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01-05-2012, 11:08 AM | #1 |
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| Lawsuit to prove our furbabies have souls If this woman wins this lawsuit, animals will no longer be viewed as just property. Just read this article on msnbc Woman sues to prove dogs are 'living souls,' not property - TODAY Pets & Animals - TODAY.com I'm definitely going to keep an eye on this. |
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01-05-2012, 11:11 AM | #2 |
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| I'll keep an eye on it, too. All I have to do is look into my Sophie's eyes to KNOW she has a good soul
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01-05-2012, 11:18 AM | #3 |
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| There is no doubt animals have souls, feel pain and love (not just our pets but all animals). And they all need our protection, there is just too much animal cruelty in this world. Do you know what the ironic part is? Humans cannot survive without animals, plants and insects. We would become extinct. However, animals,plants and insects can survive without us. We don't really contribute to the ecosystem so why do we insist on destroying the very things that keep us alive. Okay getting of soapbox now. Last edited by yavenay; 01-05-2012 at 11:20 AM. |
01-05-2012, 11:20 AM | #4 |
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| It seems unlikely but I sure hope she wins. What a great step in the right direction that would be. I've always believed that my furkids have souls. I know one day I will meet them in heaven.
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01-05-2012, 11:31 AM | #5 |
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| All of my babys have souls! Eventhough we dont speak the same language,they always manage to get the point across as to what their needs are. Just last night,it was a bit past dinner time for the furbabys,Mina came and sat beside me. She didnt bark,growl or whine,she didnt even look pitiful,but I knew what she was saying and not because I had looked at the clock. I just knew How can a living breathing thing do that if there is no soul? |
01-05-2012, 12:09 PM | #6 |
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| If this lawsuit is won, imagine the implications. In the long run if the country takes this on puppy mills can be eradicated! I want this to happen SOOOO bad!
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01-05-2012, 12:43 PM | #7 |
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| This would be a huge win for animal ethics! Animals definitely have a soul. The problem is that humans have always made up the rules to suit humans. It is time for a change. |
01-05-2012, 01:09 PM | #8 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Can't remember all the details, but this isn't necessarily a good thing for pet lovers. They say vet and grooming cost could go through the roof because of the much more expensive insurance coverage they would need. There would be other things this would impact, so don’t be too quick to decide, until you learn exactly what this would mean. Personally, I believe Joey has a soul, but I don't know if I want that written into law. Some say, we wouldn't even be allowed to own them anymore, it would be seen as slavery.
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01-05-2012, 01:51 PM | #9 |
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| i will be keeping my eye on this also// its about time |
01-05-2012, 03:02 PM | #10 | |
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I'd love to see a change from dogs being viewed as property, as it might put more bite in animal welfare laws. There could very well be a standard of care established, which would give law enforcement more authority to take animals that aren't being properly cared for, from irresponsible owners....just like kids.
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01-05-2012, 03:07 PM | #11 | |
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I'm just saying that there are pros and cons to every law, don't automatically think this is a good thing for pet owners, and it probably would be a nightmare for most breeders.
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01-05-2012, 03:33 PM | #12 | |
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01-05-2012, 03:41 PM | #13 | |
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Also, it concerns me that some people would try to control what others are doing with their pets. So many people think it's abusive to dress our pets, others think it's abusive to ever leave them alone.
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01-05-2012, 04:33 PM | #14 |
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| Well, maybe this case would at least bring the conversation of the horrors and greed of the puppy millers. With this being in the light more, it would help to make people more aware of the what puppy mills are. In my case, I had no idea and since getting my first yorkie, I have come to learn so much about this subject and there is still much more to learn.
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01-05-2012, 05:43 PM | #15 | |
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But one thing is for sure, animals already have criminal rights as stated in the article so declaring that animals have a soul would be an extension of this. Giving them criminal rights pretty much says they are more than just property. Given that animals (all animals not just our furbabies)are more important to the ecosystem than humans, I would think we want to protect them as much as we want to protect ourselves. Our survival as a species depends on it. | |
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