Looking for a mentor hopefully in Jackson, Michigan

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by Yorkiexpress

Looks like a little GME mixed in there too...I saw many of the same movements.....that poor little baby.....just makes me sick!!

More likely to be Chiari as often the two can go together.

[DBlain]

Lillymae, I don't understand much of the medial stuff and did not follow all of her FB posts on when she was trying to get it diagnosed, but she has been going to a vet for about a month or so trying to figure out what was wrong, one vet told her it was LP, then it was a broken leg, she was also told the dog was to young to be operated on. I have read enough posts in the sick and injured section to know many people do about the same thing when trying to figure out what is wrong, so how could that be considered cruelty.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by lillymae

More likely to be Chiari as often the two can go together.

I have not read all the links, so I don't know if you know this but Mia had a broken leg prior to this problem, at first the vet said the leg did not heal properly so that was causing the problem. Perhaps the leg broke more easily because of this problem, or the break caused the gait to be worse

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by DBlain

Lillymae, I don't understand much of the medial stuff and did not follow all of her FB posts on when she was trying to get it diagnosed, but she has been going to a vet for about a month or so trying to figure out what was wrong, one vet told her it was LP, then it was a broken leg, she was also told the dog was to young to be operated on. I have read enough posts in the sick and injured section to know many people do about the same thing when trying to figure out what is wrong, so how could that be considered cruelty.

I'm sorry you misunderstood. I specifically said depending on how long she has known, but did not specify as I don't know the time frame here. Only that IF a person knows for an X amt of time & has not done anything to rectify the problem then it would fall under the cruelty laws.
In this case as far as I'm concearned this pup NEEDS to be confined & NOT be put places like up on couches & chairs for videos & pics.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by lillymae

I'm sorry you misunderstood. I specifically said depending on how long she has known, but did not specify as I don't know the time frame here. Only that IF a person knows for an X amt of time & has not done anything to rectify the problem then it would fall under the cruelty laws.
In this case as far as I'm concearned this pup NEEDS to be confined & NOT be put places like up on couches & chairs for videos & pics.

No I understood the part about how long she would have known, that's why I explained how quickly she started seeking treatment but was given a lot of wrong explanations. I agree I don't like the puppy being put on anything where it could easily fall.

I am not sure if this was my puppy if I would put it through expensive surgery, especially considering how young it is, what would you do?

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I have not read all the links, so I don't know if you know this but Mia had a broken leg prior to this problem, at first the vet said the leg did not heal properly so that was causing the problem. Perhaps the leg broke more easily because of this problem, or the break caused the gait to be worse

Believe me I am aware of the time frame that too many vets have taken to diagnose things like AAI, Chiari & GME & am not at all happy about it. I am not saying she is negligent in the pups care but AM saying that she knows about it & has offered out TWO males for stud & IMO this is negligent. I would also like to know what she will do to ensure that NO other pups will be brought into this world due to her breeding practices with this condition. IMO the ONLY way she could ensure that is to alter ALL dogs related to the parents of this pup & STOP all breedings until she purchases Good breeders from a REPUTABLE breeder. I DO feel strongly about this as I had a yorkie for 11 yrs who had Chiari, and in my time as a member on YT I have seen the heartache & expense other members & their innocent pups here have endured due to careless breeding.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by lillymae

Believe me I am aware of the time frame that too many vets have taken to diagnose things like AAI, Chiari & GME & am not at all happy about it. I am not saying she is negligent in the pups care but AM saying that she knows about it & has offered out TWO males for stud & IMO this is negligent. I would also like to know what she will do to ensure that NO other pups will be brought into this world due to her breeding practices with this condition. IMO the ONLY way she could ensure that is to alter ALL dogs related to the parents of this pup & STOP all breedings until she purchases Good breeders from a REPUTABLE breeder. I DO feel strongly about this as I had a yorkie for 11 yrs who had Chiari, and in my time as a member on YT I have seen the heartache & expense other members & their innocent pups here have endured due to careless breeding.

even though the males are the not the father of Mia, I agree she should just quit breeding all together and everything about offering the stud service for a donation sounds tacky. But on the other hand one thing I have to give her credit for is the fact that she did not keep this hush hush, think about if she was just in it for the breeding money she would have quietly put the puppy down and gone on breeding with no one being the wiser. Except she is so desperate to get the puppy fixed that she is willing to loose money on future sales or stud service. That is why I truly belive while she is not the wisest breeder she is not in it for the money. Just like not selling this little girl, yeah she had her for sale for $5,000.00, but she did that so her husband would think she was trying to sell her, meanwhile she turned down two offers for over $2,000.00. She kept Mia because of the bond she formed with her during the months she hand fed and cared for her around round the clock, she even kept her knowing full well she would not breed her, this is not something a for profit breeder does. Many of us in the club discussed this, we could not understand why she would take on another puppy, we sort of just decided she is a yorkie-aholic

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by DBlain

No I understood the part about how long she would have known, that's why I explained how quickly she started seeking treatment but was given a lot of wrong explanations. I agree I don't like the puppy being put on anything where it could easily fall.

I am not sure if this was my puppy if I would put it through expensive surgery, especially considering how young it is, what would you do?

If this were my pup it would have already had surgery as soon as the Dr could have done it after the pup was diagnosed & in the mean time would have stayed at the hospital until surgery.
AAI is basically a broken neck & you just don't walk around & wait with a broken neck.

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by DBlain

even though the males are the not the father of Mia, I agree she should just quit breeding all together and everything about offering the stud service for a donation sounds tacky. But on the other hand one thing I have to give her credit for is the fact that she did not keep this hush hush, think about if she was just in it for the breeding money she would have quietly put the puppy down and gone on breeding with no one being the wiser. Except she is so desperate to get the puppy fixed that she is willing to loose money on future sales or stud service. That is why I truly belive while she is not the wisest breeder she is not in it for the money. Just like not selling this little girl, yeah she had her for sale for $5,000.00, but she did that so her husband would think she was trying to sell her, meanwhile she turned down two offers for over $2,000.00. She kept Mia because of the bond she formed with her during the months she hand fed and natured her round the clock, she even kept her knowing full well she would not breed her, this is not something a for profit breeder does. Many of us in the club discussed this, we could not understand why she would take on another puppy, we sort of just decided she is a yorkie-aholic

Breeding tinies & overcharging for them is definitely someone who is mainly in it for the money.
Those prices are out of line for any dog that is not a Champoin.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by DBlain

even though the males are the not the father of Mia, I agree she should just quit breeding all together and everything about offering the stud service for a donation sounds tacky. But on the other hand one thing I have to give her credit for is the fact that she did not keep this hush hush, think about if she was just in it for the breeding money she would have quietly put the puppy down and gone on breeding with no one being the wiser. Except she is so desperate to get the puppy fixed that she is willing to loose money on future sales or stud service. That is why I truly belive while she is not the wisest breeder she is not in it for the money. Just like not selling this little girl, yeah she had her for sale for $5,000.00, but she did that so her husband would think she was trying to sell her, meanwhile she turned down two offers for over $2,000.00. She kept Mia because of the bond she formed with her during the months she hand fed and cared for her around round the clock, she even kept her knowing full well she would not breed her, this is not something a for profit breeder does. Many of us in the club discussed this, we could not understand why she would take on another puppy, we sort of just decided she is a yorkie-aholic

Wow, just totally freaking wow. Do NOT give credit where credit is NOT due....not on here anyway, this breeder absolutely, positively, is everything most of us are against, and more....I am surprised that you, the animal lover I know you to be, can validate anything about this breeder. One only needs to look at her history, her website, her totally awful past YT internet campaign of hate and her reputation as a whole, she is as unethical and as cruel as any atrocious common puppymill, and then some. I can not imagine you, of all people, flocking with this type of person, but thats your choice. You are entitled to befriend whoever, but I would seriously take an internal inventory of your beliefs. You are enabling her, IMHO.

There are many responsible breeders here on YT alone, why do you choose to advocate for the one breeder who has demonstratively proven again and again what a greeder she is? The rescue folks on here work everyday to save pups from breeders exactly like this and will probably admit she is the worst of the worst...tirelessly they give and give and give of themselves, because of people like her, and somehow you don't see that at all? The first thing that came to my mind is naieve follower, but why?

All the time you spend on YT and somehow you still can't see what this person is? I am totally shocked here, totally.

I've read all the past threads, I've found her FB of YT hate spewing and I've looked at her site, maybe you should do the same. Just sayin...

Let me just say for the record, I don't care if your offended, for the Love of Mia, I don't care.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by lillymae

Breeding tinies & overcharging for them is definitely someone who is mainly in it for the money.
Those prices are out of line for any dog that is not a Champoin.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by lillymae

If this were my pup it would have already had surgery as soon as the Dr could have done it after the pup was diagnosed & in the mean time would have stayed at the hospital until surgery.
AAI is basically a broken neck & you just don't walk around & wait with a broken neck.

Cold hard truth, anyone? Thank you lillymae for putting it in terms anyone can understand.

[pinkpatty]

I have tried to stay away from this latest Tanisha Breton scam, she had no business breeding Yorkies, or any other dog for that matter. She breeds tiny, and sells for profit and only cares about the monies. She should either have this little puppy Mia surrendered to a yorkie rescue group or have her put down. It is obvious that she will not spend the monies needed to get her the care she needs. To ask for donations is about as tacky as anything I have ever seen. I agree the x-ray she has posted is a much larger dog, and certainly not Mia. Not only is she a irresponsible breeder, she has no shame. When you breed tiny you get sick puppies, and if people are so stupid that they pay big monies for tiny puppies they will continue to pay in vet bills for the rest of their dogs life. Sorry for the rant, but this kind of thing just makes me sick.

[Tina21]

I wish I had never watched the video. I cant stop crying. This woman is a monster!!!! To brag about how tiny the pup would be and then ask for money! I seriously doubt that the money will actually go toward medical costs, anyone who breeds for tiny dogs is seriously twisted!!! These are loving, feeling, sweet dogs and to use them for profit at the expense of their health and well being is a crime, the fact that there is no punishment for creating an animal so weak is a sin. We need to stop rewarding these "breeders". I will never ever get the image of that poor little girl out of my head. This evil b**tch clearly made enough money off her experiments to pay for the results but obviously her greed is greater than her ability to feel compassion. This little one should be seized immediately given medical care and an investigation should be started!!!!

[ladyjane]

The sad reality is that no one is going to seize this puppy. Educating people is, sadly, a waste of time in terms of stopping this woman. Just look at how many people who come to YT and yell at us for daring to say that a yorkie puppy should be with his mom until at least 12 weeks of age. They simply don't care...they want what they want and will pay for them. The never ending search for "teacups' is nauseating and people DO know...they simply don't care and/or believe.
Again, instead of spinning wheels, I hope someone reports this woman to the IRS. I keep saying this but it does not seem to be hitting home. I don't have all of the information or I would do it. I also simply don't have the time.
Anyone who has dealt with the IRS will tell you...it's not a pleasant experience!