Help! my Lucy is pregnant
 

Good morning and I hope and pray that maybe there is someone out there that could lend a little support my way. Took Lucy to the groomers on Jan 29 and let them know that she had been in heat since around the first part of Jan., so I wasnt so sure if she was ok to be with other dogs yet or not. They assured me that she would be in a play area of her own or with neutered dogs so there wouldnt be an issue. It was a busy day that day and since it was Lucy's first time at a real groomers they ask me to leave her for the day. needless to say we are expecting puppies now and with alot of research the groomer has decided that the father is a chihuahua! Im scared, we cant afford a huge vet bill and my biggest concern was we didnt even discover this until 4 weeks ago when an elderly woman came in my office and told me she was expecting! I went to the vet and they confirmed that she had all the signs but ws too early for a xray. Decided against xray as it is 100.00 and they say it is not really good for them to have. Lucy is not verry big, she has gained some weight and is verry lazy now but other than that she is not bulging, is this normal? She has been verry tired, wont eat her eggs in the morning but wants meat all the time. please help with any advise, My Lucy is my whole world, Ive had her since she was 4 months old and I love her dearly. she will be 3 in August. this is the first time for this to happen was thinking about breeding this summer wanted to get more educated, did not expect Chorkies! Im so disapointed this has happened to her!

:confused: Did'nt you post this same story a few weeks back!!!!????

here's more info on the original issue:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...-pregnant.html

yes, the other thread was three weeks ago...and here were the possible fathers...

Well, i dont want to do more harm and personally i am against abortion, but I am worriede about her, she is 5 pounds now and only 2and a half, the groomer assured me that it would be fine that no other dog would be near her, and now this, and all they can tell me is it may be a yorkie, maltese, schitu or pomeranian!

so glad we now know that it's the chi that will have to pay child support...:clown29:

I suggest you read some of the stickies in the breeding section and gather supplies needed for the birth.
You should try and find an experienced breeder in your area who is willing to help when the time comes, it's better to have someone there who knows what they are doing rather then going into this with your eyes closed.
Also try and research breeding yorkies as much as you can and keep your vet on speed dial.

Oh and dont use that groomer again! good luck and I pray everything goes well.

Here is what the OP posted on her profile yesterday

"today is day 58 since my Lucy went to the yuppy puppy to be groomed and now is due to have puppies! im scared for her and for the puppies as I am not experienced and had no intention of this happenning at this time. The groomer apologized but has offered no financial assistance and I dont want nothing else to do with them. Lucy now weighs 7lbs 2 oz but her belly isnt huge, just firm, not sure what to expect. The worst of this is the groomer did verify that the father is a chihuahua!"

She has previously stated that Lucy was 5 pounds. This makes 2 pounds 2 oz of weight gain at 58 days. I am not a breeder and have no experience with puppies. Is this typical or does this sound like major problems for Lucy?

I'm sorry this has happened to your baby, but I don't see it being your groomers fault...its not your groomers responsibility to keep YOUR dog from getting pregnant...you should have never took her to the groomers while she was in heat...it is your responsibility to keep her away from any and all dogs during her heat cycle.

Hope you find someone that can help with the whelp. Good Luck!

Since you are now on day 59, you've got about 4 days to learn everything. A $100 investment in an xray is not that much to spend to verify that the pups are not too large for her to deliver and also tell you how many to expect. The amount of radiation in a single shot is minuscule. You need to be prepared to spend a lot more than $100 in the event she needs a c-section or has other complications. Do you have a credit card with nothing on it that you can use in an emergency? You might also want to consider applying for Care Credit at the vet's office.

You now say it was a Chi that is the potential father, but the other day you listed several other breeds. Unless your groomer saw the tie, how is she suddenly so sure? And if she did witness it, why didn't she tell you?

Start looking through the stickies in the breeding section and googling whelping on youtube. You need to be prepared to tear the sacs and cut the umbilical cords. You will also need to familiarize yourself with signs of potential complications such as a stuck pup and eclampsia.

I agree

Oh boy what can I say:angry:

I agree you should never have taken Lucy to be groomed while she was in heat. The people I bought my Lilly from had a terrible pregnancy, Lillys mother almost died because she weighted only 5.5 lbs and had 4 pups. You really need to invest in a X-ray and find out just how many babies Lilly will have, it may save her life!

Exactly! What she said....Good Luck!

I think you need to bite the bullet and get her to the vet immediately for an x-ray. You absolutely NEED to know thier size at this time. just because it is a chi does not mean they will be able to be free whelped. I helped deliver 6 chi's for my sister in laws chi. the dad was a chi as well. let me tell you, those chi's had much bigger heads than any of the yorkie babies I have delivered. I would be very worried in your case. Please get the xray.

Are you positive she is pregnant? Are you feeling the puppies move? If she is pregnant and due any day you would be feeling some movement. When did the vet last see her? If he looked at her a month ago it is possible he was wrong about her being pregnant. If she is not big and you are not feeling movement then she could be having a false pregnancy.
I would think that if she is pregnant that the groomers would be willing to help with any vet bills.

Yeah double amen to that.

Also, to avoid more possible issues for you and for the groomer, you may want to get your fur baby spayed as soon as possible after she gives birth. At least then you'll have peace of mind sending her to the groomers, and then the groomers won't have to be given the responsibility to be constantly watching her.

Good luck!

Strange that there were sooo many un-neutered little boys running around unattended. :rolleyes:

Look, $100 isn't all that much if it saves her life. What if a 25-30 pound male mated with her? No way she could survive that. You have a responsibility to your Dog to care for it to the best of your ability. This is not an option. You must take her to the vet.

Furthermore, I understand your pro-life stance. I have the same views. But this is a dog not a human. Think of HER life.

Is this for real? :eek: I don't have my own Yorkie yet but I know one thing for sure: this is very scary! I'm praying for your little girl and your family. Please, for all the at is good and Holy, take baby girl to the vet NOW! Do you have a paypal? Maybe we can defray some of the cost of the xray if it's that much of a deterrent for you... :( (Totally not being rude, but how are you going to shoulder the expense of PUPPIES if you scoff at $100 for good health care?)

It's against the rules for any YT member to solicit for funds for a member. Only the rescue organizations are allowed to ask for financial help.


The OP stated that she had gained over 2 pounds. Would that happen with a false pregnancy?

Playing devil's advocate here, but why should the groomer be responsible for costs? If anyone other than the OP should be financially responsible, wouldn't it be the owner of the un-neutered male dog? Can a groomer reasonably be expected to keep two dogs apart while he/she is busy grooming other dogs? A tie can occur even if the dogs are separated by cages. It seems to me that ultimately it was the responsibility of the OP to not bring the dog in while she was in heat. It would also seem to me that it would be pretty difficult to prove that the tie happened at the groomers short of DNA testing all the potential father's that were there that day (not a cheap process). Like I said, Devil's Advocate.

I'm sorry! I wasn't soliciting funds, I was offering my own funds (we, as in my husband and I). Anyhow, I do apologize for violating the terms. I am very ashamed. I was just trying to be helpful.

I don't think it should be anyone other than the OPers responsibility...She knew when she took her dog to the groomers that she was in heat, she told the groomer...she knew the risk and IMO to ask the groomer to watch her female was unreasonable when she is busy grooming others.

The un-neutered male owner shouldn't be responsible, he/she took there dog to be groomed not studded out.:eek:

I just believe the FULL responsibility should be the owner of the Female in heat giving all the information.

She knew her female was in heat!! It's the responsibility of the OP to keep her female in heat safely away from other dogs, and she didn't do that.

Again, Devil's Advocate. If you have an unneutered male, you KNOW that nature will shine through given the right circumstances (a nearby female in heat). Unneutered males will go go all kinds of crazy lengths to get to one, crawling over fences or chewing through them, fighting off other dogs, even being killed by running in to traffic just to get to the female. If you don't want any "ooops" litters, you neuter the male. If you are planning on studding him out (responsibly), then you don't take him any place where he is likely to encounter a female in heat. It takes two to tango, or in this case, tie.

You have a point.:thumbup:..Thank you!

I admit I am sceptical about this but here goes anyway. It is my firm believe that when you buy a puppy part of the expense is the spay or nuture. I also realize that things happen and there may come a time money is short. What gets me is this

I hate to tell people but I am on disability and Andy never suffers for anything. If you don't have the cash on get yourself a good vet that will take payments. There are companys out there that loan you money for emergency pet care. Speak to your vet for phone numbers.

Then there is this. I would not have taken my furbaby to the groomers when it was heat knowing they let them run loose in play areas. If you had told her of the heat and she disregarded that. Then she is responsible for pregnacy pet care IMHO

It is very possible for females to gain weight with a false pregnancy. The op said her belly was not big. It concerns me that the OP had made two threads concerning her dog but she will not come back and answer questions or seek advise on whelping. She has not been on since posting this thread.

The OP stated that the vet told her her female has all the 'signs' of pregnancy but it was to early for x-rays. Over the years I have had many females show signs of pregnancy but they were not pregnant. It is not uncommon for a female after a heat cycle to show signs of pregnancy, even if they weren't bred. Many females will go off their food and mope around for two months after a heat cycle then they will perk up and get back to normal.

As for the groomer, the OP stated the groomer assured her the female would not be put with any intact males. If the female came in heat the first part of January then under normal circumstances she would have been out of heat by the end of January, but not knowing exact dates it is hard to say. Most heats just last 21 days. I have a friend that is a groomer and she sure does not let all the clients dogs run loose together. It does not sound like a good practice letting client dogs run loose together, even if they are not in heat unless you are darn sure of the personalities of each dog.

To the OP, if your girl is indeed pregnant I wish you the best of luck with her. Please come back and keep us updated. Breeding, whelping and rearing a litter is a huge responsibility and there are many experienced people here that are will to help you.

I have serious doubts about this entire story. Hey~that's just my opinion.

I wasn't sure about the weight gain. You asked in another posting about feeling any movement of the puppies. Not too long ago, we had a poster who had rescued a dog that exhibited all the symptoms, including what FELT like movements, but it turned out to be a false pregnancy (even went so far as to have a false labor!)

The only thing that will answer the is she or isn't she question is either an xray now or a possible delivery in a few days.

I share that opinion lol

Ditto...:rolleyes:

Once again, amen!