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12-28-2011, 07:33 PM | #46 |
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12-28-2011, 07:34 PM | #47 |
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| im sad im so sorry for what happen...... it must be so painful, ur yorkie died on ur hand... i just lost my yorkie 2 months ago, but he was just missing.. i cant imagine knowing that my yorkie died.... i was going crazy yelling his name on the road like loosing my own child... veer painful... |
12-28-2011, 07:42 PM | #48 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I'm so sorry for your loss. Not eating is a serious sign for dogs. It's not easy to tell if a dog is in pain. While you can push on a human stomach and get an indication, dogs are genetically programed to hide pain as best as they can and their only symptom of pain will be loss of appetite, so this should always be taking seriously. Another sign of distress is vomiting, this can be an indication of a bowel obstruction especially if there hasn’t been a bowl movement within the 12 hours, and this indicates a trip to the vet immediately because death can rapidly follow. Being 11, it’s hard to say, if it was the result of normal old age, heart disease and things like that, or if he had a bowel obstruction, or an acute attack of pancreatitis. Just as a small baby needs to been seen by the doctor at the first sign of distress, so does a small dog, and sometimes a trip to the ER can make a difference between life and death. Please don’t take this post as in any way criticizing you, you did the best you could, I’m no vet, I’m only guessing at some of the possible problems, and hindsight is much easier. I read the ER forum here, and I’m amazed at how many dogs are saved because someone was able to get their dog to an ER vet. My heart goes out to you, and you can’t blame yourself, you can only learn from this and help educate others. Your experience might help someone else realize that these small dogs can go downhill fast, and when it comes to medical treatment, time is of the essence.
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12-28-2011, 07:54 PM | #49 |
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| What were these grapes called? You said they were large grapes and not the usual kind we buy.
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12-28-2011, 07:54 PM | #50 |
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| Thank You Nancy, I wish with my whole heart that I had read this post from you 'before' this happened to Tiki. I should have known better... If I knew what you just told me, I would have gone to the Vet many times over the years and definitely at first signs in this case ... Living here in Belize, on a small island, is also very problematic. I won't get into it, but we have a humane society, but no 'full time vet'. We have a retired voluntary vet here, and my husband spoke to him and said he would not have been alarmed at all with Tiki being sick for one day. He would have sent us home with him. He also said that because he went so fast he probably could not have done anything for him anyway... Now I know otherwise. I need to know these things. I can't go through this again. Sadi, my female is only 3.5 lbs, she is even more delicate than Tiki at 7 lbs... I need to protect her and now I know a bit more about how to do that. But even with all the research I have done about dogs and Yorkies specifically, over the last 12 years or so, how to raise them, train them, feed them, etc. I did not realize just how fragile they could be and that they could go so fast. I am terrified for my sweet Sadi, and will be an even more protective parent now... I have no children, I feel like I lost my little boy... it is so painful. I know you are not saying anything to hurt me or judge me. I know you are trying to help me and others, and I appreciate that. So, I get now what I should have done, and what I will do differently if ever in this horrible position again. However, I would still like your opinion, do you know or think it was the raisins and Kidney Failure? I will re-read your post and see again what all you thought it could be... Thank you so much for your time, big hugs... |
12-28-2011, 08:01 PM | #51 |
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| Hi YorkieUSA, It was raisins, not grapes. They were large and plump and brown. I eat them daily on my oats for breakfast, but don't normally give them to the dogs. I have given Tiki one or two on occasion... (Sadi is a picky eater and does not like them, thank god!!) but this time, I guess because of the holiday season I gave him a few extra. 4 in total... I get a box of 25 lbs at a time. I put them in zip lock bags in the fridge. Tiki had no access to them on his own. I specifically gave him 4 over several minutes while I ate them as a snack... Next time we get a box, which should be any day now, I will check what they are called, where they are grown and any other details I can find... Thank you, I appreciate your time and questions and feedback... |
12-28-2011, 08:02 PM | #52 |
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| Very sorry for your loss. I have no idea, but possibly pancreatitis or some other GI distress issue. |
12-28-2011, 08:11 PM | #53 | |
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12-28-2011, 08:19 PM | #54 |
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| Ok good, thank you. I have done a ton of research myself and can't get any definitive answers to my specific questions: 1. Was the amount enough to cause this? I think one of the articles you founds says my answer to this may be, sadly, yes... man that hurts... 2. Could he have died of Kidney Failure within 26 hours of the first symptoms? This I feel I still don't know... I am still hoping the answer to this is 'no'... but I am prepared for it to be yes also... Thanks again, you still have not said what you think... but I appreciate you are educating yourself along with me... hugs... |
12-28-2011, 08:21 PM | #55 | |
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12-28-2011, 08:27 PM | #56 |
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| Nancy, these were a large, plump brown raisin. That would make more than the regular small raisins. I'm trying to find something; not sure I will.
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12-28-2011, 08:34 PM | #57 |
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| Thank you Nancy... I can't afford to take anyone's comments personally. What I mean by that is that I have asked for honest, open, kind responses, and I need to trust that is what I will be given. I 'need' to know what people think. I don't want this to ever ever happen again. I am sorry for the loss of your sweet pet, and although I am so happy we had almost 11 amazing years with Tiki, I thought he would live to at least 15 years or maybe I would get lucky and get 18 out of him... I am sure Tiki is pissed off at me for this. He was such a spunky guy, he never would have chosen to die, when he still had so much love and fun left in him. He was extra-ordinary and loved me as much as I loved him. He never ever would have blamed me for this. He would want me to continue on and be happy and remember the good times. But if he could talk he would be as pissed off at I am. I am sure we both feel cheated by this... Sadi, my sweet Sadi. Sadi is gorgeous, tiny, shy, a Mama's girl, cuddly, needy, and not too bright. I don't think she fully understands what has happened. I love her to bits and I am sooooooo thankful I still have my sweet baby girl... Just so you know, Tiki was brilliant, larger, confident, independent, loyal to a fault, did not like to cuddle, but would hug or kiss on request. He did not like to be held, he loved to PLAY!! and eat!! (he was not fat at all). But was my alarm clock for everything. Meals, snacks, going outside, getting up, going to bed, you name it. He kept all of us on a schedule. He was VERY interactive, and he had a BIG presence in the room. He insisted on being noticed. He is greatly missed. Everything is so quiet and calm... and sad... Thanks for listening... hugs |
12-28-2011, 08:40 PM | #58 | |
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12-28-2011, 08:44 PM | #59 |
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| Oh My Gosh!! What a beautiful thing to say Nancy. Thank you so much. The pain is more than I can bare, so you holding some of it is greatly appreciated. I trust it will get easier over time. Thank you again you are very kind... Cindy |
12-28-2011, 08:46 PM | #60 |
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| What you wrote was full of the love you had for Tiki. I feel I almost knew him from what you have written. I wish we could lift some of the pain you are carrying. As I said before, you will find only wonderful support and understanding here. Most of us have been through losses of our beloved yorkies and understand the pain of that loss.
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