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anevarez · 07-28-2011, 07:33 AM

Thank you all

. His momma is pretty standard. Daddy is small at under 3lbs. I do have four children, but believe me when I say my children respect animals like they would a newborn. Just like I guarded my newborns when I brought them home, I guard my furbabies. Now he isn't uber tiny like some of the pups I've seen advertised online, but still weighing 1.8 pounds needs constant care, even at an older age. I do somewhat understand as Yorkies were created from some larger dogs, so occasionally even the tiniest parents have big puppies and I can o my assume it could work the other way around! Now I've got to concentrate on getting through tropical storm don to pick up my baby! I've decided I want to name him Zeus but I've got to get the hubby on bored. He is stuck on Gus because of Lonesome Dove!!! Thanks all!

MollysMum54 · 07-28-2011, 09:38 AM

and of course, we are all hoping and praying that you are going to get both your little ones fixed so they don't breed.

maggiesmom_2007 · 07-30-2011, 03:12 PM

Like Yorkierose said the Standard says not to exceed 7 lbs.
You can end up with all variations of size even if you breed to the standard. You have to remember that it's not just the parents that determine the size it is also the grandparents and sometimes further back. This is why responsible breeders do not guarantee size. They will usually give you a range. Like for instance I have a 5lb female and she was bred to a 4lb male but I had a pup that at 5 months is just 2lbs while the other two are almost 4lbs. I know whats behind both the sire and dam so although I am surprised by the 2lb girl it's in my Dams background. Just as I am quite sure the other two may make it to about 5lbs give or take. Something I like to do is look at their features ifthey look small then there is a good chance they won't get very big but if their nose and paws are big then there is a good chance they will grow into then. I won't say this is a true method but it works for me, Just as the weight chart work for other people.

DvlshAngel985 · 07-30-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

The standard says nothing about a Yorkie weighing 4 to 7 pounds...it simply states.."Not to exceed 7 pounds"...that is the ideal size..but I have had many 2 and 3 pounders from much larger parents...one of my favorite bitches, Nadine was 8 pounds, she had 6 pups once...none went over 4 pounds..and the sire was 5 pounds...genes are very tricky.

I was going to point that out as well. I don't know where the "4-7" range came from.

anevarez · 07-30-2011, 03:19 PM

Thank you for that info! The breeders I chose will not
Give an estimated weight but will tell you the weight of the parents and the weight of the puppy. I asked why and the breeder said that she had been noticing that her girls were getting a tad bigger than the growth chart suggested and the males were staying smaller in general. Toby's dad is 2.5lbs and his momma is 4. But I know
Surprise genes can sneak in there. Toby was the smallest in his litter and the largest was a female almost doubling his weight at 12 weeks. He weighed 1.2 and she weighed 2 lbs! He has tiny features and the tiniest nose I have ever seen! But his personality is HUGE!

anevarez · 07-30-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I was going to point that out as well. I don't know where the "4-7" range came from.

The akc description on the website is where it came from.

DvlshAngel985 · 07-30-2011, 03:53 PM

We've had this discussion beforeNon YT, and the AKC website repeats the YTCA's standard.
AKC: American Kennel Club - Yorkshire Terrier
YTCA: Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Official Breed Standard

Both say, "must not exceed 7 lbs"

I can never seem to find he one that has the 4-7 range on my own.

anevarez · 07-30-2011, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

We've had this discussion beforeNon YT, and the AKC website repeats the YTCA's standard.
AKC: American Kennel Club - Yorkshire Terrier
YTCA: Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Official Breed Standard

Both say, "must not exceed 7 lbs"

I can never seem to find he one that has the 4-7 range on my own.

It's actually above the breed standard... In the description. The standard does say not to exceed 7lbs. I am not arguing for the record - just curious as to how tiny Yorkies are viewed

DvlshAngel985 · 07-30-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by anevarez

It's actually above the breed standard... In the description. The standard does say not to exceed 7lbs. I am not arguing for the record - just curious as to how tiny Yorkies are viewed

Neither am I. I skip the intro and go straight to the standard, no wonder I never see it!

I wonder why they would put that 4-7 range in the intro if it doesn't match the standard.

YorkieRose · 07-30-2011, 04:17 PM

A good rule of thumb is to double the 12 week weight...once in awhile it is wrong...but I have always found it to be in the general range..

I am going to look at the Maltese standard..it might say 4 to 7....but not the Yorkie..a 3 pound Yorkie is just as Yorkie as a 7 pounder....

DvlshAngel985 · 07-30-2011, 04:20 PM

I just looked and that standard is confusing. "must not exceed 7 lbs. 4-6 lbs preferred."

http://www.akc.org/breeds/maltese/

YorkieRose · 07-30-2011, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I just looked and that standard is confusing. "must not exceed 7 lbs. 4-6 lbs preferred."

American Kennel Club - Maltese

Exactly correct...because the standard reads for the breeder/Exhibitor....ring dogs need to be of size to breed..although not all Exhibitors breed their show dogs, it is the reason dog shows were started...for breeders to compare stock and improve.

PS..standard is the only thing that counts and is correct.

anevarez · 07-30-2011, 04:25 PM

Good to know

I'd hate to come off as being argumentative. I was just confused because the description says 4-7 lbs. I am guessing that "most" yorkies weigh between 4&7lbs?

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Neither am I. I skip the intro and go straight to the standard, no wonder I never see it!

I wonder why they would put that 4-7 range in the intro if it doesn't match the standard.

anevarez · 07-30-2011, 04:27 PM

Wow... so a 1.5 lb yorkie at 12 weeks should be around 3lbs? He is a little smaller than that so lets hope that the breeders history of males being smaller than the chart is wrong on this little guy. I will love him whatever size he is, I would be so scared of a 2lb dog running around! I believe he was 1lb, 2 oz at 12 weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

A good rule of thumb is to double the 12 week weight...once in awhile it is wrong...but I have always found it to be in the general range..

I am going to look at the Maltese standard..it might say 4 to 7....but not the Yorkie..a 3 pound Yorkie is just as Yorkie as a 7 pounder....

YorkieRose · 07-30-2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anevarez

Good to know

I'd hate to come off as being argumentative. I was just confused because the description says 4-7 lbs. I am guessing that "most" yorkies weigh between 4&7lbs?

I saw that also...AKC should make it clearer....and most Yorkie do fall in that range I would think if all were averaged out...I have 4 Yorkies....two are 3 pounds, one is 5 and one is 6...so the average would be 4 1/4 pounds I think..LOL

07-28-2011, 09:38 AM	#17
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07-30-2011, 03:12 PM	#18
maggiesmom_2007 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,991 Blog Entries: 13	Like Yorkierose said the Standard says not to exceed 7 lbs. You can end up with all variations of size even if you breed to the standard. You have to remember that it's not just the parents that determine the size it is also the grandparents and sometimes further back. This is why responsible breeders do not guarantee size. They will usually give you a range. Like for instance I have a 5lb female and she was bred to a 4lb male but I had a pup that at 5 months is just 2lbs while the other two are almost 4lbs. I know whats behind both the sire and dam so although I am surprised by the 2lb girl it's in my Dams background. Just as I am quite sure the other two may make it to about 5lbs give or take. Something I like to do is look at their features ifthey look small then there is a good chance they won't get very big but if their nose and paws are big then there is a good chance they will grow into then. I won't say this is a true method but it works for me, Just as the weight chart work for other people. __________________ Lori, Friday, Olivia, Miranda , Chanel and Casey

07-30-2011, 03:53 PM	#22
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	We've had this discussion beforeNon YT, and the AKC website repeats the YTCA's standard. AKC: American Kennel Club - Yorkshire Terrier YTCA: Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Official Breed Standard Both say, "must not exceed 7 lbs" I can never seem to find he one that has the 4-7 range on my own. __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

07-30-2011, 04:20 PM	#26
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	I just looked and that standard is confusing. "must not exceed 7 lbs. 4-6 lbs preferred." http://www.akc.org/breeds/maltese/ __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

07-28-2011, 07:33 AM	#16
anevarez Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hebbronville, Texas Posts: 243	Thank you all . His momma is pretty standard. Daddy is small at under 3lbs. I do have four children, but believe me when I say my children respect animals like they would a newborn. Just like I guarded my newborns when I brought them home, I guard my furbabies. Now he isn't uber tiny like some of the pups I've seen advertised online, but still weighing 1.8 pounds needs constant care, even at an older age. I do somewhat understand as Yorkies were created from some larger dogs, so occasionally even the tiniest parents have big puppies and I can o my assume it could work the other way around! Now I've got to concentrate on getting through tropical storm don to pick up my baby! I've decided I want to name him Zeus but I've got to get the hubby on bored. He is stuck on Gus because of Lonesome Dove!!! Thanks all!

07-30-2011, 03:19 PM	#20
anevarez Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hebbronville, Texas Posts: 243	Thank you for that info! The breeders I chose will not Give an estimated weight but will tell you the weight of the parents and the weight of the puppy. I asked why and the breeder said that she had been noticing that her girls were getting a tad bigger than the growth chart suggested and the males were staying smaller in general. Toby's dad is 2.5lbs and his momma is 4. But I know Surprise genes can sneak in there. Toby was the smallest in his litter and the largest was a female almost doubling his weight at 12 weeks. He weighed 1.2 and she weighed 2 lbs! He has tiny features and the tiniest nose I have ever seen! But his personality is HUGE!

07-30-2011, 04:17 PM	#25
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	A good rule of thumb is to double the 12 week weight...once in awhile it is wrong...but I have always found it to be in the general range.. I am going to look at the Maltese standard..it might say 4 to 7....but not the Yorkie..a 3 pound Yorkie is just as Yorkie as a 7 pounder....