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Old 06-24-2011, 07:34 PM   #31
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People sould be concerned with what does someone do about a problem, do they do their best to take care of it? How are the dogs cared for, how do they live, are they clean and do NOT live in cages, and ARE in a clean home, do you go to their home and have all the dogs all over you, happy, and obviously treated properly?? These things should be more important than bashing those that are not told of a problem and given the chance to take care of it..I have beem to that home and know first hand how these babies are kept and treated, and I know they come from the best breeder
So glad to see you're so concerned. Please refrain from attacking members.

I personally would be concerned about a breeder who doesn't have her lines properly tested for neurologic disorders and other genetic diseases. Perhaps no one would have had to go through all this suffering if that had been done.
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Genetic testing is done by excellent breeders who care about only producing healthy puppies. You will NOT find puppy mills or bybers doing this. To think that they care enough to put that kind of money in preserving the breed is a real Joke.

I, personally, am more comfortable with a breeder who ensures a pup is healthy BEFORE breeding the first time instead of choosing not to "rebreed" an unhealthy dog. Many issues take years to develop, what about the puppies that are born in the meantime.

Just becaue it may not be what the majority does certainly doesn't make it the best or prefered way for the breed.
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So you think that is what MOST breeders do??? You are a prime example of those that know nothing, I have bought dogs allllllllllll my life, I am almost 70, not 1 has EVER come to me having had that done. You are a joke, no one does that, never heard of it in my life that this is what they do, are you KIDDING? Yes, I am very concerned and know that no one can know things that may happen to a dog, and this is a learning process and you don't rebreed a dog you know has problems..You do right by the buyer and try to make things right... Not 1 dog has ever ever ever had any tests done that I or ANY of my 3 children have EVER bought.If you think they all do that or that is what should be done, I guess it would be mandatory..I guess if you do that but have dogs in cages and have a puppy mill it's ok, you are a JOKE.
Sadly, no most breeders do not do any testing on their pups. Luckily members here on YT are here to educate potential buyers to use Reputable breeders who Will do the right thing and who Will do the right testing.
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Is my profile picture not showing up? Did you take a moment to look at my album? I am NOT a breeder and I am a normal person. Go to modern dog magazine and search " Shiloh" go to bark magazine and do the same, ( he won the weekly smilers contest May 16th of this year). I promise you I am not a liar and totally honest. I never intended to even come off like this. I just miss my baby!
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Is my profile picture not showing up? Did you take a moment to look at my album? I am NOT a breeder and I am a normal person. Go to modern dog magazine and search " Shiloh" go to bark magazine and do the same, ( he won the weekly smilers contest May 16th of this year). I promise you I am not a liar and totally honest. I never intended to even come off like this. I just miss my baby!
So sorry about the loss of your baby. It's amazing how quickly these little ones work their way in to our hearts.

As far as your profile picture goes, you will need to make sure it is sized properly for an avatar- you can google "resize pictures for several free sites to do that). Once you've done that, make sure you hit the save changes button after you upload the avatar in the control panel.

Welcome to YT, I wish it were under better circumstances.
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I just tried to resize and it is still not showing up....goodness:-(( I did post pics of my beloved Shiloh in my album. He was such an amazing Biewer. I loved him more than life itself and still do. Thanks for all the support. You all have GORGEOUS dogs! I a
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Thanks for your kind words on other people who have lost a dog.
I never ever said anything bad or mean. Give me a break, I just lost the love
Of my life , my son , not my dog. I am so grief stricken .
Blaming someone is not the answer ; I love the breeder I just simply
Said I lost my child. I am a proud mom , my Shiloh was featured in magazines and treat bags! I was Blessed to have him!! Sorry if I upset anyone:-((
I am only upset that you lost you best little buddy too soon. Poor baby not even two years old. Buster will be turning two this month and I was so sad thinking how I would feel if I lost him. My deepest sympathies to you on the loss of your little fur angel. I hope time eases your pain and someday you find another little boy to fill you life with unconditional love again. Big hugs.
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OK I am officially freaking out.

I got my Merlin from this breeder and he is now at 5 months and starting to have health issues.

I posted about it in the health section if you guys want to read it. I'm so scared now for my baby.
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OK I am officially freaking out.

I got my Merlin from this breeder and he is now at 5 months and starting to have health issues.

I posted about it in the health section if you guys want to read it. I'm so scared now for my baby.
Sorry. What kind of health issues?
Did you contact Terry yet?
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I NEED to UPDATE you all on my Shiloh's passing.I did not get any results on what the cause of my Shiloh's passing was; but even though I did not have the official results( the vets could not figure it out) the breeder Terry gave me a beautiful little boy Biewer Yorkie with open arms. She was so kind and caring about the whole thing and still cared enough to give me Jonah(his pictures are on my site). Terry is a very nice woman and feel bad about the whole thing. Neither her nor I could of predicted this and it is no ones fault. These things are rare and unfortunately it happened to me. On a positive note I have 2 Biewers from her Sophie and Jonah and they are both very healthy and great dogs. Jonah is 2 pounds at 4 months old and sweet as pie. Sophie is the nicest dog I have ever had besides Shiloh lol. This issue needed to be addressed because It is not fair to Terry for any potential clients to think her dogs are not healthy. This was a rare case and I WOULD buy and suggest her as a breeder. Please email me if you have any questions. Please look at my photo's to see Jonah.
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As i mentioned in my most recent post although my vet thought it was a heart issue the final result was inconclusive. Terry is a nice woman and she did help me the best she could after all was said and done. She is a great breeder and this is a total total sad and rare thing.
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Glad you can vouch for her personality.

Did you look her up on here?

A LOT of sick dogs from her Parti lines (LS & neurological issues) and now her Biewer lines from people all over kind of makes me wonder personally. Do a search and contact the OP's like I did.

Well that and my Elvis having serious health issues, epilepsy, arthritis genetic disorders.

I was very taken back by her conflicting response to her breeding and lack of caring as to him being rehomed, to me from the lady she sold him to (for breeding according to Elaine Shelborne).

It is shocking to me she didn't care he was used for breeding, poorly cared for and well anything to do with a dog she bred to produce, maybe she does and it was just an awkward situation for her-wish she'd join YT and put her side out there; but maybe that's just me.

Please feel free to pass on my profile to her so she can see Elvis (life of the Parti boy) is still alive being treated properly (now) and receiving the medical attention he needs. Maybe if her response was based on it being an awkward situation she might want to see without notice.

I'd assume if you breed dogs and take such pride in your line(s) you'd care how the offspring are treated, whom has them, and about their futures-even after you have sold them. If I was a breeder I'd want continual updates on all my previous dogs, and have a re-homing clause' in sales contracts. Again that's just my perspective though.
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After thought: genetic testing on "breeding stock" OFA chic certfication, re-homing (resale) clause, thoroughly screening buyers, only selling on pet only limited registration with spay/neuter in adopt contract-this should be a basic minimum breeders already have in place, and a contract that defines it all and has clear expectations, terms & resulting actions of default by both patri's.
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Terry was my Haley's breeder. When Haley first came to me she got sick and I took her to our after hours clinic and they told me she had luxating patellas. When Terry found this out she contacted me directly and offered to help in any way if this were true. She did not offer to replace her, she offered to pay for surgery or any expense related to it. She also asked if I thought it was too much for me to handle to let her buy Haley back from me. I was totally impressed by everything she did because she did not have to do any of it. She cried with me and contacted me many times during the day while I was trying to find out what really was going on. Haley turned out to not have the luxating patellas as the dr had said, she also did not have the other problem they had said (I cannot remember what they called it). Haley is the most spoiled, vocal, overbearing little diva that I have ever seen, and she came to me that way. I have a friend who got a puppy from Terry and she flew into the airport and hand delivered.
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Wow. I just got a 4 page email from Elaine Shelborne Shelborne's Yorkies
threatening to at some point sue me for defamation (people really need to look at the definition of defamation) after she raises enough money to do so...(from breeding? I wonder)...I had considered this a lesson learned about how to buy your breeder and not the dog, but looks like we'll resolve it in litigation.

I'll update as it progresses, perhaps it will be educational for others-as long as admin. clears me posting it all here.

Of course since this is a public forum private information regarding both of our basic right to privacy and personal safety will be omitted.

In a way I'm very interested in seeing what she'll actually claim in the court documentation and damages (I wonder the amounts she's trying to say she's out over this that I now owe her).

Anyone who is in contact with Terry-I haven't addressed her in any way other than initial contact over Elvi's health so why Elaine feels I need to blame Terry and seek something from her, well that's not going to happen my issue is strictly with Elaine. What happens between the two of them is between the two of them.
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