Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Suz,

You raise a good point. Since I am someone if I was looking would want one with a tail I think I would have to establish a relationship with the breeder first. Then I think the only fair thing would be to either pay for the unborn puppy upfront (non refundable) or a hugh deposit that was non-refundable. My only choice would be female or male upfront because who could decide when they are only a few days old. Obviously the breeder could be taking a chance because in a court of law I am not sure if the non refundable would stand, that is why at a minimum a relationship (trust) with the breeder is important. In my case this would only be a pet and hopefully the breeder would understand my commitment to Yorkie's.

This is going to be a tough time for breeders as the controvery grows.

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I wish they had spell check on this site. I always feel like an idiot with a mis-spelled word. :(

CONTROVERSY

Originally Posted by YorkyKids

If anyone does not like the Yorkshire Terrier as it is currently bred according to the breed standard.....then why not purchase another breed. NO ONE is forcing anyone to accept tail docking.

Originally Posted by ttreatsyorkies

I just had my pups tails docked yesterday. It was horrible for them and me. Yes it is less painful for them to have it done at a few days than it is when they are older; just as it is with a baby boy getting circumsized. But unlike puppies they numb a babies area of cut. I have heard many use the clamp and twist method, I have never seen it done so as to whether it is a less painful procedure I do not know; but when I have future litters I will choose to use the mehod because it is a bloodless method. We need to remember that standards don't make it right. Times change and so do standards. Tail docking has been done for hundreds of years, it will take a long time to change. There are many things that at one time were exceptable because it was standard, and in todays society they are considered barbaric. We just need to do what is best for the Breed, and follow what the standards are for that breed. If one is wanting a pup with an undocked tail, than they need to research breeders that are willing to forgo this procedure. I think that it should not matter to the breeder if the tail is docked, if they are not going to keep the pup for show purposes or for personal reasons. I for one would have no problems with not docking a tail if the buyer requests, of course I would also want the pup paid for in advance because an undocked pup is not as desirable as a docked pup. This thread brings up extrememly relevant things to consider when it comes to reasons. Everyone on here is trying to raise their pups as they feel is fit, no one breeder or person is better than another. Judging each other wont change the way things are done only educating, patience, and time will.

Originally Posted by Dogs4Me

Gosh, what's so wrong with getting a Yorkie with an undocked tail? Especially if the pup isn't for show or breeding purposes.

Many of our yorkies are too big, have muzzles that are too long, have ears set too far apart, they aren't the exact required color, don't have black claws, still have dewclaws on their hindlegs, etc, etc. In other words, they don't meet the breed standard one way or the other. But they are our PETS and we love them.

If we love Yorkies and aren't comfortable with tail-docking, why must we get a different breed?

Originally Posted by chachi

I dont think anyone has a problem with getting a dog with an undocked tail. Some people on here have said they would prefer an undocked tail. I think it is just hard to find a breeder who hasnt already docked the tails or one that will take the chance and not dock it. Once the puppies tail hasnt been docked it is worth less money and the breeder takes a chance not docking it for someone.

Originally Posted by chachi

Once the puppies tail hasnt been docked it is worth less money

Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

So, since you believe it is cosmetic, you will be out there protesting also...I think if you feel strongly about this and have a lot of answers, you should do something about it.

Originally Posted by alisonJ

well, there is probably something I can do. I will be making a generous donation to the anti-docking alliance in my name. Hey, Platinum, I'll put your name on it too! :animal36

Check this out.....

http://anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/

The anti-docking contingent is BIG in Europe and Australia, and it is making its way here, so be prepared. It might take a decade or so, but I believe we will be seeing a lot fewer docked tails, just as we are already seeing fewer clipped ears now.
The Brits are perhaps the greatest dog lovers in the world, and when I read the following, I am impressed: The Council of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, at its meeting today, 12th November 1992, resolved:The RCVS considers docking of dogs' tails to be an unjustified mutilation and unethical unless done for therapeutic or acceptable prophylactic reasons.Therapeutic docking to treat tail injury
or disease is acceptable in the interests of the animal.