this is our story about glenda beaver and the high priced rescue
 

I want to tell you I have never been so sad and happy all in one day at one time........ the day i picked up Bella (female yorkie)
I paid $1,250 for her!!
I was suppose to get a show quality dog that one day we might start a breeding program from. I had talked to glenda for over a month before buying her. I was so happy because I was told she had a great personality and that she was born dec 3 20010 and at that age would be potty trained and in good health and up keep, specially since I bought her from a show breeder with a great long history with yorkies....
I even talked to her about what I read on YT (this was after I already sent money)she said I was all a misunderstanding and that she never sold to a pet store and that she is a good breeder and that I was to not listen to "them people" on YT that it all started from "a lady that was mad at her because she wouldn't sell a dog to her....or that was just a hater!!"and she said that it was all like high school stuff.....

I had got her name "glenda beaver" from a referral that said she was ethical and a good breeder........well I beg to differ!!!!
I also want to say, she has still not sent my AKC dogs papers for her or vet paper work, like she said she would ......here is the sad part of the whole story....

our 1250$ show yorkie came to us with 12 ticks stuck to her her skin was peeling off of her so bad, I couldn't take her to a groomer, because they were worried about it being contagious to other dogs.
it took 5 baths (that she hates having)to get most of it off her and she still to this day has sores on her from dry skin and the ticks and she hates bath so much I have to have someone hold her or she tries to jump out the tub and off the grooming table. it's in my opinion she is so not use to being groomed at all and had no socializing and been in a kennel all her life. she had ticks in her ears, she came to me with a red open sores on her bumbum and one dew claw must have grew back but it was growing a nail that was going into her leg. she had retained baby teeth we took care of that and let me tell you I have done rescue and worked with dogs for the last 13 years and I feel like I bought a high priced rescue dog!!!!
It makes me so sad that I gave all this money to glenda and she is letting dogs live like this and be sold like this.......(Bella) she is scared of everything she sits there and poops and pees on her self because she don't wanna move. she will not walk on a leash, she wants to sit in the kennel she came on the airplane to me in, I put the kennel away and she was so upset about it but I had to to make her understand that she don't have to hide away in her kennel...... I don't know what else to say I have photos of all this and my family and neighbors were there right when I came home from picking her up and tried to take her out to go potty they came to see her and we all seen everything at the same time same day she came home....

I called glenda and have been talking back and forth since I got her about all this, she said well maybe you can breed her and get what you were looking for out of her, sometimes with dogs like her that is what they are good for is being moms......I'm at a loss for words please give me your input on what you would do?????? I feel this is all my fault I have never bought a dog without going to the breeders face to face 1st I feel so bumb!!but mad I was lied to.

she is here now and I have been working with her and I just am so upset...I will put the pics on my profile of some of what we had to deal with when she came home.... sorry this is a run on post I tried to edit as best I can I'm just so upset......

by the way just in case she wants to say something about all this I have saved all my e-mails, also since all this I called glenda's so called vet too and asked how and you give a rabies shot and ok a dog to be shipped in the condition she was in i told her everything we seen on bella and she said she didnt see any of that and she said all her dogs that live their at glendas lives in kennels and she would doubt any of them get socialization that she didn't see any ticks on the dog she seen on the day before bella our dog was shipped how can a vet do a well check and see no ticks on a dog let alone 12 ticks and the skin was horrible and she was scared to move when she came to us think how she was at the vet!!?? anyways I find all this pretty crazy and makes me wonder whats really going on in Oklahoma, I have tried to deal with glenda with no real fix being the out come. is all she after is the money now has she gotten in over her head now and what about the other dogs there my head spins with all that I have to deal with after this high priced rescue!!!!!!!

This is so sad :( The only advice I have for you is to report her to AC.

I am very sorry you had this terrible experience. Poor Bella. :( Poor baby should not be bred. She has been through enough already. Continue to love and care for her.

I know you're kicking yourself a thousand times. So, other than to tell you love your girl, there is nothing more to say.

There are others on YT that have had various dealings with Glenda/a few came out ok.


About the Oklahoma thing.....there are some great breeders there and a several that I know on personal basis.

I have a couple questions for you? Were all the required tests performed on this little girl? If they weren't that should answer your question. Did you have a contract?

what would you do
 

what would you do if you paid 1250 for a puppy and you had to go through this??????

i paid that much to start our lines now what do i do

lol sorry all of Oklahoma its not all of you i'm so sorry i said that i just meant her not all of OK.

yes i'm kicking my self but what can i do about it i have the e-mails and what not do you think there is anything legal i could do???

There is much more that should have been done prior to putting up your $1,250 for a show quality dog. One would have been never over the internet.

Do you have a contract. If you do, I'm sure it's a contract that benefits the breeder....not the dog.

I am really sorry you had these problems. But I do know that people warned you about her.
All I can say just love her and don't even attempt to breed her, she has been thru enough as it.

I already posted on your other thread, but my heart goes out to you. I didn't get a dog to start a breeding line, but I did get a dog that acted the way your Bella does. He was scared of everything, and still is a bit. He's a happy dog, and I love him very much. Bella is going to be your world for a long time. Enjoy her.

no i didnt get a contract i asked her about that before i bought her but she said she would sell her to me without a contract......but she asked for a contract the minute i had issues with her after i bought her, i had bought her to show and for pet originally.... but then when i said how her personality was and the ticks and skin issues to glenda she said, breed her you will get a dream dog out of her and that should make up for the money you paid for her .......she said the skin was cuz she kept her in oil and that she has a bad issue with ticks in her area that she didnt see the 12 ticks all over her body!!
and she said she kept her in a kennel and didnt work with her much because she wasnt going to show her her self this was after she was here with me?? i asked her then why when i asked about her age and personality you didnt tell me all this she said she didnt know till the day before she shipped her!!!!!
i should have known i know but i trusted her and she seemed so nice on the phone and in e-mail... till i had an issue that i needed her to address

The highlighted is Glenda's standard line.

No reputable exhibitor/breeder sells a show dog without a contract. A stringent contract at that. One that holds you to showing and Championing the dog. Also, breeder will prepare a dog for the ring......Sorry you got dupped. No contract....you are without a bit of luck.

However, I'm not sure if the new Oklahoma laws would hold Glenda to other things...Like being over the limit.

i know i was taken for a fool and that is why i'm so mad ...... and i have all the e-mails that state all this i am saying on here so maybe i would have something to take her to court for???? and i will be looking into everything i can to make sure all is well with them dogs out there and i will talk to AKC too!! but my goodness i can't believe all this has happened to us i am a good person i thought i did the right things man o man was i wrong!!:(:cry::yorkietal:hug:

You are not alone.

I had my little boy and wanted a girl so I could breed. I figured my little boy was 3 pounds and if I got a bigger female all would be good, right? WRONG!!!

So I went looking for my little girl, I found a breeder that would give me breeding rights (this was 9 years ago and when I lived in Canada). I bought my baby girl and paid 3000.00 for her and also signed a contract that said the breeder got a puppy out of EACH litter she ever had. I thought that was a little crazy, but decided to go ahead with it. (Yes, I was very stupid at the time). So they bring me my girl, I got her April 1 of that year. With my little boy he was only 3/4 of a pound when I got him at 14 weeks old so when I saw her and she was about 1 1/2 pounds, I had no reason to doubt she was 12 weeks old like they told me she was. I was told she would be about 6 pounds full grown. Well about 2 weeks later I got her CKC Registration papers and noted her birthdate was Feb 28, which made her barely 4 1/2 weeks old when she came to me, not even old enough to be weaned yet, lucky for me she was a bigger, sturdy girl and she did fine.

Fast forward 2 years, We had a litter. It did not go so well, first off she had to have a c section, then she rejected her babies so we fostered them out until they were 7 weeks old. She went thru a depression after we fostered the babies out and would not eat or drink for several (8) weeks, the only way I got nutrition into her was to feed her and give water by syringe. I decided then to have her spayed. The breeder tried to talk me out of it, saying the next time would be better and she would help me out. I said no. So the vet tells me afterwards it was a good thing I never bred her again because her uterus wa "paper thin". Well in the meantime this breeder had used myh male for stud, and I bred 2 girls for her, then she brought me a 3rd and this little girl was not even 4 pounds, I absolutely refused to breed her. The breeder had a fit because of this, but I said she was too small to be bred and I was not going to be responsible in any way for her getting pregnant. The breeder then went on to tell me that my male must be sterile because her one girl did not get pregnant and her other girl only had one pup. So by this time I realized she was nothing more than a puppy mill type of breeder and I asked her if she was insane, I said my male had 3 pups with my female and even if her one dog only had one pup, there was no way my male was sterile. The puppies came back after being fostered and my agreement with the breeder (a different breeder) who fostered them for me was she was to keep one pup in payment for fostering, so 2 pup came back, my girl was an awesome mom to them when they came back. They ended up with coccidia and I thought I was going to lose them both. I again got lucky and they survived. The breeder I got my girl from called and said she wanted one of the pups as per our agreement, by this time I was so upset with her and her breeding practices there was no way in hell she was getting one of the puppies, so I lied and told her none of the babies survived. I was NOT putting a pup into her hands.

First she charged me 3000.00 for a girl that was supposed to be 5-6 pounds full grown, she is 10 1/2 pounds and when I told the breeder she was much bigger than I expected she said "Do you want to trade her for another female" I said no, I love her, and I do not care what size she is. She sold her to me when she was only 4 1/2 weeks old. She has a cotton coat, again no big deal, but I was told she would be of show dog quality. She has had numerous health issues, the most serious being having BOTH of her back legs COMPLETELY reconstructed, she lost use of both of them at the same time. One minute she was out on a walk and the next she could not use her back legs, so of course we rushed her into the vet and found out her legs were just a mess and major surgery was needed. She had the surgery on both legs at the same time, then 2 weeks later had to have one redone as it was still as bad as before the surgery. She was not socialized and this has caused problems because she is not always the best with other dogs, she will at random times for no apparent reason go after any other dog we have. She does not do it as often as she used to, but the fact that she does it at all with no apparent obvious, reason the only thing I can think of is because she does not know any better because she was not with her momma and litter mates as long as she should have been so she was never taught by her momma.

The year she had her babies I spent close to 17,000.00 in vet bills. First her ultrasounds, then xrays to see see forsure how many babies there were and to see if she should be able to whelp naturally, then the emergency c section (of course she decided to try to have the babies on a Sunday), then the numerous vet visits to try to figure out why she would not eat or drink, each vet visit was never less than 250.00 - 300.00 and we were at the vet about every 2nd day for almost 8 weeks, then her spay, then the babies had to be microchipped, have their shots, bile acid tests, treatment of the pups for coccidia. Then we had her legs done and then 2 weeks later had to have one re done.

I tell ya, I give good breeders all the credit in the world, I was nieve and stupid when I decided breeding would be a good idea, I mean after all, how hard can it be??? I found out the hard way just how hard it is. I decided that I would leave it to the pro's.

With yorkies breeding is not something to be taken lightly. If you have not bred them before please think twice before trying it, it is alot harder than you think. With the kind of breeder your girl came from you are taking a huge risk if you try to breed her, and God only knows what kind of genetic defects could be in her line, you obviously did not have a reputable breeder and you seem to be very much in the same situation I was in, when it comes to that so God only knows what her breeding stock is like health wise and if there is anything in those lines. Sounds like she is very much like the breeder I used, someone only in it for the money, someone who does not care what she throws together in order to have a litter and make money. Someone who dies not care if there is genetic defects or health issues as long as she can sell puppies and make money. I feel so sorry for any other dogs still in her care and sadly there are alot like her out there.

Please learn from my mistakes and do not jeopardize your girls health and well being, just love her and give her the great life she deserves because apparently she did not have the best life in the beginning and that is all because of someone's greed.

good luck and give that little girl lots of love, it is not her fault where she came from and she did not ask for it.

Hugs

No, you didn't do the right things. You were warned. But, that aside, you were in a hurry......When beginnning a breeding program, there are no short cuts, it's not easy.

Without a contract....you pretty much have nothing......e-mails are nothing. But, as I said there are new OK laws.....check into them.

You were adequately warned on your thread inquiring about Glenda but decided the very legitimate complaints were unfounded and were like "high school". Glenda lied about selling the yorkies to a pet store, there is substantial evidence posted here on yt proving she did sell to a pet store. You either chose to ignore the proof, or it didn't matter to you, as long as you got your breeding yorkie.

If you're serious about starting your own lines, you'll have to start over. This time attend dog shows, get a mentor and learn about the proper way to start your line.

You could try and take her to court for misrepresenting things, but it's going to be pretty hard to prove without a contract. Most likely your best recourse is to report her to the AKC and YTCA. I'm sorry you are having problems with your pup and sorry to hear that the breeder still hasn't cleaned up her act.

i didnt get on YT till after i paid for my dog for 1 and 2 i havent seen the proof about the pe tstores but i dont doubt it now!!!!! i wish i had came here before i paid for her

well if it is up to me i will do all i can to stop this maddness and yes i guess i will have to start over its so sad because bella comes from good lines

Sorry this happened to you, I hope you will give this baby a forever loving home as a pet. It isn't her fault she was raised in bad conditions.

she will be with us forever yes.....

just unsure what to do about all this is the thing!! she sends me a pic of a dog that to us dont look like our bella we got sent to us and she said that picture was just taken of her, so i don't feel she could have changed that much that fast to look so different and we paid alot for what we got and we still have not seen her paper's, all the extra work we have to do with her, that we were told that she was way different then what she is, that is one reason i wanted to buy an older dog. I just feel like we paid for a rescue dog. i could have saved so much money if i would have just got a dog from around here and still gave money to someone i never would have gave money to so they can keep doing this to poor animals. i feel like i did what i tell people all the time not to do!!! its sad to me i hate feeling like i am or are helping someone treat animals badly!!:(:(:(

It is very sad indeed that a person would send a dog in such condition. I guess you have to learn from this. And next time maybe take a road trip to make sure you get what your paying for. But in the mean time this girl is very lucky to be out of that place and into a place that will love her.
Good luck with this little one.

What an awful story. Just keep getting your baby the best vet care, love her and work with her and given time and good training, you could bring her confidence up and help her stress level. Read up on behavior modification training and I think it will help her a lot. I hope she is doing better soon and you get satisfaction in some type of settlement with this breeder.

This is a horrible nightmare.. I know enough not to ever buy a dog over the internet and have it shipped. A reputable breeder would not do that plus not have a contract. I think those are pretty big clues. It saddens and angers me to see that this poor baby had ticks and was kenneled all her life. She needs a lot of TLC and I am happy she is with you. and not that dump she was from. This is a hard lessen to learn , but i sure hope this little dog will be a good pet and overcome her fears . That breeder certainly took you for a ride.

:eek::eek: WOW!! I am amazed!! I have spoken to Glenda before and I agree, she seemed nice. Well, she was going to sell me a female to breed for $1800 plus shipping. She told me that the dog will come with contract and all that so I'm shocked...now, I'm so glad I turned away...My bf says breeder must be local so now I can say I lucked out. I just hope that things turn out for the better for you! Hope Bella recovers from all that she's been through!! I do agree with fellow YTers that breeding her will not be a good idea. All in all, I hope Glenda gets punished for this and the dogs in her kennel will get rescued. :(

You wouldn't be the first person that received a dog that looked nothing like the picture you were sent. Not saying that Glenda sent you the wrong dog, but it does happen.

Has she told you why she hasn't sent AKC papers? If/when you do receive papers, perhaps have your girl dna'd to see if she came from the parents listed on the AKC papers. If she doesn't dna true, then Glenda could be in trouble with the AKC!

You can't change what has been done, so don't waste time feeling badly. But, in the future, do learn what responsible, reputable breeding is all about and make a commitment to be a part of the solution and not the problem.

i have done work in rescue and rescue groups for the last 13 years i have talked with a modification specialist and we will continue to do things to benefit her best interest and her well being thanks for all your thoughts and comment hugs to you all

ok great idea and thanks i give you a big :thumbup: and i will make sure to do all i can to be the solution and stop the problem as much as i can on my part


god bless all of you good pet owners hug your babies for us

jen when you wrote me this is what i was going to tell you, cuz you said you called her and was maybe going to get a dog from her maybe but i was threatened by glenda not to tell anyone anything to just come to her with the issues, i waited to tell anyone what was going on because she told me she was going to send me her papers, but i have yet to see them!!! so i felt being quit about it would only maybe give her more people to get money from and more to be hurt by her. so i spilled it today when she after all was said and done asked me to sign a contract i feel if i sign the contract she sent it will only help her get more puppies back from me and keep her name associated with me and my line if i would breed this dog she is pretty and if she is out of the parents she says she is she could produce very nice pups but because of the life she had before she came here,she is very stressed and scared i know i can work with her and turn her around but i shouldn't have to do that she should have been treated well her whole life!! i hope i get her papers and can prove who her mom and dad is??!!

purplekisses, I'm sorry this situation has not been a good one. I just can't help but wonder what deplorable conditions this poor pup must have been living in before your saved her. If it were me I probably would just love her and pamper her as a pet and chalk it up to a hard lesson learned.

You could try the legal route but I'm not sure how easily this will be if your in two different states. I know it can be a bitter pill to swallow when you feel you have been wronged and then to let the person walk. It may not be what we want to do it's just that you might have to...I did find a link to read about puppy sale laws, maybe you can find something useful to use.....


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Good luck to you and give your little one hugs and kisses.....

thanks i will look into that and it is a pill to swallow but i will not swallow with out at least trying to fight and then if need be i will swallow but with pride that i did all i can for not only bella but all the other families and them dogs/puppies still there.....

hugs and kisses to all your furkids too:animal36