any questions you may have.

NicoleNYC 03-25-2012 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by impish (Post 3860853)
I agree. Nicole, I purchased with someone I could go and see in person, however - if I hadn't found anyone, I personally would contact this person. Seems like you're doing your homework well and I personally don't see any flags.
I have been reading a lot on Yorkie Talk about what would constitute a red flag such as selling to pet stores, not doing background checks, using the word "teacup" for advertising, having multiple breeds available, selling under 12 weeks etc. But after reading her contract and website, she seems to not do any of these things so no red flags were raised for me either. I guess the only issues is that she is willing to ship, but her contract is so well made and cohesive that I feel she must trust these puppies flying is everything is so well covered in her contract. Plus, there are a few breeders on the YTCA breeder referral that when I emailed them, they too were willing to ship. So I am not sure that this is a much of a big deal as it may seem.

megansmomma 03-25-2012 11:19 AM
I would RUN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION from this breeder! Not only is she peddling puppies on her Facebook but she has them posted on the Lubbuck BUY, SELL AND TRADE Facebook page. This is not how a reputable breeder sells dogs. I personally would never consider a breeder that conducts puppy sales in this manner. IMO, I don't care what kind of "puppy questionirre" is a required formality of approval. If you are selling puppies on a Buy, Sell and Trade page to anyone that comes along you are not reputable in my book. As a matter of fact, about 6 months ago many of the YTCA breeders that are on my friends list removed any breeders that were offering puppies for sale in this manner.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

megansmomma 03-25-2012 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by impish (Post 3860846)
What do you mean? I see the studs are smaller than AKC standard but I'm not seeing that with the dams? Just curious.
In the link that I just posted, she is promising that her puppies will be less that 5 lbs as adults. :thumbdown HUGE NO NO !!!

and this straight from her FB page :thumbdown:

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We are now taking applications for our 2011 Christmas Waiting List. We will have a total of 6 very tiny Yorkie Puppies.

NicoleNYC 03-25-2012 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3860894)
I would RUN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION from this breeder! Not only is she peddling puppies on her Facebook but she has them posted on the Lubbuck BUY, SELL AND TRADE Facebook page. This is not how a reputable breeder sells dogs. I personally would never consider a breeder that conducts puppy sales in this manner. IMO, I don't care what kind of "puppy questionirre" is a required formality of approval. If you are selling puppies on a Buy, Sell and Trade page to anyone that comes along you are not reputable in my book. As a matter of fact, about 6 months ago many of the YTCA breeders that are on my friends list removed any breeders that were offering puppies for sale in this manner.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
The prices she is selling them for on that page seem much cheaper than what she advertises on Yorkie Talk. I wonder why... :confused:


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