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Rhetts_mama 03-19-2011 03:31 PM
If I had to try and get a grown dog away from poop quickly, I'd much rather it be Yorkie than a GSD!

Mardelin 03-19-2011 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3468920)
If I had to try and get a grown dog away from poop quickly, I'd much rather it be Yorkie than a GSD!
Land Mines....

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:36 PM
Well, first off my GSD never eats poo. She thinks its disgusting and runs from it. And... at least she's not a rat dog. They can't even be trained to go outside... so please, leave the GSD alone.

You guys have no idea how much poop that puppy ate... she ate every poop she could get at completely, also rubbed it all over her face and mouth and the crate and floor and me... if you think this is normal and something worth keeping in your house... i am shocked. I have to tell you its not just a little small habit she has... she has a huge problem... its not as insignificant as you make it sound. I know, some dogs will try it sometimes... but this dog actually seemed to prefer to eat it instead of food. Do you think that is very healthy for it?

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468921)
Land Mines....
Yes, but at least these land mines are not inside your house as they would be with any Yorkie and you won't be stepping in them bare footed ;)

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468787)
Well then you are uniformed. You are a new member to YT, go on here, and your first post is in the For Sale and Wanted Yorkies, offering up a Durrer puppy, to someone you don't know, to a forum you don't know, with no right by contract to do so. Those are the actions of, at the very minimum an uncautious owner. To our eyes, she was in danger indeed, of being rehomed to an inappropriate party, and to be rehomed in violation of contract.
Wrong! The contract did not cover anything to do with rehoming or returning the dog. We actually checked it first. Second, we never intended to offer it for sale without Betty Anne's approval. For the hundredth time: There was no violation of any contract whatsoever.

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Shame on you.
Shame on you for misinforming people, making up lies and assumptions and jumping to incorrect conclusions!

Rhetts_mama 03-19-2011 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468923)
Well, first off my GSD never eats poo. She thinks its disgusting and runs from it. And... at least she's not a rat dog. They can't even be trained to go outside... so please, leave the GSD alone.

You guys have no idea how much poop that puppy ate... she ate every poop she could get at completely, also rubbed it all over her face and mouth and the crate and floor and me... if you think this is normal and something worth keeping in your house... i am shocked. I have to tell you its not just a little small habit she has... she has a huge problem... its not as insignificant as you make it sound. I know, some dogs will try it sometimes... but this dog actually seemed to prefer to eat it instead of food. Do you think that is very healthy for it?
Coprophagia is something that can be treated with something as simple as vigilance and pineapple added to the diet.

Since you consider Yorkies to be "rat dogs", I wonder why on earth you would have bothered to buy one in the first place. It absolutely sounds like returning her to the breeders was the BEST thing for this dog.

BTW, if you say that Yorkies can't be trained to go outside, then you obviously don't know how to housebreak a dog. What is true is that you can't shove them outside for hours on end like so many people do to bigger dogs.

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3468927)
Coprophagia is something that can be treated with something as simple as vigilance and pineapple added to the diet.
Tried that -- she still ate everything every time.

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Since you consider Yorkies to be "rat dogs", I wonder why on earth you would have bothered to buy one in the first place. It absolutely sounds like returning her to the breeders was the BEST thing for this dog.
They *are* rat dogs... in the sense that they hunt rats.

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BTW, if you say that Yorkies can't be trained to go outside, then you obviously don't know how to housebreak a dog. What is true is that you can't shove them outside for hours on end like so many people do to bigger dogs.
Never ever seen or heard of a yorkie that was fully house broken. I knew she never would be, but I didn't expect her to eat it all too. My GSD was fully house broken in 3 days, it required no leaving her outside -- simply taking her out on a leash for a few minutes and she did all her business. After these 3 days there were never any accidents again.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468925)
Yes, but at least these land mines are not inside your house as they would be with any Yorkie and you won't be stepping in them bare footed ;)
Never had a problem....my pups are properly trained....but, then any dog owner knows to look down when walking if dogs are around.....2 reasons.....one you might step on a pup or if dogs aren't trained and confined well then you suffer the consequences.

You're right you aren't right for a yorkie and more suited to outside dogs.....

gemy 03-19-2011 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468923)
Well, first off my GSD never eats poo. She thinks its disgusting and runs from it. And... at least she's not a rat dog. They can't even be trained to go outside... so please, leave the GSD alone.

You guys have no idea how much poop that puppy ate... she ate every poop she could get at completely, also rubbed it all over her face and mouth and the crate and floor and me... if you think this is normal and something worth keeping in your house... i am shocked. I have to tell you its not just a little small habit she has... she has a huge problem... its not as insignificant as you make it sound. I know, some dogs will try it sometimes... but this dog actually seemed to prefer to eat it instead of food. Do you think that is very healthy for it?
And yet she pooed in her crate on the way home last night and didn't eat it.

My Yorkie thank you very much is trained to go outside. And just what actions did you take to correct this behaviour. First before answering look up the threads here on What can be done. But first and foremost if I had a dog that ate poop, I would make sure I would pick up poop immediately.

I have never had a dog that pooed in crate, but I do know sometimes that happens. Usually because the owner has left the dog too long in crate, or there was a tummy upset

Quite simply you didn't have enough gumption and caring to deal with the problem, to research solutions, and to spend the time needed to correct this behaviour.

Three wks is literally a blink of the eye, in the raising of a good dog.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468928)
Tried that -- she still ate everything every time.



They *are* rat dogs... in the sense that they hunt rats.



Never ever seen or heard of a yorkie that was fully house broken. I knew she never would be, but I didn't expect her to eat it all too. My GSD was fully house broken in 3 days, it required no leaving her outside -- simply taking her out on a leash for a few minutes and she did all her business. After these 3 days there were never any accidents again.
They were bred for rat hunting, that is no longer.

If a yorkie isn't fully house broken then it's the owner's fault.....mine are.

Then you are better suited for a GSD....don't they have their own forum. Since you don't like yorkies and aren't knowledgable about how to train one I don't understand why you would want to be on a Yorkie forum.

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468932)
And yet she pooed in her crate on the way home last night and didn't eat it.
Yeah, i'm sure she was in the crate. Actually, the breeder told us to never put her in the crate in the car. So I doubt it was in a crate and that explains why she didn't eat it. JM2C

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My Yorkie thank you very much is trained to go outside. And just what actions did you take to correct this behaviour. First before answering look up the threads here on What can be done. But first and foremost if I had a dog that ate poop, I would make sure I would pick up poop immediately.
100% trained? Don't believe it. I don't think anyone here would believe you either. But like I said, I don't mind that as much as the fact that she eats it. The problem with trying to pick it up right away is that you can't always do it, cause she manages to poop in the crate or playpen when you aren't looking, aren't around or at night. Of course I tried to take away every poop I could, but its not as easy as you make it sound to catch her in time.

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I have never had a dog that pooed in crate, but I do know sometimes that happens. Usually because the owner has left the dog too long in crate, or there was a tummy upset
She was only in the crate for the night, otherwise she was in a large playpen. I also took her outside probably every half hour. But she didn't go there, she preferred to do it inside and then eat it.

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Quite simply you didn't have enough gumption and caring to deal with the problem, to research solutions, and to spend the time needed to correct this behaviour.
I tried, but its too much to keep up with when nothing seems to be working. Its bad enough she can't be housebroken.

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Three wks is literally a blink of the eye, in the raising of a good dog.
This is very true, but I think its enough time for me to know that Yorkies are not for me.

concretegurl 03-19-2011 03:53 PM
Excuse me mine are. Many on here are also trained to go outside. Yorkies are harder to train and have very small bladders hence many people use a pee pad-most people research such prior to adoption so they know they type of training to prepare for.

Furthermore, all dog breeds are known to eat poop it's not specific to any one breed, definitely not specific to Yorkies and it was not an attack on GSD either. It was said by me to inform people...sharing of information...the purpose of YT. Education, information, support, and fun.etc.

Poop eating is like potty training, it requires training...and is in no way a guarantee of defect-especially in a puppy. If the pup ate an unreal amount of poop it was in fact in danger in your care IMHO.

Many people love "rat dogs" they haves spent the time researching the Yorkie (and other terrier) breeds and are well aware of their original function as ratters. Why did you get a Yorkie in the first place if you have such negativity to say about them now...says more about you, your personality and what type of person you are with such a statement than anything else. I understand you are angry over the responses here, but people here were also...they were out of concern for the "rat dog"

Okay I'm done with this thread, off my so called pedastool- it's going down hill big time now...plus Elvis my Yorkie is scratching on the slider to go in the yard-no really he is...

Please consider the aspects required in training before getting any dog, puppy, of any breed, and weather or not you have the time, effort or ability to devote to it all. Let alone research prior...

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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468923)
Well, first off my GSD never eats poo. She thinks its disgusting and runs from it. And... at least she's not a rat dog. They can't even be trained to go outside... so please, leave the GSD alone.

You guys have no idea how much poop that puppy ate... she ate every poop she could get at completely, also rubbed it all over her face and mouth and the crate and floor and me... if you think this is normal and something worth keeping in your house... i am shocked. I have to tell you its not just a little small habit she has... she has a huge problem... its not as insignificant as you make it sound. I know, some dogs will try it sometimes... but this dog actually seemed to prefer to eat it instead of food. Do you think that is very healthy for it?

concretegurl 03-19-2011 03:56 PM
It was the right thing to do to return the pup to the breeder if it wasn't working out-especially since she seems to be a caring and concerned responsible breeder-I commend you for that Tuntun.

tuntun 03-19-2011 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468937)
If a yorkie isn't fully house broken then it's the owner's fault.....mine are.
Disagree. No one has them fully trained. I'm sure you know that. Sure, they may go outside sometimes or even most of the time. But all the time? No.

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Then you are better suited for a GSD....don't they have their own forum. Since you don't like yorkies and aren't knowledgable about how to train one I don't understand why you would want to be on a Yorkie forum.
Yes, I am trying to go but you guys keep writing back insults regarding my dog. The mod should just lock this thread. Don't you guys have other people to help on this forum? With things like potty training and floor cleaners? :P

I never did any harm to anyone here, so I am saddened that you are all so aggressive. Its my hope that there are normal kind people on this forum but they just aren't replying...

Rhetts_mama 03-19-2011 03:58 PM
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Tried that -- she still ate everything every time.
Three weeks isn't enough time to completely cure Coprophagia. Educating yourself would have shown you that. We have a wonderful thread on it here by Megansmama (we call her the poop guru) with a method that is nearly always successful when employed by a conscientious, motivated owner. Again, there's no shame in admitting you weren't up to the challenge. The pup will be better off with someone who is.

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They *are* rat dogs... in the sense that they hunt rats
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They "were" bred to be ratters. They aren't anymore.

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Never ever seen or heard of a yorkie that was fully house broken. I knew she never would be, but I didn't expect her to eat it all too. My GSD was fully house broken in 3 days, it required no leaving her outside -- simply taking her out on a leash for a few minutes and she did all her business. After these 3 days there were never any accidents again.


Then you obviously haven't taken the time to get to know a properly trained and socialized Yorkie. Yorkies are TERRIERS. Very smart, but very stubborn. They take a strong owner that is up to the challenge. Not everyone is.

gemy 03-19-2011 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468926)
Wrong! The contract did not cover anything to do with rehoming or returning the dog. We actually checked it first. Second, we never intended to offer it for sale without Betty Anne's approval. For the hundredth time: There was no violation of any contract whatsoever.



Shame on you for misinforming people, making up lies and assumptions and jumping to incorrect conclusions!
Be aware I am and have been in contact with Betty Ann and Vickilyn. I am not making up anything but posting what I have been told by Betty Ann and VickiLyn,in terms of return.
And you did post on the For sale and Wanted thead, offering this dog to a prospective buyer, and also per LadyJane, offering to sell this dog to someone here on YT.

Radclfemnst 03-19-2011 04:04 PM
I would suggest you just leave and take it as a learning experience
 
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468949)
Disagree. No one has them fully trained. I'm sure you know that. Sure, they may go outside sometimes or even most of the time. But all the time? No.



Yes, I am trying to go but you guys keep writing back insults regarding my dog. The mod should just lock this thread. Don't you guys have other people to help on this forum? With things like potty training and floor cleaners? :P

I never did any harm to anyone here, so I am saddened that you are all so aggressive. Its my hope that there are normal kind people on this forum but they just aren't replying...
It is not a nice or mean situation. Some ppl let their passion get the best of them, some forget that a little tact goes a long way, and some just dislike you for any perceived offense :rolleyes: I've been on the brunt end before so take it with a grain of salt and you learn.

Don't reply. Let it go and move on with your GSD. Don't respond to any of the bait and just be happy that you are fine, the dog is fine, and in the end all is well.

I would also suggest that you PM a moderator to close the thread and just delete your account as well. Negativity just breeds more negative.

Love me and my own little rat dog :p

Mardelin 03-19-2011 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468949)
Disagree. No one has them fully trained. I'm sure you know that. Sure, they may go outside sometimes or even most of the time. But all the time? No.



Yes, I am trying to go but you guys keep writing back insults regarding my dog. The mod should just lock this thread. Don't you guys have other people to help on this forum? With things like potty training and floor cleaners? :P

I never did any harm to anyone here, so I am saddened that you are all so aggressive. Its my hope that there are normal kind people on this forum but they just aren't replying...
Sorry, I'm a breeder and don't care if you disagree with me. If you are diligent they are very well 100% potty trained.

By the way I don't appreciate being called a liar.......

Again, if you don't care for yorkies and don't intend to have one...why are you here. Never mind I know why......

As far as insults.....you are calling people abnormal and liars....

tuntun 03-19-2011 04:11 PM
Spreading misinformation is technically lying.

Beamers Mom 03-19-2011 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468923)
Well, first off my GSD never eats poo. She thinks its disgusting and runs from it. And... at least she's not a rat dog. They can't even be trained to go outside... so please, leave the GSD alone.

You guys have no idea how much poop that puppy ate... she ate every poop she could get at completely, also rubbed it all over her face and mouth and the crate and floor and me... if you think this is normal and something worth keeping in your house... i am shocked. I have to tell you its not just a little small habit she has... she has a huge problem... its not as insignificant as you make it sound. I know, some dogs will try it sometimes... but this dog actually seemed to prefer to eat it instead of food. Do you think that is very healthy for it?
that is totally unbelieveable. If there was enough poop to rub it all over her face, mouth, crate, floor and you, then obviously for so much poop to be available it must be the whole three weeks worth of poop!

Also you doubt that any Yorkie is fully trained. Yorkshire terriers are intelligent little furbabies. (Stubborn, but intelligent) They are trainable. I have two of my own Yorkies, one is a senior the other will be 3 this year. Both of them are housebroken. They have a doggie door which they know how to use.
I foster rescued puppy mill dogs, and if you check my threads regarding Fritz, the foster I had until he was adopted last week, you will see I posted that I was amazed that he goes outside to pee and poop, and he did that from Day1!

I am so glad that you have decided that Yorkies are not for you (maybe you should have done some research before getting one), Yorkies are special little dogs and need special loving owners, so I would say they are definitely not for you.

yorkie_mama22 03-19-2011 04:17 PM
Honestly this is NOBODIES BUSINESS BUT THE OWNER AND BREEDER. I don't know the full details but of course everybody and their mother on YT has to JUDGE and PUT IN THEIR TWO CENTS.


Comon lay off this lady, she is returning the dog to the breeder, she was trying to find the dog a new home. Its very rude and disrespectful to attack somebody like this, aren't we grown women/men? I'm just embrassed because its the SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ATTACKING PEOPLE!!!!

tuntun 03-19-2011 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 3468968)
Honestly this is NOBODIES BUSINESS BUT THE OWNER AND BREEDER. I don't know the full details but of course everybody and their mother on YT has to JUDGE and PUT IN THEIR TWO CENTS.


Comon lay off this lady, she is returning the dog to the breeder, she was trying to find the dog a new home. Its very rude and disrespectful to attack somebody like this, aren't we grown women/men? I'm just embrassed because its the SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ATTACKING PEOPLE!!!!
Thank you! Somebody understands. Take care!

gemy 03-19-2011 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468963)
Spreading misinformation is technically lying.
Okay Ana Prove that I am spreading misinformation. Post the contract in total here.

You are not here to defend GSD's. But to try somehow to defend your actions. You made a mistake here, thought mayhap no-one would notice your post, but we did, and action was swift.

The pup is back with the breeder where she belongs. All the rest is moot in my opinion.

manolos mom 03-19-2011 04:21 PM
tuntun, I'm glad you gave back the puppy. I know Betty Ann and Vickilyn are happy for that. I'm also glad your life is back to normal. Now let it rest. It's over. Your on a Yorkie Forum where people are passionate about this breed, so you wont win here. Please, have a nice life and Betty Ann and Vickilyn, I'm so happy this baby is back in your possession.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468963)
Spreading misinformation is technically lying.
And again you're calling me a liar and liable.....have you been to my home to call me such?

Mardelin 03-19-2011 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468972)
Okay Ana Prove that I am spreading misinformation. Post the contract in total here.

You are not here to defend GSD's. But to try somehow to defend your actions. You made a mistake here, thought mayhap no-one would notice your post, but we did, and action was swift.

The pup is back with the breeder where she belongs. All the rest is moot in my opinion.
Calling members liars does not fair well.......that standard option has been done twice.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Radclfemnst (Post 3468955)
It is not a nice or mean situation. Some ppl let their passion get the best of them, some forget that a little tact goes a long way, and some just dislike you for any perceived offense :rolleyes: I've been on the brunt end before so take it with a grain of salt and you learn.

Don't reply. Let it go and move on with your GSD. Don't respond to any of the bait and just be happy that you are fine, the dog is fine, and in the end all is well.

I would also suggest that you PM a moderator to close the thread and just delete your account as well. Negativity just breeds more negative.

Love me and my own little rat dog :p
Only the OP has the option to request the thread to be closed.

yorkie_mama22 03-19-2011 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468982)
Calling members liars does not fair well.......that standard option has been done twice.

The pup is back home with the breeder now, why do you always feel the need to keep things going?

I don't know why your always one of the people who have something to say and be so judgemental.

gemy 03-19-2011 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468978)
And again you're calling me a liar and liable.....have you been to my home to call me such?
No I think Mary she is calling me a liar. And I do take umbrage with that.

I have lived my life in the open. If she took the time to look me up here, she would see my associations.

manolos mom 03-19-2011 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22 (Post 3468968)
Honestly this is NOBODIES BUSINESS BUT THE OWNER AND BREEDER. I don't know the full details but of course everybody and their mother on YT has to JUDGE and PUT IN THEIR TWO CENTS.


Comon lay off this lady, she is returning the dog to the breeder, she was trying to find the dog a new home. Its very rude and disrespectful to attack somebody like this, aren't we grown women/men? I'm just embrassed because its the SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ATTACKING PEOPLE!!!!
Remember, she is on an OPEN Yorkie Forum. People are Passionate about this breed. Are you the person that allowed your dog to eat NAIR, and her nose started falling off? Please.....


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