puppies soon!

[gemy]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I had Daisy xrayed today! She is expecting 4 furbabies. She is due Saturday...we have our fingers crossed for a save, short whelp.
Felicity's babies are doing well they are 9 days old. The puggy boy is 8 1/4oz, the girls are 7oz each! they are growing quickly and should open there eyes soon enough.
This is so exciting for us to have 2 litters at the same time. Hopefully i can make some great connections here on YT for their forever homes. I am so picky and will hate to let them go. But for now Im going to enjoy every minute of these little fur puffs!
Melissa

Melissa, I've seen your prior posts. Only to talk about breeding to ask questions thereof and to rarely if ever give back to this community.

Why would, and should you expect "great" connections here to sell your pups of dubious origin, and dubious health, given you've not posted all the health checks and research you have done on your breeding lines.

You are so picky just exactly about what? The lines you have exhaustively researched prior to breeding? All the health checks you've done. The latest on puppy rearing to insure proper temperament, health and drive. The 10 year health guarantee you give against all Yorkie known health concerns; such as LS LP 3/4/5, PRA, LEGSS Perth, the list goes on.

You are either pretty audacious to post in this way, or my favourite just totally clueless.

[felicity1008]

Originally Posted by Reese1

I'm not a breeder, never have been and never could be!
What is your motivation for breeding?



I'm getting all my info from all of your previous posts. The point is if you purchased puppies from unethical breeders that are puppy mills/brokers and you were told lies.
If you aren't even sure if one of them is a full blooded Yorkie and you never received papers on.
If you purchased a male that was sick for quite awhile after you purchased him.
Why wouldn't you make them wonderful pets? Why would you want to breed knowing the breeders they came from?

If you want to be a breeder, again what is your motivation?
If it's not for money and it's for the betterment of the breed, wouldn't you want to breed with the best representation of the breed?
By your own admission that isn't what you got!

If you are well off, then why did you buy from the places you did?
You said in a previous post that you know a YTCA breeder, but it's hard to get puppies for full registration. Why wouldn't the YTCA breeder you know sell you puppies?
It should be hard, but instead of buying the best of the breed since it's hard, you buy from unethical breeders, so you can breed? Why?

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

I think perhaps you meant "condemned," not "condoned."

There is a reason why REPUTABLE breeders will not sell full registrations to people they don't know. It's because they don't want to see their dogs end up in the hands of someone breeding haphazardly.

No one is blaming you for being lied to...but that doesn't justify breeding dogs with unknown backgrounds, no matter how you put it. No one is saying that you have to breed for show...but you have NO IDEA what is lurking in the lines of these dogs. You have no idea what you could be passing on to future pups. "Full health clearance?" Super. What about your male and female's parents? Their siblings?
A DNA test only tells who the parents of the dogs are, nothing more. That doesn't mean they are healthy enough to breed. As mentioned, a DNA test and being told they are healthy by your vet does NOT mean they are good candidates for breeding.

Situations like this is why we see so much heartache like this:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...hunt-baby.html
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...te-calvin.html

Bottom line is, you are breeding unregistered mill dogs that may or may not be full Yorkie....based on what YOU have posted. There is no way to justify that, no matter how hard you try.

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

Bull puckey!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

What papers do you have if they aren't AKC?

And if you aren't breeding for show, or for the betterment of the breed, that would mean that you are breeding just to add to the already over crowded pet population.

I'm glad the pups have all been placed in loving homes. I hope those homes choose to spay and neuter them.

[felicity1008]

I questioned my small animal vet about not having the history on the grandparents of the dogs and he does not see the heritage as an issue on the health of the pups and was encouraged by the vets that we work with to breed my pretty babies for they are breeder of larger dogs and breed for the same reasons. I will more than take one of these guys back if there ever was an issue. I have not had a problem with the other two i breed. I just saw the one that went to my babysitter tonight and i maybe watching him while she is away at college starting next year. He is very healty and doing well. One of the pups is going to another neighbor and i will be happy to see him too. We also have puppy lemonlaws here in NJ so if i do have to sell the remaining 3 that i am expecting they get a copy along with the contract. Im sorry to argue about this but my dogs are beautiful and healthy and i appreciate your opinions again but if i could have purchased all AKC will full registration i would have but it is what it is.

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I questioned my small animal vet about not having the history on the grandparents of the dogs and he does not see the heritage as an issue on the health of the pups and was encouraged by the vets that we work with to breed my pretty babies for they are breeder of larger dogs and breed for the same reasons. I will more than take one of these guys back if there ever was an issue. I have not had a problem with the other two i breed. I just saw the one that went to my babysitter tonight and i maybe watching him while she is away at college starting next year. He is very healty and doing well. One of the pups is going to another neighbor and i will be happy to see him too. We also have puppy lemonlaws here in NJ so if i do have to sell the remaining 3 that i am expecting they get a copy along with the contract. Im sorry to argue about this but my dogs are beautiful and healthy and i appreciate your opinions again but if i could have purchased all AKC will full registration i would have but it is what it is.

No reputable vet would say that! Where do you think genetics play a role in breeding. Those that study pedigrees can tell you that maybe your dam or sire is healthy, but its parents may have a genetic disease which can be passed down to the puppies the dam is having. The disease could skip a generation. Which is why it is important to know the history of the puppies.

Just because you believe your dogs to be beautiful and healthy doesn't mean they are suitable for breeding purposes.

[nana911]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

Hopefully i can make some great connections here on YT for their forever homes. I am so picky and will hate to let them go. But for now Im going to enjoy every minute of these little fur puffs!
Melissa

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I am very well off and dont breed for $$$

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

Since you are looking for YT members as connections for forever homes for your furbabies and are not looking to sell them. I would definitely be interested in one of the puppies if there is a girl. Since you are giving them for free, I could afford to drive to pick her up.

I'm not a big fan of breeding without a history of the parentage but since the baby is free, that would leave me funding for insurance to help for future vet costs if needed. Just let me know.

[felicity1008]

Originally Posted by nana911

Since you are looking for YT members as connections for forever homes for your furbabies and are not looking to sell them. I would definitely be interested in one of the puppies if there is a girl. Since you are giving them for free, I could afford to drive to pick her up.

I'm not a big fan of breeding without a history of the parentage but since the baby is free, that would leave me funding for insurance to help for future vet costs if needed. Just let me know.

I would like to get to know you PM me!!

[ladyjane]

Since you are giving them away, I too may be interested. I would rather take one to place now instead of waiting for him/her to come to me after someone has ruined him/her. Advertising them online for free is a sure fire guarantee they will end up in rescue (that is IF they are lucky).

[Deuce]

Shoot, I'll take a free yorkie as well, I could afford the round trip plane ticket that way, since I won't have a puppy shipped cargo to me. Plus I'll be able to put aside the initial purchase price of a yorkie pup for the inevitable vet costs.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I questioned my small animal vet about not having the history on the grandparents of the dogs and he does not see the heritage as an issue on the health of the pups and was encouraged by the vets that we work with to breed my pretty babies for they are breeder of larger dogs and breed for the same reasons. I will more than take one of these guys back if there ever was an issue. I have not had a problem with the other two i breed. I just saw the one that went to my babysitter tonight and i maybe watching him while she is away at college starting next year. He is very healty and doing well. One of the pups is going to another neighbor and i will be happy to see him too. We also have puppy lemonlaws here in NJ so if i do have to sell the remaining 3 that i am expecting they get a copy along with the contract. Im sorry to argue about this but my dogs are beautiful and healthy and i appreciate your opinions again but if i could have purchased all AKC will full registration i would have but it is what it is.

First of all no reputable vet would state that as someone else posted and if they did it seems to me that vet shows a lack of education about breeding and I would be looking for another.

I mean are you seriously telling me you bought a male & two females and both are having litters now and one had a litter before and you aren't breeding to sell them? They are all free?

You could have purchased AKC Yorkies from reputable breeders once you had mentored and educated yourself so ethical, reputable breeders would have gotten to know you and come to a place of trust, etc..
You CHOSE not to do that, you chose to buy from anyone that would sell you dogs so you could just breed them.
How are you doing anyone a favor by breeding for pet quality, when you are breeding dogs with unknown history and came from unethical places?
I'm sorry, that is so irresponsible to me!

[cheryl19]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Since you are giving them away, I too may be interested. I would rather take one to place now instead of waiting for him/her to come to me after someone has ruined him/her. Advertising them online for free is a sure fire guarantee they will end up in rescue (that is IF they are lucky).

Oh boy FREE YORKIES I'll take one too!!!!

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

I paid 1800 for one female, 1000 for the other, and 2000 for my male. In NJ you cannot get full registration on AKC unless you are FRIENDS with someone. I was lied too and i should not be condoned for that. I breed for pet quality not AKC show dogs . I have papers on all but just one AKC.
I gave one pup away in exchange for babysitting the other a wonderful home. 3 of the pups have homes already to good friends for free or some babysitting, i love seeing my pups. I do it for the enjoyment of the breed. I We work with Vets 3 times a day and they have DNA tested all my pups and have full health clearance.
i appreciate your concern but im not breeding for show just loving pets

You are indeed looking to "sell" your puppies, no one would think otherwise as your quote below indicates.
Also, below are links to your previous posts that detail where all three of your dogs came from. It is a shame that you talk about being picky on where your puppies go, but you weren't picky on where you got your dogs from.
I mean if you aren't responsible for those decisions, who is?
On your female due now, in one of the posts below you said you googled the breeder you bought her from AFTER bringing her home and found out all kinds of info. Why wouldn't you research before??
You brought home two of your dogs at 6 & 8 weeks and they came from a pet store, a USDA broker & the third came from a breeder who at least sells to brokers

"Welcome to YT...I live in Farmingdale, Nj about 15 min from you. We are expecting 2 litters in Sept. Not for adoption but for sale. Felicity is due in about a week with 3 pups ...we are hoping for a safe whelp and are very excited! One of her little boys, from a previous litter, lives on my street. I just saw him this morning. He is soooo cute and i love getting to see him often and he visits his mom too."

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-do-i-do.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post2783028

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...eder-fl-3.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post3267901

[felicity1008]

Originally Posted by Reese1

You are indeed looking to "sell" your puppies, no one would think otherwise as your quote below indicates.
Also, below are links to your previous posts that detail where all three of your dogs came from. It is a shame that you talk about being picky on where your puppies go, but you weren't picky on where you got your dogs from.
I mean if you aren't responsible for those decisions, who is?
On your female due now, in one of the posts below you said you googled the breeder you bought her from AFTER bringing her home and found out all kinds of info. Why wouldn't you research before??
You brought home two of your dogs at 6 & 8 weeks and they came from a pet store, a USDA broker & the third came from a breeder who at least sells to brokers

"Welcome to YT...I live in Farmingdale, Nj about 15 min from you. We are expecting 2 litters in Sept. Not for adoption but for sale. Felicity is due in about a week with 3 pups ...we are hoping for a safe whelp and are very excited! One of her little boys, from a previous litter, lives on my street. I just saw him this morning. He is soooo cute and i love getting to see him often and he visits his mom too."

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-do-i-do.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post2783028

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...eder-fl-3.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post3267901

my daisy looks exactly like your larger one. does not look like full yorkie to me. but it is?? i did not believe daisy was full yorkie till i had her checked but she is and is ACA registered for the woman i got her from in florida.
my oh my you poor thing you have nothing else better to do. i pitty you