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Old 10-23-2011, 09:52 AM   #91
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Obviously, you will feel the way you feel about it. 7 and 10 pounds is still tiny and fragile, though, especially in relation to a child.

As for you having never heard of a child injuring one, than you have been most fortunate. Stick around here long enough and I can guarantee that won't be the case. Calling breeders who choose to not sell to families with children snobbish certainly won't help make your case.
I did not say the breeders are snobs . I specifically said earlier they had the right to choose and owning a Yorkie IS NOT a right. I said I felt like people on the forum are being snobby about it. It is more their attitudes and the way they voice it than the belief itself.
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I used to raise Labs in the 1970s and I never heard of one puppy dieing because it was stepped on, dropped, sat on, or closed in a door. And today I still highly recommend them as a family dog. They can bond with a whole family, much better than some other breeds that tend to be one person dogs. They are loyal, smart, easy to train, quick to housebreak, and have tons of energy.

I think Yorkies are perfect dogs for people that want a constant companion, someone to spoil, snuggle, and pamper. Yorkies will never grow up, move out, go away to school or stop letting you fuss over them. They don,t usually cost as much as a college education, and love you until their last breath.
Teresa, I agree labs are fantastic family dogs IF they are properly socialized early on. They go through a tremendous growth spurt the first year of life during which their body grows a lot faster than their maturity level. They truly don't know their own strength. Unfortunately, I've seen too many people get rid of their labs in that first year because they get big, clumsy and still act like a puppy (jumping, nipping etc). It's sad, because if they can get through that stage then they will have some of the best dogs they could possibly imagine.

I have to disagree with the cost of Yorkies, though. I could easily spend the cost of tuition on toys and bows for Scarlett
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I did not say the breeders are snobs . I specifically said earlier they had the right to choose and owning a Yorkie IS NOT a right. I said I felt like people on the forum are being snobby about it. It is more their attitudes and the way they voice it than the belief itself.
That's the problem with forums. You read tone and "attitude" in to a post based upon your own bias rather than the actual written word.
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I said I felt like people on the forum are being snobby about it. It is more their attitudes and the way they voice it than the belief itself.
Stick around a while and you'll see its just a small group of the same people...you just learn to ignore those ones.
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:03 AM   #95
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Stick around a while and you'll see its just a small group of the same people...you just learn to ignore those ones.
Well it goes both ways. Its also the same people who advocate bad breeding practices and so on and so on.......
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If I was a breeder and had a puppy that was obviously going to be on the tiny side I would feel uncomfortable placing it in a family with small children. Not because I am a snob or because I think no young child should be around small dogs. But because as a breeder I would not be able to tell who had a good home life and good parenting skills and who did not. It is a big responsibility placing a puppy in the right home and yet no one can know for sure what a stranger's home life is really like.

When I first got married I had a small Maltese. As I had children they were taught to be kind and respectful of everyone.....people and animals. I was a stay at home mom. The kids were used to Sasha and did not really play with her as she was not a puppy anymore. But I did have to be careful when things got busy around the house because with little kids running and playing she could easily get under foot and get hurt.
People are entitled to their opinion and should be able to express that opinion without being attacked for it. There is no one right answer to this matter. People and families differ. There are all kinds out there. Some responsible and thoughtful and those who are irresponsible and seemingly without a hint of common sense. I can see how it would be very difficult to evaluate the parenting skills of all the people who want to purchase a puppy. It's not that no one with young kids should ever have a tiny dog, it's just a matter of not knowing what the person's home life is really like. In an effort to error on the side of caution breeders have had to make the decision not to sell to people with small children. There are no guarantees either way but I would think a person would try to do the best they can by their puppies and have to make such decisions.
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That's the problem with forums. You read tone and "attitude" in to a post based upon your own bias rather than the actual written word.
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Unfortunately there is a small group on here that is only here to IMHO forward their lackadaisical in the least attitude of Yorkie, care, breeding, etc-it's like a group of obvious bad Greeders trying to promote p*$$ poor breeding, standards and dangerous care (or lack there of) to make a below the bar standard seem acceptable by a "group" so when you see their web sites, their poor judgements: it seems acceptable until you are educated otherwise.

Similar to the small "group" here only to self promote their breeding: posing as their own buyers-huh-maybe this group is one in the same.
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Unfortunately there is a small group on here that is only here to IMHO forward their lackadaisical in the least attitude of Yorkie, care, breeding, etc-it's like a group of obvious bad Greeders trying to promote p*$$ poor breeding, standards and dangerous care (or lack there of) to make a below the bar standard seem acceptable by a "group" so when you see their web sites, their poor judgements: it seems acceptable until you are educated otherwise.

Similar to the small "group" here only to self promote their breeding: posing as their own buyers-huh-maybe this group is one in the same.

I am not nor have I seen anyone suggest buying from piss poor breeders or trying to make substandard care acceptable. (I have only been here a few months so maybe I will see it eventually)

I am only saying people seem to think that a person with children should not ever own a small dog and then moan and whine when people buy them from pet stores and the like. So a breeder is a bad breeder if they sell to a family but we want all the BYB and pet stores shut down? Why isn't it that a breeder or rescue can't insist on meeting the whole family or visiting the home?

I didn't buy my Yorkie. I didn't even want a dog. I was visiting family and saw he was at my grams (his third or fourth home in a matter of months) and she was taking him to the pound aka a local shelter that is a kill shelter in a small backwoods town so a matted up, 3 year old, half shaved Yorkie would probably end up getting put down. I thought I could find him a home. I didn't have any takers so now he has a vet app to be fixed and one to be groomed before that as well as TOTW food. In his home with one adult owner he was eating old roy I looked it up and it is supposed to be an awful food. I think he is better off in a home that loves him WITH CHILDREN than at a kill shelter or bouncing from place to place. He has clothes and toys a warm bed and access to medical care that he didn't have before and likely would have never gotten. My kids and husband dote on him and I adore him. *smh* I will probably continue to lurk but if I need help I think I'll go to a book or another website. I joined Dogster a while back too I think I'll lurk over there a bit and get a feel for it too.
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I had a situation here just 3 days ago..grandbaby here for the day, she has been carefully monitored around my three Yorkies for the 2 1/2 years of her life. She is constantly taught how to pet them, not to pick them up and so on. We are all laying on the bed watching a movie,as we have done many times, all dogs there too, I get up to change the movie thats 2 feet from the bed and she jumps up and lands on my little 5 lb male Yogi!! Was totally my fault, and I felt horribly angry with myself. He snapped back out of instinct, didn't break the skin, but got her right by her lip!!! Now, I can say things happen way to fast, even though I have felt like I am on guard when she is here to assure the dogs and her safety!!! It really scared me! A totally innocent situation could have been a really bad one.. I can comfortably say from my own history, small dogs shouldn't be placed in homes with small children and I will firmly stand by this. We just have a situation of my dogs were here first and I adore them and my Granddaughter, so we continue to teach her.
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I am not nor have I seen anyone suggest buying from piss poor breeders or trying to make substandard care acceptable. (I have only been here a few months so maybe I will see it eventually) .
Stick around a bit and then respond to my statement...
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I'm so sorry this happened I can only imagine how you must feel.
Things do happen too quickly.
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Poor little girl she must have been mad at Yogi
Poor Yogi! He must have been scared.
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2 feet from the bed and she jumps up and lands on my little 5 lb male Yogi!! Was totally my fault, and I felt horribly angry with myself. He snapped back out of instinct, didn't break the skin, but got her right by her lip!!! Now, I can say things happen way to fast, even though I have felt like I am on guard when she is here to assure the dogs and her safety!!! It really scared me! A totally innocent situation could have been a really bad one.
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I am not against yorkies in homes with small children.....


I am against small children in homes with yorkies. :-)

Accidents happen, but a lot of accidents are preventable as we are learning.
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I'm so sorry this happened I can only imagine how you must feel.
Things do happen too quickly.
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Poor little girl she must have been mad at Yogi
Poor Yogi! He must have been scared.
How are they dealing in the after math?


Thank you for asking! They are both doing fine. After this happened Gdaughter was crying and she wanted to go lay down and hold Yogi. I really feel like she knew she hurt him because he never snaps at her. They have always had a bond that she and my other two don't have. I have kept her part time from 6 weeks on and Yogi would lay on her pallets when she was a baby and guard her...was the sweetest thing...he is still apprehensive about being around her after our little event.
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I am not nor have I seen anyone suggest buying from piss poor breeders or trying to make substandard care acceptable. (I have only been here a few months so maybe I will see it eventually)

I am only saying people seem to think that a person with children should not ever own a small dog and then moan and whine when people buy them from pet stores and the like. So a breeder is a bad breeder if they sell to a family but we want all the BYB and pet stores shut down? Why isn't it that a breeder or rescue can't insist on meeting the whole family or visiting the home?

I didn't buy my Yorkie. I didn't even want a dog. I was visiting family and saw he was at my grams (his third or fourth home in a matter of months) and she was taking him to the pound aka a local shelter that is a kill shelter in a small backwoods town so a matted up, 3 year old, half shaved Yorkie would probably end up getting put down. I thought I could find him a home. I didn't have any takers so now he has a vet app to be fixed and one to be groomed before that as well as TOTW food. In his home with one adult owner he was eating old roy I looked it up and it is supposed to be an awful food. I think he is better off in a home that loves him WITH CHILDREN than at a kill shelter or bouncing from place to place. He has clothes and toys a warm bed and access to medical care that he didn't have before and likely would have never gotten. My kids and husband dote on him and I adore him. *smh* I will probably continue to lurk but if I need help I think I'll go to a book or another website. I joined Dogster a while back too I think I'll lurk over there a bit and get a feel for it too.
You keep twisting what people are saying into what you percieve they are saying not what is actually being said. No one has said yorkies cant be in a family with children as suggested by you. They have said tiny yorkie pups or tiny adult yorkiesn should not be going to a family with young children. If someone had say a 10 yr old I think that is a fair age to adopt a yorkie that at adult hood was going to be a tiny. I think any family with a child age 6 or greater can handle a yorkie that is going to be a couple of pounds as a pup because it will only be that size for a short period so the time that it needs to be extremely supervised is only months not years. Now everyone may not agree with me on this but I think they would see the wisdom in it and on alot of the posts I read I got the feeling that most didnt see a problem with yorkies (not tiny yorkies) going to homes with familys
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I also wanted to add the most ideal situation for families with children is to adopt an adult yorkie that is on the bigger side. There are always people in the paper looking to rehome an adult yorkie. Either that or a medium or large sized breed dog. That is ideal
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