Sad day for a breed with a bad rap. Prayers please

[Gatord]

Originally Posted by Maximo

The problem is that loose dogs are a growing problem. There are more dogs and more people have pets than ever before. We have leash laws, but many people ignore them or they don't adequately secure their dogs (of all breeds). I don't swim in shark-infested waters and I don't want to fear stepping out my front door.

Yesterday a neighbor's large American bull dog and lab were running loose in the neighborhood. Now I am scared again to walk my boys together because an encounter with these dogs would be very bad.

I don't know what the answer is, but something needs to be done to make our streets safe.

Major problem here too. Some afternoons I want to take them for walks and I want do it by myself cause I am not sure if neighbors dogs are running loose. They are not bull dogs but big enough they would hurt or kill my dogs and I am afraid to go alone. So my the time the BF comes over its too late to walk.

[yorkietalkjilly]

I think the Animal Control offices in most counties and cities take control of all dogs that kill humans and it is those Oficers or Police Officers that report the dog's breed to the Health Department in that state. A dog bite reported in our city results in a visit by our Police Department if an actual attack or by the Animal Control Officers if just a bite, to track down the dog or cat, identify it, and take whatever action they deem necessary, such as enforced quarantine or seizure, and write a report for the Health Department, regarding the breed, vaccination status, etc.

Back when I was looking for a Yorkie rescue and used to practically patrol our local AC as well as those throughout D/FW, the greatest numbers of animals they had confined were actual pitbulls and secondly, other large bully breeds. It was a nightmare of one gorgeous animal after another standing there waiting for euthanasia, as many cities won't allow them to be adopted, only retrieved by the owner. I was told few owners ever call, let alone show. As long as TV shows and movies and gangsta videos keep glamorizing this breed, people will keep buying these dogs in overwhelming quantities and then throwing them away just as they do the garbage. Let's face it, so many people can't control their small dogs' behavior, let alone a large, powerful breed. It is so sad this is happening to a wonderful breed of dog.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Bellasmom30

It's not just big dogs that can cause death and injury
Pomeranian Kills 6-Week-Old Girl

When I was working peds ER we had more dog bites from small dogs than large ones. It is just that (usually) a smaller dog does less damage per bite than a bigger one.

My BIL always had Pits. His were well trained, lovable cuddle bugs who loved everyone and every thing. It's the owner and not the breed.

[gemy]

Let me ask this question; is it legal anywhere in the States to have these dogfighting arenas/spectacles?

[moshes_human]

Originally Posted by gemy

Let me ask this question; is it legal anywhere in the States to have these dogfighting arenas/spectacles?

Goddness I hope not.

I really don't think there is.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

When I was working peds ER we had more dog bites from small dogs than large ones. It is just that (usually) a smaller dog does less damage per bite than a bigger one.

My BIL always had Pits. His were well trained, lovable cuddle bugs who loved everyone and every thing. It's the owner and not the breed.

While this may be true, something still needs to be done for public safety. I live in a relatively urban area, a so-called up-scale community according to the real estate fliers, and I often feel like I live in the wild because I have to fear running into loose dogs.

I saw 2 more large loose dogs today while I was walking my boys in my neighborhood.

Also, everyone needs to respect that animals are animals (including humans ) and the sweetest, most loving, and docile ones can do something completely out of character. I've seen it first hand many times.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by gemy

Let me ask this question; is it legal anywhere in the States to have these dogfighting arenas/spectacles?

As far as I know, no.

No animal fighting of any kind is legal.

[Addy0228]

Originally Posted by Britster

In regards to my above post ^^ This link proves my point.

See how many of you can guess which one is the Real American Pit Bull Terrier?
Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

Probably not many.... so ALL of these dogs of many different breeds, could bite someone and be mistakenly labeled under a Pit Bull Attack statistic.

I looked at this link and we have a #2 This is a French Mastiff and or known as a Dogue De Bordeaux. She is a lover!!!

[yorkietalkjilly]

I agree about the loose dog being scary, especially a big, powerful dog with a current breeding lineage of aggression and killing coursing through its nature, such as the poor pitbull has. Until some people stop breeding them for their deadlier traits and start breeding solely for health, good temperament and conformation, they will continue be a highly dangerous animal, despite the undeniably sweet, sweet side it also has. But whatever the breed, if it is big and running around loose, I am uncomfortable around it as I believe most any dog can suddenly attack under the right circumstances. I sue wish people would keep their pets at home or controlled on leash.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by gemy

Let me ask this question; is it legal anywhere in the States to have these dogfighting arenas/spectacles?

No.
but sickeningly...
Dogfighting a booming business, experts say - CNN
Note the legal changes since 2007-fines & misdemeanors are still not enough-thankfully it is now most a felony and even possessing "materials" contraband or any participation is prosecuted...just not enough IMHO.
ASPCA | Dog Fighting FAQ
http://animallaw.info/articles/ovuss...htingchart.htm

[Lil Sis]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

This is interesting. Are there still many pits in your area? I would think if people who really wanted a pit, would just not get them tagged, like people who don't care about following most laws, like thugs or guys who want to fight their dogs. I don't really see that law stopping people from getting pits who really wanted to, and to me it would seem that more disreputable breeders would be around to fill the market. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think banning certain breeds can really solve the problem, more problems will arise from the banning. Humans need to be accountable for their lack of training, but unfortunately I don't see the laws changing anytime soon. a dog bites or attacks they put down the dog. What of the owner? usually nothing right? Sad.

I agree.. the people who bother getting tags list them as mixed breeds.

I am afraid of large dogs (I guess you could tell by my post) -- if they are agressive at all I am reallly in trouble!! I think MOST aggressive dogs are made that way by the owners. BUT... some breeds have more aggressive problems.. and pit bulls is one. Dobbies used to be an aggressive breed that people were afraid of, but with good responsible breeding that has changed. I have a good friend who breeds and show dobbies.. they play with my pack. Maybe one day the pit bulls will be able to "breed" out their image--I also have friends who have pit bulls and I am told they are sweet hearts!!

I am just so sorry for the lady who was hurt and all the fear this has caused.

[Maximo]

All dog breeds were bred for a reason and we have to remember that the reasons were often related to killing and aggression: for hunting and for protecting herds and more. While these breeds have become family pets and are ideally bred to have "good temperaments," and we train them, they still have instincts. Our Yorkies have instincts that have not been bred out of them.

I believe it does a great disservice to any dog breed to portray them as harmless and perfectly sweet in the right hands. If this were true, then we would also have to believe that people choose a doberman over a shih tzu based only on looks. There are differences.

I'm not sure how to adequately convey what I am saying. People need to be held responsible for their pets, and respecting the inherent traits of these pets is vital to instilling that sense of responsibility. My family had an 85-pound airedale, well bred, professionally trained, excellent temperament, a big goof ball. However, we respected the fact that she was capable of "aggression" because that was part of her breed. We wouldn't let her run up to someone and sit back and laugh while saying, "oh, she's harmless!"

[Maximo]

So many dogs are in the "wrong hands" and therein lies the problem. Something needs to be done.

[moshes_human]

Originally Posted by Maximo

So many dogs are in the "wrong hands" and therein lies the problem. Something needs to be done.

Exactly.

If you take on the responsibilty of a dog you must understand the breed.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by moshes_human

Exactly.

If you take on the responsibilty of a dog you must understand the breed.