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nitt001 12-31-2010 08:39 AM

1st time BREEDER
 
Hi all....

we have a female yorkie ( Maisey) shes a very small terrier with a big personality, 14 month old and had her first season quite a few month ago, and we think shell be ready for her second season soon.

shes fit and healthy in every way.

so, we want to breed her but since this is our first time as well as hers...... any advice people...... we will probably be getting a stud for now, and want to do things right.

any things we should get in/ready

does the dog stay here and if so how long do we have the dog and well tell me what you know would be easier ...

thanks

nitt

bailie 12-31-2010 11:28 AM

i thought the yorkie should be at least 2 years old before breeding, and depends on her size and weight, im not a breeder, there are breeders on here which will give you good advise, i would never put my girl through that, there is so much can go wrong, and a lot of heartbreaking stories on here , wish you all the best and happy new year to you and your little girl:D

Beamers Mom 12-31-2010 11:34 AM

There are many experienced breeder in this section

Breeder Talk - YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

But, why on earth do you want to breed her? Breeding Yorkies is not easy. Too many things that could go wrong, plus to breed right is very very expensive.

Rhetts_mama 12-31-2010 11:35 AM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...t-breeder.html

Ringo1 12-31-2010 11:36 AM

What I know would be easier on both of you is not to breed her at all. Keep her as your beautiful, princess, pet and don't endanger her life or the lives of her unborn puppies.

Take a stroll through the Breeder forum and see what heartaches are just waiting to happen.

Lizzie07 12-31-2010 11:41 AM

This thread really belongs in the breeder section.

Furbaby Friend 12-31-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzie07 (Post 3375626)
This thread really belongs in the breeder section.

Agreed.

FlDebra 12-31-2010 08:50 PM

[quote: ]"Hi all....

we have a female yorkie ( Maisey) shes a very small terrier with a big personality, 14 month old and had her first season quite a few month ago, and we think shell be ready for her second season soon.

shes fit and healthy in every way.

so, we want to breed her but since this is our first time as well as hers...... any advice people...... we will probably be getting a stud for now, and want to do things right.

any things we should get in/ready

does the dog stay here and if so how long do we have the dog and well tell me what you know would be easier ...

thanks nitt " [/quote]
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You had posted that she was 9 months old in September of this year. Is she 14 months old now? Math not adding up. How long ago did she have her first heat? Second heat and close to 2 years old is usually used as a time frame.

You also say she is very small -- how small is that? YTCA suggests prospective dams be at LEAST 5 pounds. Then there are other considerations. Does she meet AKC standards? Best to have an experienced exhibitor/breeder check her out as they know better what they are looking for. We are not always as subjective with our own pups as we should be.

You say she is fit and healthy in every way. Has she been health tested for BAT, OFA (joints & heart), and CERF (eyes)? Has she had a full work up to include blood panel? They normally will do blood tests to check liver, kidney, thyroid, blood counts & glucose. Then you need to get her checked for STDs and make sure the male is tested for all of these as well. What sort of pedigree are you looking at? What are the health histories of her dam & sire? What about other puppies in those litters? You want to be looking for any potential genetic problems in other litters.

Keep in mind the expenses required for all of this testing, as well as xrays, and pregnancy checks, possible C-section, vet fees can quadruple if a problem arises during delivery or after. There is always a very real possibility of eclampsia, torn uterus, retained puppy, incomplete after-birth expulsion, etc..... so many things can go wrong.

You need to spend a year or two studying everything you can get your hands on about Yorkshire Terrier breeding, whelping, and puppies. See if you can find a mentor that will let you watch as she whelps a litter. See if she would be willing to stand by when you whelp your first litter. Make sure you are well-prepared in case something goes wrong -- because it can so very quickly with these toy breeds. Look into the eyes of your girl -- can you live with risking her very life for breeding? Even taking all of the precautions, studying to be prepared, still..... the horrible can and does happen. You could lose your girl and all of her puppies.

DvlshAngel985 12-31-2010 09:52 PM

Great suggestions Deb! I just want to point out, the OP is from across the pond.

FlDebra 12-31-2010 11:30 PM

"Great suggestions Deb! I just want to point out, the OP is from across the pond. "
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Anyone else having trouble with their QUOTE button? My quotes are not showing up so I have to go back & do a copy & paste. Ah well...

Thanks for pointing out to me that the OP is from "across the pond!"

Sorry I made the "assume" mistake and listed AKC in my previous post. Hopefully it will all still make sense and you can fill in UKC where I had put AKC. I am not sure what your parent breed club acronym is-- but pls replace YTCA with your UK breed club name. I really need to pay closer attention to details! :)

Happy New Year to all on both sides of the pond! :)

gemy 01-01-2011 07:36 AM

Debra England's club is called: The Kennel Club

concretegurl 01-01-2011 07:48 AM

Kennel Club Online Services
Go there.
Defra, UK
Also go here...unlike American England has very strict breeding laws-sorry I couldn't provide a better site my browser is blocking half the actualy government sites in England...I can Pm you some contact information for a couple Yorkie breeders over there most don't recommend breeding (despite 1 year being the law there) until a female is 3 at least usually almost 4 years old...let alone even a hobby breeder needs a license there...I tried to show that specific but can't get on the government site.

gemy 01-01-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitt001 (Post 3375479)
Hi all....

we have a female yorkie ( Maisey) shes a very small terrier with a big personality, 14 month old and had her first season quite a few month ago, and we think shell be ready for her second season soon.

shes fit and healthy in every way.

so, we want to breed her but since this is our first time as well as hers...... any advice people...... we will probably be getting a stud for now, and want to do things right.

any things we should get in/ready

does the dog stay here and if so how long do we have the dog and well tell me what you know would be easier ...

thanks

nitt

The very first thing you will need is to find a mentor now, and to spend the next 3-5 yrs studying up on breeding, assisting in a whelp or two, and have your breeding stock evaluated.

Whilst I know The Kennel Club is strangely silent on what health tests should be done for Yorkies, as you know or (should know) this breed does have some serious health concerns.

In the USA and Canada there are a series of tests that are done, which Debra elaborated on in her previous post.

Take some time to read through the Breeders Section, and the Sick and Emergency section to familiarize yourself with some of the horror stories that is often the result of poor breeding practices, and inexperience.

Take your time with this decision of yours, truly evaluate your reasons for breeding, the fitness of both yourself and your girl for this task.

Welcome to YT

gemy 01-01-2011 07:54 AM

An introduction to dog breeding - The Kennel Club


Here is the link to the kennel club : Responsible breeding practices.

Woogie Man 01-01-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3376372)
Kennel Club Online Services
Go there.
Defra, UK
Also go here...unlike American England has very strict breeding laws-sorry I couldn't provide a better site my browser is blocking half the actualy government sites in England...I can Pm you some contact information for a couple Yorkie breeders over there most don't recommend breeding (despite 1 year being the law there) until a female is 3 at least usually almost 4 years old...let alone even a hobby breeder needs a license there...I tried to show that specific but can't get on the government site.

Most breeders would say to breed a girl by 3 years old if breeding. After that time, the uterus becomes less elastic and the pelvic bones will have set, making a first pregnancy after that time risky for the female. I don't like breeding a girl before 2 years old, due to maturity issues, but certainly before 3.

I'm saying this for general information only.


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