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topknot · 11-01-2005, 05:50 PM

"She does not want to show her dogs. they are AKC registered. she said that she registered her past litters with AKC but buyers were wanting a show puppy but did not have any intention on showing the pup therefore she NOW just registers her litters with CKC.
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*DeKetra & Albert* "

That still doesn't make sense - the buyers wanted a show puppy but had no intention to show - so the breeder went to CKC? CKC doesn't show yorkies for confirmation, so why would she go to a kennel club that doesn't show at all! If she wanted the people to show - she should have a contract and state that they would have to show. That doesn't always guarantee they will show. But her answer - just sent a red flag because she doesn't seem to know what she is talking about or is trying to give you a load of you know what to get you to believe her to buy one of her dogs.

YorkieRose - you are so right! You go girl! I have heard the same from my club members at our meetings.

T.

YorkieRose · 11-01-2005, 06:05 PM

Robbie...I am the first to admit I am a registration snob..I can be very open minded in many areas, but this gets to me because so many breeders lie about why they use a non-AKC registry.
If I was buying a pet, registry would mean nothing to me...infact I would not care if it had papers at all. What it looked like and it's personality would be all that counted. Best wishes

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 06:12 PM

registration snobs are ok with me, LOL
i was one of them at one time... i've just changed a little over time. i am still a snob in general when it comes to yorkies...and i am sure you can relate to that! i'm as snobby as they come when it pertains to my babies. probably another of my down falls....lol pat, i love reading your posts. you are the first one i look for each day.

luv4yorkies · 11-01-2005, 06:27 PM

I was just wondering what is wrong with her now regeristering her pups with CkC if they are pet only and no one wants to show them. But just as someone said earlier since all her breeding dogs are AKC registered the pup can still be correct.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 06:34 PM

since they're not showing them i dont guess there's anything wrong with it.
i just dont understand fully why she changed registries if she has 2 akc parents. why was that nesessery?

luv4yorkies · 11-01-2005, 06:42 PM

[QUOTE=yorkiemom1970]since they're not showing them i dont guess there's anything wrong with it.
i just dont understand fully why she changed registries if she has 2 akc parents. why was that nesessery?[/QUOTE

I do believe she did not fully change registries her parents are both AKC and CKC. But I wanted to know if it sounded okay for her to register a litter with only CKC if the pup is for a pet only. I guess there are alot of red flags afterall.

yorkiemom1970 · 11-01-2005, 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=luv4yorkies]

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

since they're not showing them i dont guess there's anything wrong with it.
i just dont understand fully why she changed registries if she has 2 akc parents. why was that nesessery?[/QUOTE

I do believe she did not fully change registries her parents are both AKC and CKC. But I wanted to know if it sounded okay for her to register a litter with only CKC if the pup is for a pet only. I guess there are alot of red flags afterall.

i don't see anything wrong. if this is a baby you want, then i say go for it if the price is ok with you and you have a good idea where and how the babies are raised. keep us posted.

CherOKchic · 11-01-2005, 11:02 PM

Also check to see if she has been suspended from AKC for some reason...you can call them or there is a website to check. Sorry I don't have the link right now but search YT, and try "Breeder Suspension List" in google or other search engine.
And ask for some recent references...
Good luck and keep us posted, look forward to "meeting" your new baby soon!

suz · 11-01-2005, 11:42 PM

I don't know if this is actually true or not, but I have been informed (by a person at AKC) that if a pup is registered with the AKC, it can also be registered with the CKC, but nor the other way around. Meaning that the CKC recogonizes (sp) the AKC, but the AKC does not recognozie the CKC. I don't know what the cost difference is, but the $15.00 AKC registration doesn't sound to expensive to me. I register my "litters" with the AKC. The AKC does a great job with keeping records and such. I don't know what kind of "customer satisifaction" (for lack of better wording) the CKC gives. There are a few questionable things the AKC does, but for the most part, they're good.
Suz

BamaFan121s · 11-02-2005, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

I dont know why but I know a few people that just go with The CKC . When I ask why they say its cheaper?

Our pups are both registered with CKC. (One parent AKC and CKC, one parent CKC only.) Reason being is because when I was looking for a pup and picked Trixie, I did just that, I picked Trixie , not her papers. Don't get me wrong, we still looked into here geneology, but I picked her because she was what I wanted, so were her parents and her grandparents...the breeder had them all.

BamaFan121s · 11-02-2005, 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=yorkiemom1970] i have heard so many times in posts and reading on web sites that ckc isnt worth the paper they are written on. QUOTE]

Of course they're not worth anything if you come accross a dishonest breeder. But then again, the same could be said for AKC, now couldn't it?

tartisst · 11-02-2005, 08:07 AM

The breeder is sounding "throwed off" to me.

What difference does it make if someone wanted show quality as a pet only? I thought AKC was to register purebred dogs? And I just registered my puppy Jagger and for $37 it got him his AKC papers and a life-long enrollment in the Lost Dog Reward Recovery Program..a minimal fee indeed.

I think she didn't know what she was talking about and thought you wouldn't know either.

topknot · 11-02-2005, 03:59 PM

It really doesn't matter if she uses AKC or CKC. That is her preference. But the point is that her explanation of why she changed is not adding up - it doesn't make sense. Just sounds fishy to me! Have you asked her to clearify more? Best of luck.
There are honest breeders out there that will be upfront with their buyers. And if this one sounds fishy - what else is she not being honest with.
You will find the right baby for you.

T.

BamaFan121s · 11-02-2005, 07:16 PM

Well said topknot.

luv4yorkies · 11-02-2005, 07:32 PM

okay i also know that she has not been suspended from the AKC list. but i just found what she said weird that's all thanks for all the advice.

11-01-2005, 06:05 PM	#17
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	opinions Robbie...I am the first to admit I am a registration snob..I can be very open minded in many areas, but this gets to me because so many breeders lie about why they use a non-AKC registry. If I was buying a pet, registry would mean nothing to me...infact I would not care if it had papers at all. What it looked like and it's personality would be all that counted. Best wishes

11-01-2005, 11:02 PM	#23
CherOKchic Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 63	Also check to see if she has been suspended from AKC for some reason...you can call them or there is a website to check. Sorry I don't have the link right now but search YT, and try "Breeder Suspension List" in google or other search engine. And ask for some recent references... Good luck and keep us posted, look forward to "meeting" your new baby soon! __________________ CherOKchic Bentley's mommy

11-02-2005, 08:07 AM	#27
tartisst Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 249	The breeder is sounding "throwed off" to me. What difference does it make if someone wanted show quality as a pet only? I thought AKC was to register purebred dogs? And I just registered my puppy Jagger and for $37 it got him his AKC papers and a life-long enrollment in the Lost Dog Reward Recovery Program..a minimal fee indeed. I think she didn't know what she was talking about and thought you wouldn't know either. __________________ Blessed to be a blessing, Tia Jett and (R.I.P. TO MY 4 : Jagger , Tyson , Coty & Conan)

11-01-2005, 05:50 PM	#16
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	"She does not want to show her dogs. they are AKC registered. she said that she registered her past litters with AKC but buyers were wanting a show puppy but did not have any intention on showing the pup therefore she NOW just registers her litters with CKC. __________________ DeKetra & Albert " That still doesn't make sense - the buyers wanted a show puppy but had no intention to show - so the breeder went to CKC? CKC doesn't show yorkies for confirmation, so why would she go to a kennel club that doesn't show at all! If she wanted the people to show - she should have a contract and state that they would have to show. That doesn't always guarantee they will show. But her answer - just sent a red flag because she doesn't seem to know what she is talking about or is trying to give you a load of you know what to get you to believe her to buy one of her dogs. YorkieRose - you are so right! You go girl! I have heard the same from my club members at our meetings. T.

11-01-2005, 06:12 PM	#18
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	registration snobs are ok with me, LOL i was one of them at one time... i've just changed a little over time. i am still a snob in general when it comes to yorkies...and i am sure you can relate to that! i'm as snobby as they come when it pertains to my babies. probably another of my down falls....lol pat, i love reading your posts. you are the first one i look for each day.

11-01-2005, 06:27 PM	#19
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	I was just wondering what is wrong with her now regeristering her pups with CkC if they are pet only and no one wants to show them. But just as someone said earlier since all her breeding dogs are AKC registered the pup can still be correct.

11-01-2005, 06:34 PM	#20
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	since they're not showing them i dont guess there's anything wrong with it. i just dont understand fully why she changed registries if she has 2 akc parents. why was that nesessery?

11-01-2005, 06:42 PM	#21
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	[QUOTE=yorkiemom1970]since they're not showing them i dont guess there's anything wrong with it. i just dont understand fully why she changed registries if she has 2 akc parents. why was that nesessery?[/QUOTE I do believe she did not fully change registries her parents are both AKC and CKC. But I wanted to know if it sounded okay for her to register a litter with only CKC if the pup is for a pet only. I guess there are alot of red flags afterall.

11-01-2005, 11:42 PM	#24
suz Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 741	I don't know if this is actually true or not, but I have been informed (by a person at AKC) that if a pup is registered with the AKC, it can also be registered with the CKC, but nor the other way around. Meaning that the CKC recogonizes (sp) the AKC, but the AKC does not recognozie the CKC. I don't know what the cost difference is, but the $15.00 AKC registration doesn't sound to expensive to me. I register my "litters" with the AKC. The AKC does a great job with keeping records and such. I don't know what kind of "customer satisifaction" (for lack of better wording) the CKC gives. There are a few questionable things the AKC does, but for the most part, they're good. Suz

11-02-2005, 06:15 AM	#26
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	[QUOTE=yorkiemom1970] i have heard so many times in posts and reading on web sites that ckc isnt worth the paper they are written on. QUOTE] Of course they're not worth anything if you come accross a dishonest breeder. But then again, the same could be said for AKC, now couldn't it?

11-02-2005, 03:59 PM	#28
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	It really doesn't matter if she uses AKC or CKC. That is her preference. But the point is that her explanation of why she changed is not adding up - it doesn't make sense. Just sounds fishy to me! Have you asked her to clearify more? Best of luck. There are honest breeders out there that will be upfront with their buyers. And if this one sounds fishy - what else is she not being honest with. You will find the right baby for you. T.

11-02-2005, 07:16 PM	#29
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Well said topknot.

11-02-2005, 07:32 PM	#30
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	okay i also know that she has not been suspended from the AKC list. but i just found what she said weird that's all thanks for all the advice.