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04-30-2011, 02:46 PM | #1 |
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| wire hair yorkie Hello-I am new to all this. I have several yorkies--I have a standard toy (longer nose) 6 lbs that meets most breed standards. She does have a bit of a thin coat. I have a double coated yorkie that when used for breeding to her produces 4 to 6 lb perfect breed standard complete with baby doll faces and beautiful coats. My question is this: I recently took in a yorkie with papers--the papers did not show a long pedigree--not even three generations. She is 6 months and wiry haired-long but no where near where is should be--her ears flop at the top, she has a long snout and larger nose. She acts like a Jack Russell more than a yorkie. I check the breeder and references and they were all good. I then had a DNA Canine Heritage test performed by Petco--results show primary secondary and tertially: 100 percent yorkie. Could this be? I find it hard to believe. Any other testing one would recommend? She weighs about 5 lbs and is 6 months old. |
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04-30-2011, 03:19 PM | #2 |
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| Did you take her in to breed her? Or advertising you are one?
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04-30-2011, 03:50 PM | #3 | |
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What is a "double coated yorkie"???
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04-30-2011, 04:03 PM | #4 |
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| Yorkies should NOT be double-coated. The only double coats I know of are the dogs that have both their regular coat and an undercoat. Yorkies do not have an undercoat. If the yorkie has an undercoat, I would be doing some DNA testing on THAT dog! Sounds like there was an "oops" along the way in the family tree. There are occasionally wire-haired yorkies. this is a fault. You would NOT want to breed them.
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04-30-2011, 04:11 PM | #5 |
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| I didn't word that as correctly as I would have liked in the last post -- I sure wish we could have more than 5 MINUTES! Occasionally a yorkie may have a double coat and still be all yorkie -- but they should not be bred. Like the wire-haired coat -- it is a fault. Still, I would want a DNA test on any pup that showed a double coat just to be sure another dog had not somehow been mixed along the line.
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04-30-2011, 06:55 PM | #6 |
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| My double coated has been DNA tested-yes I breed but only Princess. I have the double coated to bring out her extremely thin coat and has produced a perfect coat as well as the baby doll face--I did NOT get the wire haired yorkie to breed-she is scheduled for a spay--however I never heard of one and found it very hard to believe she had registration papers. So I DNA tested her and she is showing purebred yorkie??? Is Petco cheating me or lying? Anyhow I wouldnt breed her anyway because she just isnt quality-no lines to trace for champions, etc I just want to know do they really exist? And a double coated is what I call a throw back--not to be shown and usually not for breeding, but in the case of Princess with the extremely thin coat the pups are absolutely gorgeous-I get $1200 per pup with the combo vs when I use a "perfect" stud and like I say again Petco says 100 percent yorkie--I am now getting suspicious of Petco-does anyone know a reputable place to DNA test--willing to test Both again somewhere else. And thanks for your responses! |
05-01-2011, 07:46 AM | #7 |
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| Forgive me if I missread, but if you are not planning on breeding and have a scheduled spay, why the are you so adamant about DNA testing her? I mean she will be a loving pet, so what gives at this point? Lastly, you should be breeding for improving the breed not to get the best bang for your buck with the pups.
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05-01-2011, 10:27 AM | #8 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I have no idea to what level that PetCo goes, with "their" DNA Test. I rather doubt if it's actually "their" test, and not of some Lab somewhere. "Standard" test will go to a tertiary level, and cost around $60-$80, but... If you're really wanting to know about the Blood Line, then you need to get a test that goes a LOT deeper than just three levels, and will cost considerably more than the standard. One might check the AKC site, and see which Test they "like". You have to put a LOT of trust in a Breeder, when counting on the PaperWork/Ancestry of his animals. A good copy of Photoshop on your computer, and you can make your guys related to anybody ! Most Breeders have multiple animals, and just a minor lapse in their "attentiveness", can cause an inbred or unwanted combination, that they aren't even aware of. Not likely, but possible, and they'd still be able to throw a very convincing array of Paper Work on the table for you. These two approaches (Registration-Ancestry / DNA-BloodLine) to the validation of a "PureBred" animal, should complement each other, however, until the cost of really reliable DNA comes down, and time has passed to accrue that information on the breed, all one can do is hope for the best. It sounds like I'm making Breeders out to be bumbling fools, who'll duff you into anything they just happen to have running around, on four legs. That's NOT what I'm saying, the job of reliably researching ANY line back more than 15 years is absolutely MONUMENTAL, if not impossible. I know one thing... IF I had an Animal, with a CH, Trophies and all attached to it, and did a real good DNA Test on it. I may not tell you that, and it may be the worst thing that could happen, IF AKC started requiring DNA testing on their show participants. That might put a serious dent in the annual income of some Breeders. At some point, maybe years away, there's going to have to be an admission, that Technology trumps PaperWork.
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