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YorkieRose 06-25-2011 10:13 AM
PS..I have a small girl who is not a good candidate for surgery...so my vet suggested a specialist...I think your vet should have called you and not started the operation to being with...

BabyGirl Rosie 06-25-2011 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3577596)
I am glad she was able to be spayed...it was a horrible situation, but she will never get pyometra and need ER surgery...hopefully, the pain meds will keep her comfortable...dogs do not retain the memories as humans do...once the painis gone she will forget it...maybe you can have her teeth cleaned by a vet who does scaling without the need of medication...teeth cleaning is not painful...all vets used to scale teeth with the dog awake...like a human having their teeth cleaned...best wishes

Why do they want to put them out to clean teeth? Or is that only if one needs pulled?

cathys 06-25-2011 10:49 AM
This just breaks my heart. I hope your baby heals quickly, I hate to think of her hurting. Words just fail me.

YorkieRose 06-25-2011 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3577618)
Why do they want to put them out to clean teeth? Or is that only if one needs pulled?
More and more vets are bringing in specialists who clean without the need of anthesthia...but it is just so easy and to scale teeth when they are asleep..and some Yorkies have ones that need pulling..an abcess etc...a small tooth that is very lose is simple to pull like a childs tooth, but a bad molar is painful to pull...same as with humans.

capt_noonie 06-25-2011 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Foster Mom (Post 3577486)
The vets name is Diane Beaderman, she owns Scohairie Valley Vet Hospital in Scoharie New York.

Nya is in a lot of pain still tody and will not eat or drink, I am syringing food and water into her every hour and hopefully as she starts feeling better she will resume eating and drinking. I spoke to the state director of the rescue and she is LIVID, she is calling the vet today to demand some answers. Nya's belly from the middle of her ribcage to down between her legs is PURPLE.

When i told my husband about them not giving me the dog or her meds until I paid, he said "so you had to pay them to have the pleasure of torturing the dog?"

My hubby is beside himself he looked at me with tears last night as he was holding Nya and repeating over and over again, I am so sorry baby girl, he looked at me with tears and said "I told her she was going to be okay, I would have never dropped her off if I knew". This is HIS baby girl
OMG that is so sad. :(

I was just wondering if you paid with a credit card. Is there any way you can contact the bank and complain or reverse the charges?

heatherm0890 06-25-2011 11:25 AM
WOW I am in disbelief. How could anyone in the right mind think that would be acceptable? Your poor baby...how is she doing?? Seems like you handled it well...I would probably have to have df come bail me out of jail if someone had done that to my baby...by all means take action against them. You are NOT wrong!

107barney 06-25-2011 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3577628)
More and more vets are bringing in specialists who clean without the need of anthesthia...but it is just so easy and to scale teeth when they are asleep..and some Yorkies have ones that need pulling..an abcess etc...a small tooth that is very lose is simple to pull like a childs tooth, but a bad molar is painful to pull...same as with humans.
I recently visited a board certified veterinary dentist and asked about this after learning about it on YT. It is not considered anything but cosmetic when a nonanesthetic dental is done and is rejected by the American Veterinary Dental Association in their position statement here: http://avdc.org/Dental_Scaling_Without_Anesthesia.pdf

My high risk dog underwent a dental in a specialty hospital with an anesthesiologist on site who consulted to create her protocol. There were no problems at all and it turns out the protocol they used was the same many vets use for small toy dogs for dentals (induction with propofol and maintenance with isoflurane).

capt_noonie 06-25-2011 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3577648)
I recently visited a board certified veterinary dentist and asked about this after learning about it on YT. It is not considered anything but cosmetic when a nonanesthetic dental is done and is rejected by the American Veterinary Dental Association in their position statement here: http://avdc.org/Dental_Scaling_Without_Anesthesia.pdf

My high risk dog underwent a dental in a specialty hospital with an anesthesiologist on site who consulted to create her protocol. There were no problems at all and it turns out the protocol they used was the same many vets use for small toy dogs for dentals (induction with propofol and maintenance with isoflurane).
This is what I have heard also. It's more for the owner, not for the dog. It's not that cheap either.

YorkieRose 06-25-2011 12:45 PM
I would not elect to have a dental without anthesthia...but I know several pet owners who prefer it...and I guess there are cases where it is too risky...
IMO the old way is not the best way...

Kdgd14 06-25-2011 01:02 PM
I am sitting here with tears in my eyes but also furious at the same time. I do wish the best of luck though. I don't understand how a person could do that when she KNEW she wasn't fully under. Like honestly, imagine having a surgery when you can feel everything.(well I guess many people don't get put under for a c section, but that's different.) It's just un-acceptable:/

Foster Mom 06-25-2011 01:41 PM
Ladyjane, I live in a town of 400 people, so the one good pat about that is the vet is usually quite easy to get into. That is about the only thing good about living in such a small place.

he did not just have a dental she also had a spay.

Yes the vet yesterday did send her home with meds, they just were not controling the pain for her.

She just had a nap and is now wandering the dining room beside me. he still won't eat or drink so tonight I am going to try to tempt her with some chicken and rice.

Foster Mom 06-25-2011 02:41 PM
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Nya's belly

Foster Mom 06-25-2011 02:42 PM
The pic does not show the extent of the bruising

ladyjane 06-25-2011 02:44 PM
That's great to live in such a small town and have an emergency vet! :) Glad she took a nap. Thank goodness she is pain free now.

gidget529 06-25-2011 02:54 PM
Was this the same dr that performed the surgery (or the same clinic)? The incision is a little red. The pic is a little hard to see (better than a lot of the pics I take and post, though). Is there a little wound dehiscense (sp) in the middle of the incision - kind of looks like wound is separating a little in the middle on the pic? If that is, I would definitely watch closely. The redness might just be bc of how soon post surgery, but I would watch that middle if it is starting to separate - should not happen and is a problem if it does. It might just be the way the pic looks to my middle-aged eyes.


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