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Roccosmommy 02-08-2012 04:55 PM

Has anyone used this to control barking?
 
I'll probably catch heck for this, but I'm at my wits' end with Rocco's barking. He is perfect in every way, but he is getting downright obsessive and is now even barking at pick up trucks driving by!!! I've tried everything else I can think of. I saw this product and wondered if it's safe and humane and effective:

PetSafe Area Bark Control - Electronic Containment & Training

Any thoughts?

BabyFidgette 02-08-2012 05:37 PM

I bought that 6 years ago when Baby was a puppy bc I lived in an apartment that didn't allow dogs. Let's just say I had to press the button constantly. Sold it on eBay. Does that answer your question? Lol ;)

Cathy97528 02-08-2012 06:16 PM

We had similar results. It didn't seem to slow down Ruby's barking a bit . . . .but the constant high frequency being emitted (because of her barking) was punishing Leroy who was being a really good boy.

NewYorksBrandy 02-08-2012 06:29 PM

ummm...
 
Well another Yorkie mommy helped me with this one.. we're not allowed to have pets in our building but I have tried everything to keep Brandy from barking..she told me take a lemon and squeez the juice into a small spray bottle and every times she bad barks tell her BAD BARK and spray the lemon juice in her mouth.. it sounds bad but it only took two small sprays to stop the barking... and we also keep the empty bottle close to the door so she could see it when we say BAD BARK and she stops and moves away..no collar work just lemon juice and water.. the bitterness she hated but made her breath smell good. Good luck

Lovetodream88 02-08-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorksBrandy (Post 3820266)
Well another Yorkie mommy helped me with this one.. we're not allowed to have pets in our building but I have tried everything to keep Brandy from barking..she told me take a lemon and squeez the juice into a small spray bottle and every times she bad barks tell her BAD BARK and spray the lemon juice in her mouth.. it sounds bad but it only took two small sprays to stop the barking... and we also keep the empty bottle close to the door so she could see it when we say BAD BARK and she stops and moves away..no collar work just lemon juice and water.. the bitterness she hated but made her breath smell good. Good luck

What happens if they move and you end up squirting them in the eye or if you squirt bad and it gets in there eye? That could be dangerous and I would not suggest anyone do this.

beautycr75 02-08-2012 07:33 PM

I use a water bottle and put it on stream! My yorkies know as soon as I pull it out to stop barking at the cats outside or the knock on the door! LOL

Carla

beautycr75 02-08-2012 07:34 PM

I only have water in my water bottle!

Lovetodream88 02-08-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by beautycr75 (Post 3820340)
I only have water in my water bottle!

Callie dose not bark but I have used the water bottle for other things with just water in it and it works great but I really would worry about anything mixed with the water because puppies and dogs move so fast they could end up getting it in the eye and lemon juice hurts like crazy when it gets in your eye.

NewYorksBrandy 02-08-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3820307)
What happens if they move and you end up squirting them in the eye or if you squirt bad and it gets in there eye? That could be dangerous and I would not suggest anyone do this.

you are right but shock collar are way worse to suggest.. but their is way more water in it then lemon so it wont harm the pup.. not pure..

Lovetodream88 02-08-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorksBrandy (Post 3820379)
you are right but shock collar are way worse to suggest.. but their is way more water in it then lemon so it wont harm the pup.. not pure..

This person wasn't suggesting a shock collar. Lemon is pretty strong how do you know it wouldn't still hurt? Maybe any one on wanting to do this should squirt in there eye first to see if its safe and doesn't burn because I bet it does. The dog can not say if it burns or even do anything about it if it does but suffer.

beautycr75 02-08-2012 08:11 PM

Can anyone tell me how to post a yorkie on here? I went to where I was suppose to go, but when I hit start new thread nothing? Maybe I'm just blonde!

NewYorksBrandy 02-08-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3820391)
This person wasn't suggesting a shock collar. Lemon is pretty strong how do you know it wouldn't still hurt? Maybe any one on wanting to do this should squirt in there eye first to see if its safe and doesn't burn because I bet it does. The dog can not say if it burns or even do anything about it if it does but suffer.

Well I must say if you see how big the bottle is you just might laugh.. it's about a inch and sprays little drops not a full stream spray so it really can't harm the pup. Before I do anything with my pup I do my home work and ask my vet. Reg water didn't work with Brandy and commands either. So I thought lemon juice was a bad idea till I read up on it and ask my vet. Many trainers use drops for dogs to stop the barking the vet said a few drops in more water will be ok just for the bitterness and stupid me before I did give Brandy the spray I tested to make sure it was not to strong.. I actually by accident sprayed it in my eyes I thought I maybe in trouble but the spray was drops and didn't burn.. their are right and wrong ways to do everything. You must always ask and look around about what you do to your pup.. I'm not the bad Yorkie mom you make me out to be.. as for shock collars I read online on one of the stop barking training sights they said when water in a spray bottle doesn't work try the ultrasonic sound collar.. and if that doesn't work shock collars.. One person actually wrote that they got a shock collar as the last resort and it burned their dogs neck and if they had know to do the lemon juice mix they would have saved their dog from harm..

Lovetodream88 02-08-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorksBrandy (Post 3820411)
Well I must say if you see how big the bottle is you just might laugh.. it's about a inch and sprays little drops not a full stream spray so it really can't harm the pup. Before I do anything with my pup I do my home work and ask my vet. Reg water didn't work with Brandy and commands either. So I thought lemon juice was a bad idea till I read up on it and ask my vet. Many trainers use drops for dogs to stop the barking the vet said a few drops in more water will be ok just for the bitterness and stupid me before I did give Brandy the spray I tested to make sure it was not to strong.. I actually by accident sprayed it in my eyes I thought I maybe in trouble but the spray was drops and didn't burn.. their are right and wrong ways to do everything. You must always ask and look around about what you do to your pup.. I'm not the bad Yorkie mom you make me out to be.. as for shock collars I read online on one of the stop barking training sights they said when water in a spray bottle doesn't work try the ultrasonic sound collar.. and if that doesn't work shock collars.. One person actually wrote that they got a shock collar as the last resort and it burned their dogs neck and if they had know to do the lemon juice mix they would have saved their dog from harm..

Nobody ever said anything about shock collars........... The problem is all it takes is for someone not to know how much to use and have to much lemon in the juice and then you have a problem and it can hurt the dog.

NewYorksBrandy 02-08-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3820413)
Nobody ever said anything about shock collars........... The problem is all it takes is for someone not to know how much to use and have to much lemon in the juice and then you have a problem and it can hurt the dog.

I'm not looking for a fight but I totally understand where you're coming from.. But I would think like most furbaby mommies before you do anything you look it up and ask your vet like I did, I actually asked two vets a male and female. The male said let the pup lick the lemon the female said little drops and a lot of water.. I know no one mentioned shock collars but if you read what I did before I did the lemon spay you would be suprise what people do.. and the smaller dogs have the hardest time.. I really don't mind if Brandy barks I love it.. but my neighbors not so much.. When I do move to our house I will let her what she wants.. but it is bad behavior if the pup doesn't listen. I know from one mom to another that before you suggest something you should alway advise someone what you did and explain it and to ask their vet before they try anything.. Trust me I have done every thing to get Brandy well, I would not want to do anything to make she sick or put her at risk of any dangers..

Lovetodream88 02-08-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorksBrandy (Post 3820419)
I'm not looking for a fight but I totally understand where you're coming from.. But I would think like most furbaby mommies before you do anything you look it up and ask your vet like I did, I actually asked two vets a male and female. The male said let the pup lick the lemon the female said little drops and a lot of water.. I know no one mentioned shock collars but if you read what I did before I did the lemon spay you would be suprise what people do.. and the smaller dogs have the hardest time.. I really don't mind if Brandy barks I love it.. but my neighbors not so much.. When I do move to our house I will let her what she wants.. but it is bad behavior if the pup doesn't listen. I know from one mom to another that before you suggest something you should alway advise someone what you did and explain it and to ask their vet before they try anything.. Trust me I have done every thing to get Brandy well, I would not want to do anything to make she sick or put her at risk of any dangers..

A lot of people won't look it up or ask there vet about it. You said squeeze a lemon in a small bottle so I would think that would be to much lemon and would be dangerous. I really think its a terrible idea at lease how you described it in your first post..........

NewYorksBrandy 02-08-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 3820434)
A lot of people won't look it up or ask there vet about it. You said squeeze a lemon in a small bottle so I would think that would be to much lemon and would be dangerous. I really think its a terrible idea at lease how you described it in your first post..........

you're right but it's always a bad idea not to do your hw on things when itcomes to your pup.. lesson learned the spec are needed..

MY OSCAR 02-09-2012 03:02 AM

Yes, it is harmless but my dog(not my yorkie) seemed to get used
to the beep after awhile and paid no attention to it...

Roccosmommy 02-09-2012 03:43 AM

So the short answer seems to be no, this product doesn't work. Ok, back to the drawing board. And for the record, I've tried the water bottle, rearranging furniture, pennies in a jar, removal from the room, closing the blinds, rewards for "no bark", etc. Nothing works. And it doesn't matter how many walks he has a day or how tired he is - it does not correlate to his barking. :confused:

Danirenae 02-09-2012 03:49 AM

I use a spray bottle with water. Only had to actually use it once. Now when I pull the bottle out.....silence. :p

rhelvey22 02-09-2012 03:56 AM

MOST of the time, what works for me is to turn my back whenever they bark. It might take a few seconds, but when they figure out that they get ignored they stop barking.
I have seen a collar at petsmart that has a bottle of supposedly harmless spray attached. Does anyone know about this? I'm going to look at it when I get food next. Good luck!

gidget529 02-09-2012 06:04 AM

I'm glad you decided against the shock collar. I have posted on some threads where I calculated the estimated "shock" in these collars on a small yorkie. I would not use one of these on a small dog like a yorkie (actually not a large dog either, but that's me). If you do a search, I'm sure you could find the info posted on these collars.

Some on here have said they have had good results from either the citronella collars and/or from the ultrasonic collars. I have not tried these personally, but I think they would be a better option.

gidget529 02-09-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Danirenae (Post 3820531)
I use a spray bottle with water. Only had to actually use it once. Now when I pull the bottle out.....silence. :p

My parents had scotties for years and used the same method. They had the same great results from just a water squirt bottle. After one or two squirts, all they had to do was bring out the bottle from then on.

Harrysmum 02-09-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danirenae (Post 3820531)
I use a spray bottle with water. Only had to actually use it once. Now when I pull the bottle out.....silence. :p

Lucky girl! :p

I tried it on Harry - after about the third time, he would sit there with his mouth open waiting for his lovely lazy drink without having to 'lap'!! :rolleyes: :D Sally + Harry x

BlueBelle 02-09-2012 07:52 AM

Back to what the OP asked about. I have tried that anti-bark device. It worked the first time but after that she just ignored it. It worked for one of my daughter's Bichons but not the other. There is a problem with multiple dogs as all are punished if one misbehaves, maybe peer pressure might be effective.:rolleyes:

snowbird 02-09-2012 08:29 AM

First of all give NewYorkBrandy a break....she is not going to do anything that is harmful to her Brandy. In reference to controlling barking every dog is different. With Bella I have tried everything...pennies in a can...made her bark more....spray bottle...licked it up and thought it was a game...citronella bark collar...at first she would just growl not bark but when something really got to her she would empty the can. At $7.00 a can for the spray and $100.00 for the collar...waste of money...not including going through batteries every 3 to 4 days. I tried rewarding for not barking...punishing for barking nothing works. I have just realized she is a barking dog....I spoke to my vet and she told me what Bella is barking at...people coming to the door or other dogs in the yard is normal dog behavior. What she told me to do is to distract her from whatever it is that is causing her to bark. It is still a work in progress with me.

BabyFidgette 02-09-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by snowbird (Post 3820709)
First of all give NewYorkBrandy a break....she is not going to do anything that is harmful to her Brandy. In reference to controlling barking every dog is different. With Bella I have tried everything...pennies in a can...made her bark more....spray bottle...licked it up and thought it was a game...citronella bark collar...at first she would just growl not bark but when something really got to her she would empty the can. At $7.00 a can for the spray and $100.00 for the collar...waste of money...not including going through batteries every 3 to 4 days. I tried rewarding for not barking...punishing for barking nothing works. I have just realized she is a barking dog....I spoke to my vet and she told me what Bella is barking at...people coming to the door or other dogs in the yard is normal dog behavior. What she told me to do is to distract her from whatever it is that is causing her to bark. It is still a work in progress with me.

I agree. If it's a little bottle like on this site I doubt it will get in the pup's eyes. Grace Saved: Homemade Bug Spray. And if it does by accident, yes, it will burn. But how many of you have sprayed dog cologne, detangler, used hairspray around your dog, or gotten shampoo in their eyes by accident? Or yours? It hurts for a second then it stops. It won't kill them. Plus, she's not purposely spraying his eyes to burn them. JMHO

chachi 02-09-2012 09:43 AM

I have a whistle on my coffee table and if mine get to the crazy barking I blow the whistle and they stop. I have used pennies in a can too I just didnt want to leave a can laying around in my living area so I got a whistle

Lovetodream88 02-09-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette (Post 3820731)
I agree. If it's a little bottle like on this site I doubt it will get in the pup's eyes. Grace Saved: Homemade Bug Spray. And if it does by accident, yes, it will burn. But how many of you have sprayed dog cologne, detangler, used hairspray around your dog, or gotten shampoo in their eyes by accident? Or yours? It hurts for a second then it stops. It won't kill them. Plus, she's not purposely spraying his eyes to burn them. JMHO

I never spray any of that stuff on Callie and I use a tear less face wash shampoo on her head. There was on person who posted on here about shampoo getting in the dogs eye and the next morning the poor thing couldn't open his eye. Anything that can get in the eyes is dangerous and I don't play with eyes they don't grow back and aren't always easily fixed if something goes wrong with them. Have you even gotten lemon juice in you eye? It hurts its not just a little sting and in order to stop it most of the time you have to rinse your eye and a dog cant do that or say hey this is crazy burning so you have no idea how bad it hurts them just that is does. I never said she was purposely spraying it in the eyes but you cant control the dog to not move so that you know there not going to jerk and get sprayed right in the eye.

Harrysmum 02-09-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3820757)
I have a whistle on my coffee table and if mine get to the crazy barking I blow the whistle and they stop. I have used pennies in a can too I just didnt want to leave a can laying around in my living area so I got a whistle

I got a whistle, too! :thumbup: And if that doesn't work - I squeeze Harry's favourite tennis ball with the squeaker inside very hard (just once) but out of his sight.....he always comes running to see who's 'killed' his favourite toy....:D Sally + Harry x

NewYorksBrandy 02-09-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3820757)
I have a whistle on my coffee table and if mine get to the crazy barking I blow the whistle and they stop. I have used pennies in a can too I just didnt want to leave a can laying around in my living area so I got a whistle

I actually like the whistle at the table idea.. and the turning the back idea...I tried the whistle idea for a while it did work but after three days.. it failed.. I'm with Snowbird it is normal for a dog or even a pup to bark even if it is a lot. I love Brandy barking but my neighbors called the super on us and they gave us a warning the only reason I went the way i did was because I didn't want to lost my baby. Did i it hurt her no could it have yes.. Their is no right or wrong answer for this question. Dogs bark because of things and changes around them just to let you know their aware of their surroundings.. I really don't care if anyone doesn't like my answer but the lesson here is barking is their voice you just have to keep at it if you want it to change. I learned that yorkies could be suborn when it comes to training. Ask your vet like I did and other moms out their.. you could also go to a trainer and see if that helps.. the key is to do your best..


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