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Mardelin 03-18-2011 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3468215)

I'm not reading this entire post it's upsetting me from page 2 too much...but that's the kind of thing you'd ant to see a reputable breeder have in a contract...it seems to me a last resort insurance policy that they "buyer" (I refer to think adopter) means what they say to the breeder...

TUNtun and everyone else: As far as using someone's real full name in a public forum...there's nothing illegal about it...show me what law you think you are talking about...I hope the buyers legal full names gets spread everywhere over this and they never a get another pup from anyone again...re-homing after three weeks...there are reasons people need to return a pup-whatever-stuff happens-but this all seems well ridiculous too me.

Furthermore: As long as everyone speaks the truth there's not slander and there is also laws regarding and protecting the freedom of information...however it is advised nothing be done that could cause harm to someone, like giving out their address or phone number, place of work etc. Their full legal name is not protected but I imagine YT will do a lil CYA just in case and keep it fro being posted.

I'm sorry I'm also throwing my opinion out there some more...I hope the breeder better screens buyers despite her financial insurance policy in her contract and spends time expressing Yorkie specific issue (I've no idea the breed just reading it all here).

BTW poop eating is only a psychological 'disorder' in older dogs...quite common actually...pups do it quite often...it's call training. Should they buyer ever get another pup I'd hope they'd try that...training.
At this time all is a moot point. The breeder is picking up the lil girl so, why rehash everything.....Breeder and buyer have come to an agreement......

Beamers Mom 03-19-2011 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468228)
At this time all is a moot point. The breeder is picking up the lil girl so, why rehash everything.....Breeder and buyer have come to an agreement......
Maybe the OP could PM Ann or Admin and ask for the thread to be closed.

Ringo1 03-19-2011 06:07 AM
So glad this has all worked out between all parties.

KendraE 03-19-2011 06:26 AM
Hope the sweet baby made it back safely!

Mardelin 03-19-2011 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Beamers Mom (Post 3468461)
Maybe the OP could PM Ann or Admin and ask for the thread to be closed.
Not sure if the exchange was made last night....hoping Gemy/Gail will update us this morning.

gemy 03-19-2011 08:11 AM
Pup is with Vicki safe n sound!!!!!

megansmomma 03-19-2011 08:18 AM
Wonderful! :thumbup: :)

Mardelin 03-19-2011 08:20 AM
Great News.....Thanks Gail.

Beamers Mom 03-19-2011 08:20 AM
So happy to hear this. Thanks Gail:)

Nancy1999 03-19-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468595)
Pup is with Vicki safe n sound!!!!!
Yay, glad everything turned out all right!

AllDogBoots 03-19-2011 09:13 AM
I've been following this thread and am so glad to hear that it turned out well!

chachi 03-19-2011 09:16 AM
Im glad all has turned out well

gemy 03-19-2011 09:55 AM
Thank you all for your caring and a WARNING
 
First I am very happy that things finally got straightened out with this pup, and she is home and secure once more.
I would like to thank everyone for their caring and good wishes.

I won't go into he said/she said, and all the in's and out's of which I'm only partially aware of.

For future purchases of Yorkies from reputable breeders, most if not all good breeders will have a clause in their contract that stipulates the return of the puppy to them or at the minimum requires that they approve a future rehoming. This is a clause that is taken very seriously indeed by breeders. While I can see many purchasers brushing over the contract it is your responsibility to learn the details of said contract, and preferably prior to signing on the dotted line.

For potential buyers of "rehomed" Yorkies, especially those being sold by private parties, I would hope that you would ask a) who the breeder is and b) find out if they have the right to rehome this puppy to you. It is within your right to ask to see "proof" of this right to rehome, by seeing the contract or the agreement to purchase/sell. If the contract is "misplaced or lost", simply contact the breeder to chec k with them

harleyd 03-19-2011 10:18 AM
She's Back
 
I'd like to thank everyone for your warm thoughts.
Roxy is fine.
She did poop in her crate on the way home and I was so proud of her she didn't eat it. !!!!!!!!!!!
What a Good Girl..

Thanks Again

Vicki xo

tuntun 03-19-2011 10:57 AM
She was safe all along... I find it funny that you all think she was in some kind of danger at any point in time... anyway, glad you're all happy. Back to GSDs for us! :thumbup:

Rhetts_mama 03-19-2011 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468669)
First I am very happy that things finally got straightened out with this pup, and she is home and secure once more.
I would like to thank everyone for their caring and good wishes.

I won't go into he said/she said, and all the in's and out's of which I'm only partially aware of.

For future purchases of Yorkies from reputable breeders, most if not all good breeders will have a clause in their contract that stipulates the return of the puppy to them or at the minimum requires that they approve a future rehoming. This is a clause that is taken very seriously indeed by breeders. While I can see many purchasers brushing over the contract it is your responsibility to learn the details of said contract, and preferably prior to signing on the dotted line.

For potential buyers of "rehomed" Yorkies, especially those being sold by private parties, I would hope that you would ask a) who the breeder is and b) find out if they have the right to rehome this puppy to you. It is within your right to ask to see "proof" of this right to rehome, by seeing the contract or the agreement to purchase/sell. If the contract is "misplaced or lost", simply contact the breeder to chec k with them

Very good advice.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by harleyd (Post 3468687)
I'd like to thank everyone for your warm thoughts.
Roxy is fine.
She did poop in her crate on the way home and I was so proud of her she didn't eat it. !!!!!!!!!!!
What a Good Girl..

Thanks Again

Vicki xo
Poop eating is the least of my worries with a pup. It's a behavior that is learned from mom. Then there are those that because they don't like to see their area dirty it is their way of keeping it clean and not leaving their scent. Can it be fixed, absolutely....one just has to be diligent, watching when they poop and cleaning it up immediately. It can also be a nervous issue, unhappy.

It's a joke amongst many of the old time breeders, that if a female is eating poop it's good sign she'll make a good mother......after all doesn't she diaper the pups.

Glad you got her back and she's loved, safe and happy.

lisaly 03-19-2011 11:42 AM
I am so relieved to hear that this little girl is back with someone who loves her dearly. Every baby deserves to be protected, cared for, and loved. When we take one of these babies into our hearts and homes, we do so with a promise to provide the very best and give them the unconditional love that they give us. I have great respect for breeders who put their heart and souls into these babies. This thread is evidence of their love. We have seen breeders on YT who would do anything to provide the love, socialization, and care for these babies so that they will go to their new homes feeling healthy, loved, and secure. It must hurt them so much to give these babies up, but I hope they know the happiness they bring to families who completely adore these babies. I can't imagine not falling madly in love with a little one, no matter what they did. My little Gracie came into our lives when she was a little over six months, and we had to deal with poop issues, too. But she was the most loving and most perfect little girl, and she completely stole our hearts and changed our lives. We worked through things with her and were rewarded with our precious little lovebug and the very best life ever with her. Thank you to those of you who helped Vicki get her little girl back. Someone very lucky will get to share life with this litle girl, and no doubt she will be very, very loved.

concretegurl 03-19-2011 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468228)
At this time all is a moot point. The breeder is picking up the lil girl so, why rehash everything.....Breeder and buyer have come to an agreement......
Oh good! Hopefully if the breeder is a YT member she can direct the new adopter here and we can all see an update after hearing the pups rocky start.:)

If not I'd love to hear updates from those (even second hand) about the pup finding a good forever home. :thumbup:

I wasn't aware I was re-hashing it...just wanted to put out general stuff because people read these forums later...I only found YT buy Googling some specific stuff and inadvertently found a thread on the topic...and well here I am now. Of course I threw in my 2 cents and what little I know as well.:rolleyes:

Gemy I missed your post until I posted-but that was an incredible point to make! Well done!

gemy 03-19-2011 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468725)
She was safe all along... I find it funny that you all think she was in some kind of danger at any point in time... anyway, glad you're all happy. Back to GSDs for us! :thumbup:
Well then you are uniformed. You are a new member to YT, go on here, and your first post is in the For Sale and Wanted Yorkies, offering up a Durrer puppy, to someone you don't know, to a forum you don't know, with no right by contract to do so. Those are the actions of, at the very minimum an uncautious owner. To our eyes, she was in danger indeed, of being rehomed to an inappropriate party, and to be rehomed in violation of contract.

IMHO anyone who could do this, in violation of contract, and certainly without pursuing to the fullest return to your breeder, is someone who does not have the best interest of this precious puppy at heart.

Shame on you.

gemy 03-19-2011 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by harleyd (Post 3468687)
I'd like to thank everyone for your warm thoughts.
Roxy is fine.
She did poop in her crate on the way home and I was so proud of her she didn't eat it. !!!!!!!!!!!
What a Good Girl..

Thanks Again

Vicki xo
So happy Vicki. See you soon

Mardelin 03-19-2011 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3468785)
Oh good! Hopefully if the breeder is a YT member she can direct the new adopter here and we can all see an update after hearing the pups rocky start.:)

If not I'd love to hear updates from those (even second hand) about the pup finding a good forever home. :thumbup:

I wasn't aware I was re-hashing it...just wanted to put out general stuff because people read these forums later...I only found YT buy Googling some specific stuff and inadvertently found a thread on the topic...and well here I am now. Of course I threw in my 2 cents and what little I know as well.:rolleyes:

Gemy I missed your post until I posted-but that was an incredible point to make! Well done!
Just trying to keep everything calm until the pup was retained.

concretegurl 03-19-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3468804)
Just trying to keep everything calm until the pup was retained.
:rolleyes: Sometimes I really should read a thread all the way through before I post...thanks for the updates!

Diapering dams...LOL...:p

TexasKat08 03-19-2011 12:50 PM
So relieved for the happy outcome!

Beamers Mom 03-19-2011 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468787)
Well then you are uniformed. You are a new member to YT, go on here, and your first post is in the For Sale and Wanted Yorkies, offering up a Durrer puppy, to someone you don't know, to a forum you don't know, with no right by contract to do so. Those are the actions of, at the very minimum an uncautious owner. To our eyes, she was in danger indeed, of being rehomed to an inappropriate party, and to be rehomed in violation of contract.

IMHO anyone who could do this, in violation of contract, and certainly without pursuing to the fullest return to your breeder, is someone who does not have the best interest of this precious puppy at heart.

Shame on you.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

ladyjane 03-19-2011 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 3468725)
She was safe all along... I find it funny that you all think she was in some kind of danger at any point in time... anyway, glad you're all happy. Back to GSDs for us! :thumbup:
I have followed this thread from the beginning. I also had seen the other thread where you said you were selling that pup. I was alarmed by your comments and had asked a couple of people if the breeder was aware and was assured that she was being contacted which is exactly what should have happened. I have to say that I was horrified when someone told me that you had specifically messaged them to ask if they wanted to purchase the pup.
Perhaps you think she was safe all along....I would think that if you felt coming online to solicit buyers was safe, that you must live in an extremely naive world.
I am very happy that she is where she belongs now.
I saw a remark from you about sticking with GSDs...I think if you find dog behaviors as disturbing as you seem to, that perhaps a live dog is not really for you.

concretegurl 03-19-2011 02:09 PM
:yeahthat: GSD's eat poop too...

Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3468830)
I have followed this thread from the beginning. I also had seen the other thread where you said you were selling that pup. I was alarmed by your comments and had asked a couple of people if the breeder was aware and was assured that she was being contacted which is exactly what should have happened. I have to say that I was horrified when someone told me that you had specifically messaged them to ask if they wanted to purchase the pup.
Perhaps you think she was safe all along....I would think that if you felt coming online to solicit buyers was safe, that you must live in an extremely naive world.
I am very happy that she is where she belongs now.
I saw a remark from you about sticking with GSDs...I think if you find dog behaviors as disturbing as you seem to, that perhaps a live dog is not really for you.

ladyjane 03-19-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3468868)
:yeahthat: GSD's eat poop too...
Oh, yeah...and it is bigger. :eek::eek::eek:

lisaly 03-19-2011 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3468787)
Well then you are uniformed. You are a new member to YT, go on here, and your first post is in the For Sale and Wanted Yorkies, offering up a Durrer puppy, to someone you don't know, to a forum you don't know, with no right by contract to do so. Those are the actions of, at the very minimum an uncautious owner. To our eyes, she was in danger indeed, of being rehomed to an inappropriate party, and to be rehomed in violation of contract.

IMHO anyone who could do this, in violation of contract, and certainly without pursuing to the fullest return to your breeder, is someone who does not have the best interest of this precious puppy at heart.

Shame on you.
Truly a great post, but it doesn't surprise me. You always speak with such love of these pups and with great insight. I have learned so much about Yorkies from you, but that was just the beginning.

Mardelin 03-19-2011 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3468871)
Oh, yeah...and it is bigger. :eek::eek::eek:
Yep! and you have to carry a bit shove....not a pooper scooper.


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