OP I feel your pain and have found some dogs just don't seem to care if you spray or shake stuff at them or some of the other ideas people have, it's all trial and error. The problem with some of the methods is you have to be next to the dog to make it effective. I work from home and I would be in my office upstairs, on the phone and he would be on the landing looking out and bark and run down the stairs ready to attack, or I would be cooking with my hands a mess and he would see something and then start, then he would see me coming and take off running somewhere. I normally had to shut us in my office so I could work on the phone. I did something radical once to cure my first yorkie from non stop barking. It was 25 years ago, and I will preface this with if you want to jump on me go ahead cause LOL I don't give a chit :p My vet told me there was an operation for debarking, so I had it done when he was having another procedure, the vet took a few biopsy type hole punches in his vocal cords which reduced the bark to a very low raspy sound. For a few days I could tell it hurt him and I felt bad, but after several days he was back to his old but much more quite self. I don't think I would ever have this done again, unless I was forced into some type of situation where I had to live in a condo or apartment and it was that or give up a barking dog.

oh my goodness!! that REALLY cracked me up....
i can just picture the stream going into the mouth of a happy (bratty) pup!!

:eyetearss

[QUOTE=NewYorksBrandy;3820419]I'm not looking for a fight but I totally understand where you're coming from..QUOTE

Oh how I understand your feeling, some people no matter what you say get on you like a rapid dog on a bone and scold you like you are a child, over and over and over and over and over:( Taylor I luv ya:love: and I know you have lots of good suggestions and ideas:bulb: but please can't you try to play nice with your fellow Yorkie Talkers :hands:

I think you really need to recheck your answer tearless shampoo, it does sting.. I have tried it so has my son and other babies out their.. Now as for the bottle uses it is as small as the bottle shown in the link above. Only drops come out not a spray. I'm sure everyone here has gotten at one time or another something sprayed in their eyes and they were just fine.. I do understand that sometime people and animals have different reactions to thing. I say you are a good mommy because you're fighting about this. not to be funny or anything. I feel that you're really just looking to much into the what if. I did go to my vet two matter of fact. I again would never do anything to hurt my pup because as everyone know I nursed my pup back to good health because she was so sick when I got her. I think you're lucky that Callie has not been exposed to things that could hurt her because that is the right thing for pup to stay safe. But again things happen their is no need to be mad and I'm glad everyones opinion counts. The reason we are all writing is to help one another not to fight but the concern is noted. Let go back to being friend because this site is about building with each other even if at times we are wrong.

[quote=DBlain;3820791]I'm not trying to fight with her but there are people who will read this and more then likely over lemon the water and end up getting it in the dogs eye. Not everyone researches things and talks to there vets about it. I can just see someone doing that and causing there dog a lot of pain. I do play nice with fellow yorkie talkers and my post follows the rules if it did not the moderator would take care of them so lets leave moderating to the moderators please.

[quote=DBlain;3820791]Thank you for understanding I feel people should not fight over what if's.. Now I understand that things can happen but like I said before I did it I asked my vet the two who were treating Brandy. The bottle is pitifully small should be called a spray bottle because it does not spray. I like everyones Ideas but ripping a person another one isn't right because to be honest trying to stop a dog from bark anyway everyone has tried is wrong because that' what dogs do..Even water in a water bottle can harm them did you know if water is left in a spray bottle long enough it could get bacteria, as well as rust you can't see in a nossil, and those thing can lead to eye irritation. I work in the medical field and am working on my RN so nothing suprises me now and day. I feel some people are luckier than others in this matter.

The dog may have been ok but the dog also may have been in pain too. You have to look into the what if when posting things on here because some really clueless people come and read this stuff and then attempt it. Callie has been exposed to things that will hurt her but I would not purposefully do something to her that might hurt her. Callie's baths take probably longer then most dogs baths because I am very obsessive about not getting shampoo in her eyes and even more so after reading what happened to a dog that did. Nobody said I was mad......... I think this site is about educating people and that's what I feel I am doing.

[quote=Lovetodream88;3820800] We got the point how many times can a person say sorry.. Now shame on the person who doen't do reaserch on what they do to animals who don't have voices. I just want to call it.. friends? if not ok? SORRY AGAIN... If anyone else is mad at me for a what if I"M SORRY TO..no hard feelings

[quote=NewYorksBrandy;3820804]I was not ripping any one a new one that is just how you took it it. Ok so add lemon to that and you have a seriously terrible problem. I never squirted Callie in the head or face so I never had to worry about getting it in her eye plus the bottles had clean filtered water in them and where only used maybe twice.

[quote=NewYorksBrandy;3820807]I never said I was mad........... I have said that in at least two posts now.

really mad...
 

WELLLLL I guess you all will be really mad at me , but.... I had the debarking surgery done to my stud dog(I no longer breed) because he barked constantly when the females were in heat. Nothing worked so I had the surgery done he still barked but a softer tone. what works for 1 dog does not work for all.

Education my dear comes from asking. I know this because I major in education but switched to medicine. Now if you readd you're answer then you'll understand what I have been teying to tell you. People don't do thing on purpose to animal thing just happen sometime but I'm also sure that one time or another somwthing bad has happen to you, your pup, or a family member and you had to say sorry I didn't mean it.

Not sure what your trying to say? People do, do things to animals to hurt them and on purpose. There are also people who come on here read a few posts about something and thinking they know enough try it and then something ends up going bad. Not thinking about the what ifs could leave you unprepared for certain things.

Do you ever wish you hadn't come on YT today?! :sidesplt: :eek: :D Don't you worry - I'm always getting told off!! ;) Sally + Harry x

LOL very creative using the squeaker!!!! Thats all you have to do though is find something that breaks through their craze and tells them okay Ive heard enough. We are definitely the crazy dog people for finding some of these self training ideas

chachi :thumbup: :) !! Exactly, on every count! :crazy: Sally + Harry x

Has anyone ever tried "Training" their dog?? Seriously. to the people who use lemon/water to squirt at their dog- Why don’t you squirt it in your eye and see how you like it?? Then maybe after you know what it feels like- maybe you will use regular water or maybe just maybe you will train your dog.

[QUOTE=lovespandp;3820857]Has anyone ever tried "Training" their dog?? Seriously. to the people who use lemon/water to squirt at their dog- Why don’t you squirt it in your eye and see how you like it?? Then maybe after you know what it feels like- maybe you will use regular water or maybe just maybe you will train your dog.[/QUOTE

Perhaps "Training" all Yorkie Talkers to read all the posts on a thread before commenting would be a good idea as well:D

Nah I'm not I just wish that something could be droped because no one can tell that in their life they never incounter an accident..so I don't care an more for what if's I can say After this I moved on..lol

For those of you that do not have time to read all the posts but would like to comment, I am helping you out, see below in bold

[quote=DBlain;3820865]I did, I don't think squirting lemon water at your dog is the answer, or should even be an option

OK how many people here hurt their pets daily? Raise your hands please... people in this world do hurt their pet but here wee don't at least now on purpose.. SO thos is when I say enough.. I said you were right already dang.:rolleyes:

I really don't care what else is said after this point because PEOPLE life is full of suprise and sometime you just have to go with it. If you think I was wrong sue me my Name is Rosalind Nieves from NY.. My Brandy is just fine.. so take it how ever you want. An opinion was ask not an answer.. so what ever you do is what you do all I know is my pup is happy and so am I. And for people who has never had anything bad happen to them by accident I want to shake your hand because the lord had saved you for hurt and pain so like my sister says TALK TO THE HAND IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT OR ME>>let all just have a wonderful rest of the day.

There is a citronella collar that sprays citronella on the dog and Im sure it could maybe get in the eyes too so its not unheard of for me to hear someone using lemon. Its probably not the best to do because of what can happen but Im not judging for trying it. Honestly I have heard of much much much worse on here like someone spraying bitter apple in the face.

You're kidding! Did they not read the instructions? Think it was a mace-related product? :eek:

They used it as a barking deterent but they were very indignent about it and said it worked for them and if we didnt like it too bad

Let me guess...First you all were the meanest ppl ever! ;) Then a week later in the Sick and Injured section, "HELP, my dog can't see and I don't know why!" :p:rolleyes:

We were the meanies and then the person disapeared which happens when someone tells them something they dont wanna hear

The problem is you think I was being mean and angry when thats not what I was doing I was hoping that anyone who came and read your post about the lemon juice would also read my post about how it hurts and is not a good idea. I felt the need to keep going because I felt I had to defend myself and come on you kept posting back to if you just wanted to move on you would have and not responded to me.

I would say the women who first posted about there dog needing liver shunt surgery and that they couldn't afford but then found away to afford it but then said she was to stressed to take her dog to the appointment it had was hurting her dog. Do I have to pull up some more? How about the people who come here that hit there dog?