Another's Devil's Advocate: what groomer takes a female in heat?
My groomer will point you to the door...but then again who takes their female in heat out at all?
I'm done wondering about this thread: if someone is pro-life, be pro-life for the pregnant female IMHO and either or hope she is taken to a vet...immediately.

There are so many things wrong with this I won't even list them. I just hope this poor little girl survives and it would be nice if the puppies did too, no matter who sired them.

hoping i don't sound too ignorant, but there really is no way to know if a dog is pregnant without an x-ray?

My thoughts exactly!

down to the last day!
 

Well I appreciate everyone who has voiced there opinion on this matter. I have hired a breeder that is experience who came to see Lucy 2 weeks ago. She stated that it could be a false pregnancie but then we felt movement in the past week. Im not sure why the vet did not want to do the xray, but for some reason it was the vet that discouraged me from doing it and said to let it run its natural course. As for the groomers, I did tell them that she had been in heat for a couple of weeks and they assured me that she had a play area of her own and showed it to me, not to worry about her staying. So as professionals that they are I figured they deal with this and know what they are doing. As for why I dont post on this site until now, I see alot of rude and mean comments so there for I dont feel like sharing, I have my Lucy on my facebook and get more support from people there. But thank you for your concern. I do have a vet on standby and a breeder that is going to help me thru this, still verry hard for me as it is the worst time for me and for her.

I hope everything goes well for your little girl.

don't be ashamed.. your heart was in the right place and that is what is most important. It was just pointed out why we don't offer funds or member start soliciting funds.
You were helping...:p

thank you! I have an appointment at my daughters vet today at 4 to get the xray, I need to know what to expect and the breeder that is helping me stopped by and reassured me that they feel confident that all will be ok. I guess it is normal to feel the babies up by the rib cage and I was concerned that they was to high. After talking to Dr. Bowers nurse, I am no longer crying and feel like all will be ok. The vet that I orriginally went to was not verry informative and acted like I was crazy when I mentioned the xray. This vet highly recommends the xray and also feels like it is important. i have watched several utube yorkies that all seem to handle birthing well and the breeder who has been stoppin by to see us has been doing this for 9 years. they are not yorkie breeders but know what signs to watch for if there is trouble and with the last litre they delivered one of the blue nose pit bull puppies was not breathing and her husband gave mouth to mouth and resucitated the pup and it is alive and doing well. that was a delivery of 13 pups and took all night and into the day. so I do feel like they are compassionate and caring dog lovers that will help me thru this with Lucy.

I am glad you went to another vet and got a second opinion! :thumbup: That was a very good thing for you to do. Also, finding an experienced breeder was a good move as well! :thumbup::thumbup:

However, since they are not personally experienced with small breed dogs, you may want to make sure you do lots of reading and research here about specifically whelping small dogs or have the breeder do some research on it. I hear breeding larger dogs is much different than our little babies. Just a thought!

Please keep us posted and I will pray for a safe delivery.

This is day 63 according to your profile. Good luck.

good job:thumbup: and good luck

I don't see where a scolding is needed. If you can help then help, if not then do not post.

This isn't about who is at fault, but the groomer is responsible for everything that happens to your pet while in their care.

The groomer/salon is most definitely at fault for allowing the dog to be put with a male while in heat. She was told first.. However, the most one is going to get is an "I'm sorry"...

I am not sure I would take my dogs to a groomer that put all the dogs together. they shouldn't be, unless it is a doggy daycare..

And anything can happen to any breed when whelping. There really is nothing so different for yorkies. All puppies can crash, all moms may not be able to whelp easily either, Not just yorkies..

It sounds like you are doing a great job so far with such a surprise. You have been doing lots of research and that is great. The whelper helpers you have coming is good, it doesn't matter if they are yorkie breeders or not. Just having them there will calm you, and it's better then nobody at all ;)

I hope you will come back and update us after the puppies are born.:D

i dont know which way the groomers over there work, but over here we do not let any dogs near each other, :confused: hope ur girl is doin well

Linda,
Remember this is a public forum. As such, every member here has a right to post whether you agree with what they are saying or not. Only the mods/admin can tell someone not to post.

As for the groomer being at fault, I will continue to have to beg to differ with you. Any owner who has an intact male or female is ultimately responsible for the dog's reproductive life. It's an easy fix, if you don't want to breed (responsibly) then spay/neuter. If you do plan on breeding, then you don't take that dog any where that an unplanned breeding can occur. There is no such thing as an "accident", there is only failure to plan properly. Ultimately, it was the owner's decision to leave the dog while she was in heat with someone else. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that someone else will watch the dog as closely as you do.

I hope all is well, can you please give us an update?

Thank you for the scolding, however if admin wishes to chastise me then that is fine. However I don't think you are a mod am I correct? I wasn't telling her not to post I am only saying it is better to helpful or say nothing at all.

What she was saying was the truth everyone on here has the right to post not just you and those you happen to agree with. It is a discussion forum

Agree ;)

What is important to remember is we all have the right to voice our opinion. If we see something we feel is wrong we must/should say something so the others who are reading this thread will also learn. If we don't say anything we are accepting or condoning something we think is wrong. I agree how it is said is important too.

The op had a situation that if she could go back in time would be different. We all can go hmmm how could it have been different, thus putting out information that could help others who are reading this.
If I ever have female who is in heat I now KNOW not to even THINK about taking her out... lesson learned from the op. I thank the op for sharing this info.

I am also glad.. when all is said and done.. it appears because the op has made the decision to have the pups she is taking steps to help her female. That is really what is MOST important now.

It is important to remain objective and not take things that are posted on here personally. There are going to be people who post on here that you like or dislike and they all have the right to post. You may agree with them or not. They may even be a real jerk but they have the right to post. Like I said its a discussion board and on here you get a wide array of opinions. If you dont agree with someone just post that you dont agree. It is also important because there are tons of people reading so there is an effort to get the most accurate info out there for all

Often times someone will google a problem they are having and end up finding YT. They post here for the first time and get responses that come across pretty harsh. This often scares them away as they come here for help but instead get chastised. I hope we all feel that this is not what we want. This site offers a wealth of information from experienced owners. I see nothing wrong with educating in a way that comes across as helpful. If they feel like they are being put down personally, they won't stay. Keep in mind that there is a furbaby that can only benefit from an educated owner. Please respond in such a way that will keep these newbies wanting to come back without being afraid of what they will read.

Beautifully said!!!

The problem is someone will be educating in a way that is helpful and something that needed to be said and they will be called rude. It is a forum and none of us can control how someone posts thats why we should remain objective. Anyone coming to a forum for help should know they could get a wide array of opinions. If everyone posted in the same way on here this forum would be very mundane and boring

Does anyone know anything on the progress?

Did her sweet babies arrive and all is well with babies and mommy?

She made 2 of the same type of threads then I havent seen her on here again so who knows

No, I'm not a mod. I wouldn't want Wylie's mom job here (some days I wonder how she can keep her sanity and sense of humor). However, when you tell someone not to post because YOU don't think the information is helpful then you are censoring others opinions. Obviously what you find helpful and what I find helpful are two different things. Thankfully, YT allows ALL of us to express those thoughts and opinions (whether we find them helpful or not) because the mods and admin are aware that it's not just the OP reading the responses, but others as well who will take what they need from each thread.

That's how I found you!! And I'm so glad that I did!:D

I have a chorkie whom is very beautiful black n tan n looks just like my yorkie Lucy did if not more so