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Old 02-22-2011, 05:05 PM   #1
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Hubby just fed Izzy and hger yorkie friend RAISINS!!!! I'm really scared... How toxic are they and should I make them puke? They ate about 3 jumbo raisins!!
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:13 PM   #2
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Did he just give them a few? Read this - concerning large amounts eaten:

Apparently, grapes and raisins can be toxic to dogs when ingested in large quantities. The grapes and raisins came from varied sources, including being eaten off the vine directly. The dogs exhibited gastrointestinal signs including vomiting and diarrhea and then signs of kidney failure with an onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the grapes or raisins. The amount of grapes eaten varied between 9oz. and 2 lbs., which worked out to be between 0.41 and 1.1 oz/kg of body weight. Two dogs died directly from the toxicity, three were euthanized due to poor response to treatment and five dogs lived. Due to the severity of the signs and the potential for death, the veterinarians as the poison control center advocate aggressive treatment for any dogs suggested of ingesting excessive amounts of grapes or raisins, including inducing vomiting, stomach lavage (stomach pumping) and administration of activated charcoal, followed by intravenous fluid therapy for at least 48 hours or as indicated based on the results of blood tests for kidney damage.

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Never mind. I just saw that he gave them 3. I don't know what "jumbo" raisins are. I don't recall ever seeing any.
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They are like the size of Dried Cherries.... Alittle bigger then a dime
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I'm no expert, but that doesn't seem like an excessive amount. I would've been concerned too, after I bopped DH on the head!
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They are like the size of Dried Cherries.... Alittle bigger then a dime
That doesn't sound like an excessive amount to me, either. From the amount described in the quote from the website, it doesn't even sound close. As long as they are acting ok, I doubt if they're any worse for the diet your husband gave them. I agree about bopping your husband on the head though. Print out a list of what they cannot eat or keep it simple for him and give him a shorter list of what he can give them.
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Yeah I let him have it.... He LOVES Izzy to death nd he normally is really good about not giving her things like that..But he was eating this gormet trial mix my mom got him, and there he was... "one bite for Izzy n Jasper and 1 bite for him" Until i screamed at him and freaked out..lol..
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Yeah I let him have it.... He LOVES Izzy to death nd he normally is really good about not giving her things like that..But he was eating this gormet trial mix my mom got him, and there he was... "one bite for Izzy n Jasper and 1 bite for him" Until i screamed at him and freaked out..lol..

Awww! SO cute!! Hope your babies are doing fine! If it comforts you, when I didn't know grapes were bad, I gave one to my babies before. Luckily nothing happened and I found out soon afterwards. I felt super guilty, but THANK GOD that nothing happened to them.
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I'd just watch her for signs of vomiting and diarrhea but I seriously doubt a few will poison her. My sister fed her yorkie a few one time...before she knew they were toxic....her yorkie was completely fine.
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LOL.. Yeah he feels pretty bad...She "SOOOO" has him wrapped arond her little paw..lol
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Mine survived a few stray grapes before...I'd watch for signs of sickness since it was only three, jumbo or not...just in case they did effect your dogs.

But if it was like a box of raisin or something in a worrying amount I'd be out the door to animal ER...

Just saw a friend on facebook's post, her dog was chewing some acorns and died later than night...OAK IS TOXIC TO DOGS...she only chewed a few acorns...and then they went to bed I guess or left the house for a bit-it was hard to understand she's well very emotional posting about what happened-understandably-anyways they weren't observing her for a reaction...they didn't realize (oak) acorns were dangerous.

So I'd be leery to watch carefully for any sign of sickness regardless.

Don't mean to freak you out though...just be cautious and aware.

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I posted on your other thread, but wanted to show you a link. The cases reported are usually those where the dog ate quite a few, but that doesn't mean a lesser quantity is safe.

Are Grapes and Raisins Really Toxic?

The lowest estimated toxic dose here is 10-12 grapes for a 20 pound dog. That is 1 grape for every two pounds. So an average size Yorkie would need to eat 2-3 grapes to cause concern (generally). Raisins are more concentrated than grapes. So yes, vomiting should have been induced.

Ellie has had many raisins before I knew better. Never caused a problem. Not all dogs react to them. But if it were to happen now, vomiting would be induced. If I couldn't get to her in time, an ER vet would be contacted and asked to look up the toxic amount in their toxicology textbook. JMO.
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Just seeing this. Anytime you have a question about toxicity it is best to call an Emergency Vet Clinic.
To the OP: I know it is past the event now, but I would definitely take my pup in to the vet for an exam.
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Just for my own education, thanks for posting the weight to raisins/grapes ratio point! That's really important to know especially since many people have small Yorkies...
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Thanks everyone.. I did call the Vet last night because I just didnt feel right about the whole thing... She said that izzy and jasper should be fine for the night and that amount should not hurt her... She was going to call me again this morning to see how they were. thanks so much
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