Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 3656487)

If you are willing to do the research and the homework then that is one thing, but the OP stated on another thread that she wants an online mentor. That is a red flag for me.

Originally Posted by Foster Mom (Post 3656490)

OK I was understanding that however I assumed (and I know it is wrong to assume) that he/she was looking for a mentor, but that the mentor would be someone that would become a "helper" someone who the OP would get to know in person. I just thought maybe he/she was asking online because they thought an online group such as this would put them in touch with someone they could get to know and develop a relationship in person with.

Originally Posted by ragincajun (Post 3656471)

And I'm sure every single OBGyn fresh out of med school REALLY knows what to expect when that baby begins to crown? I would doubt that. Nothing replaces hands on experience.

However, how does one garner experience? It's to do it. Typically, and highly suggested, with an experienced person there to supervise and backup...just in case. In your doctor's example I wouldn't want that fresh out of med school doctor anywhere near my wife. But if the weathered veteran doctor was there then I'd feel alot better.

So, in rereading this thread and his initial post...he was asking for advice (i.e. HELP). Help is NOT bashing someone. Help is giving them proper advice to help them out. In this case, it would be something to the effect of:

1. Get a mentor who is in the profession.
(This should be doable. He obviously knows a breeder already, and is using that breeder's male dog so that breeder has a vested interest.)
2. Work with the mentor in his breeding to see first hand what to do.
(Again, if it's a reputable breeder I assume they are willing to help in this way.)
3. Ensure the breeder/mentor can attend or be available at the birthing time.

Now, I know nothing about breeding and don't want to. However I know that we NEED breeders to bring the dogs we love into the world. And yes, shelters are great. All seven of my pets have come from shelters. However, it is extremely difficult to get a pure breed from one and certainly impossible to get one from a particular line that you own or want one from so suggesting a shelter in this regard is a waste of time because it has nothing to do with his question or what he is trying to accomplish.

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3656501)

Of course they don't. That's why they don't turn fresh OB-GYN's loose all by themselves. It takes years and years of supervised practice before an ob-gyn is allowed to do deliveries by themselves. An newbie, unsupervised breeder is just as dangerous as that fresh faced M.D. And while you would never allow a doctor whose got a whopping one or two deliveries under their belt at you, watching or helping with one or two whelpings isn't much different.

As for finding a mentor, this is from the OP's other post:




http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3655976-post11.html


The OP does not have someone who is readily available. The advice given by the experienced breeders on the other thread was to find someone who was close by so they could be hands on.

Originally Posted by Jackbrooks (Post 3656504)

yes im would like somone on here to advise me on things that do not require a long jorney to ask.
my breeder is more than willing to help and also has refered me to a breeder closer by.

Originally Posted by Foster Mom (Post 3656488)

Loves PandP

I do not want to start a fight or argument and I do respect what you say, however I do have one question:

How does one ever get to be a "great breeder" if they are never allowed to start breeding? As I said in an earlier post even the great breeders at one time found themselves in the OP's position, wanting to start breeding and had some questions. If they all got told not to breed and leave it to respectable breeders, no one would have ever become a breeder.

Again I do not mean to offend or anything, I just needed to ask that question. If I did inadvertantly offend you I am sorry.

To the original poster, your girl is gorgeous!!

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford (Post 3656619)

:thumbup:
:thumbup: Your post is reasonable, clam and hepful.
:aimeeyork To the OP, My suggestion is: Find an experienced breeder, respected by other breeders, for your mentor. Ask questions and listen to the answers. Learn as much as you can.
:thumbdown Ignor the posts that are not helpful. Ignor the rude posts where the poster chants their own opinion over and over and slaps out questions like a bull whip ripping flesh. You do not owe us proof that you are qualified breeder to ask questions. IMO if we reply, it should be with respect and courtesy.

Originally Posted by Jackbrooks (Post 3656482)

i wouldnt breed a 4lbs yorkie either! not the breed standard.
she is the daughter of RIGHT ON TARGET