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I am so sorry this happened. DON'T beat yourself up over it, girl...you didn't know. Things like this happen all the time. It does NOT make you a bad mom!!!! Now I don't know much about these things but I have to agree with the others- I would do the spay since the risk of Bee dying is greater if she tried to give birth to the litter. |
Im sorry this has happend to you and little Bee, dont beat yourself up over it because everyone makes mistakes at times. But now you have the chance to put it right, I agree with other posters that a spay would be less dangerous then her having these pups seen as the father is so much bigger. I would try a different vet. Good luck! |
Don't beat yourself up, accidents happen. I agree with the post that says it's how you deal with it that displays truly the type of owner you are. You came here and asked for help, that's what matters. Someone I know has recently experienced some issues with vets giving faulty information, it was horrific. (it was on the weekend when the normal clinic is open). I've heard horror stories of c-sections, and agree that it is probably far better for your little girl to go through the spay. Please give us an update, we'll all be here to hold your hand. |
You're not a bad mom, stuff happens, life is all about making mistakes and learning from them:) There's no need to beat yourself up. Now, as others have said though, it's time to think about this - #1 - definatly definatly find another vet, I can't possibly think of a reason that a spay would be extra risky right now if this just happened. #2 - talk to some breeders on here so you can properly weigh the situation and make an informed desision asap. If it was my dog, I'd 100% get her spayed NOW |
I really wish we could get an update on this.......... |
Me too... :( |
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just adding my opinion to say that it is risky for any small dog to give birth...even if the male is small. she COULD give birth fine with a bigger dog as a sire...but the chances are far greater for there to be complications and you have to know that there is a REAL chance you could loose not only the puppies, but your baby too. if it was me, that is a chance that i would not be willing to take...and would get her an emergency spay ASAP. you are not a bad person or mommy for having this happen. but now you know better AND you have a choice on how to proceed. good luck to little Bee with whatever you decide for her. our thoughts and well wishishes are with her |
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you all want to know why I am not posting on here ? it's because most people have not posted in a nice supportive way. their opinions were nasty sounding & I don't feel like the people who are going to sound negative really deserve the reply. anyone who honestly cared about not only Bee but about ME reached out to me & messaged me or emailed me. not just asking if I was gonna reply. so to Armaniman & everyone else that's why I haven't responded, because you all made me upset with your mean sounding opinions. I was willing for open honest opinions. but most of yours sounded nasty. not ALL, but most. I was excepting nice helpful opinions & I am not the only one who thinks you were sounding nasty. so unless you're trying to be SUPPORTIVE i don't want an opinion or comment. thanks. have a good day. -Lauren & Bee |
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I am sorry you feel that way. :confused: :( There are a lot of people who posted in a VERY caring and concerned way. Are you not going to respond to any of us? I am genuinely worried for Bee. I am not asking to start trouble in ANY way. You did share this with all of us...we were just wanting to know how she was doing. :confused: |
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I know & as I said "most" people sounded nasty & I just didnt reply on this because I didnt want them to say more, because it honestly upset me. This is where I came for ANY support & then people are like this. I would NEVER do anything that was unhealthy or risky for Bee & anything who thinks I would can rethink & buzz off. She is my first priorty. But thank you Bitsy, I didnt think you were "nasty" at all. |
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I hope you and Bee are doing well. |
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Thanks, Lauren |
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I have called reproductive vets & breeders, all saying that she will be fine 99.9% likely, as long as I get an xray the week before she is due to make sure all the puppies are small enough. As of right now I dont 100% positively know what I am doing, but I am thinking about letting her go on with her pregnancy, because she will be fine, they ALL said. "toy reproductive vets" said she would be. I am not for sure yet. But I dont know why I would "get rid" of something that could be BEAUTIFUL & I will get her spayed afterwards either way. I dont know. I just feel so alone when YT usually made me feel like I had millions of supporters ALWAYS even if it wasnt about Bee. Thanks, Lauren |
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Sorry! Double post. Sometimes I hate my iPod. |
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Also I called "toy reproductive vets" who would know about that I would assume VERY MUCH. I understand everyones concern, but they should be concerned in a nice supportive way. |
Thank you for updating us. It's a horrible decision to have to make. I can really understand that. I'll pray for God to help give you discernment so you can make the best choice. Give hugs to sweet Bee from Peyton and Sophia. |
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If you feel in your heart that that is what is best for you little girl then go with it. Only you know what is best for her..you're her mommy and always will be. Nothing anyone on here says could ever change that! |
I know you must be upset about what happened, but as a pet owner it is your duty to make sure Bee is safe, do you think she will be? I have re-read your post, I do not see anyone being mean to you, i see alot of people very concerned and worried. Good luck with what you decide, I hope you make the best choice for Bee's health. |
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I just wish I got the same |
I would be petrified if my 5 lb. female were pregnant with the pup/puppies of a 15 lb. male and would have no choice to make but immediate spay, no matter how many vet's offices told me differently. That defies credulity. I cannot understand why a vet would tell you that when everything I have always read about breeding says to breed the female with a male of like or preferably smaller size - not one 150% larger! Have you ever read in any of the breeding literature that 150% larger sire is safe for the dam? Can you understand why people reading about this little female in this potentially dire situation might be incredibly distressed about all this and are petrified for this girl? I read about things like this and cry. I see stories on TV about neglect and abuse and get sick to my stomach. You have involved all of us in this girl's life by your posts. Don't our feelings count at all? Is it just all about you? |
Here's the thing Lauren....unfortunately on-line forums are not going to be that. :rolleyes: You are going to get all sort of responses. Some are nice, some are rude, some just SEEM mean because it might not be what we want to hear. It can be really hard to ignore the posts you don't like, and even harder to ignore ones that hit home. I KNOW you are going to get tons of responses to this. Some may come across very hurtful to you. I really believe that most will have the best of intentions for you and Bee If you don't think you are up to hearing all the responses, I would ask admin to close the thread. Then you can email and pm with those you feel closest too. I have already prayed and will continue to. |
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& others see it, it isnt just me who sees it. I had people PM me to make sure I was fine after the way people talked to me |
I do think a few of the posts were out of line. With that being said: this is a life or death situation for your girl. Please consider what the experienced breeders are telling you. It is not safe for your dog to have puppies when the father is three times her size. Please consider the extremely high chance that she will have to have an expensive and dangerous c-section when the time comes. Please also consider that if you bring puppies into the world, you are responsible for them. Are you confident you will be able to adopt the pups out? How will you ensure that they go to good homes? Will you require that they be s/n'd? There is an incredible dog overpopulation problem in this country. Unwanted dogs are PTS in shelters at staggering rates. Will you require that these puppies will be surrendered back to you? |
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