Breeding my little boy!
 

I was approached a couple days ago when a friend of the family saw my little yorkie and said she had a friend that has a girl yorkie that is like 3 pounds and she was to breed her but she was looking for a small boy yorkie to breed her with. She asked if I would be interested and I told her yes but I want to know more about it because I am clueless when it comes to this stuff so please answer some questions I have.

How old do they have to be before the boys can start producing?

As a boy owner obviously the girl yorkie owner would make more money off the babies than me, how much profit would she make over me?

Is there a certian time that you let them mate?

Is there any precautions I need to take before letting this happen?

Please tell me anything about this that you think I might need to know.

Look forward to seeing everyones feedback..

PS Ill post a picture on here real soon of his soon to be girlfriend!

I am not a breeder or an expert but I do know a female under five pounds should not be bred. There are to many complications with one so small. Your male should be smaller than her female. There are also all kinds of pre breeding testing to be done on both sides. You also need genetic information from at least a few generations back to insure you are not going to be breeding puppies with genetic problems. Posting in the breeding section may get you more expert advice.

Really?
 

Here, read this please...

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...t-breeder.html

Then decide.

I dont know much about breeding but what I do know is that girl is far too small to be bred.
I dont know how much profit she would make, usually when breeding you agree on a stud price or take pick of the litter.
I know there are health tests that should be carried out on both the male and female.
But again that girl is far too small to be bred and her owner is silly for risking her health just for puppies.

Can I ask why she wants to breed her? Just for the money? If so thats very sad.

That female is way too small to be bred even with a small male.

Did your breeder sell you your pup with open registration? You aren't obligated by contract to neuter your pup and not breed?

When I brought my first male home, many people approached me about breeding him to their females. I didn't have any interest and I explained that I was obligated to neuter him.

I wanted to neuter at the appropriate age to prevent marking (territorial peeing) inside my home and for a whole lot of other behavioral reasons. Read the stickie post on the benefits of neutering/spaying.

Deuce, That did not educated me at all on Breeding. If we all sat here in life and said WHAT IF ..... we would do nothing with our lives because we would be scared of what COULD happen instead of thinking of something really good could of came out of it. If we all sat around and said WHAT IF before a human decided to have a child then this world would be dead because everyone would be to scared to produce. Please...if your going to give me information ...please lets me educational ...I dont want WHAT IF...senarios!

Thanks

The lady said she rescued this girl so she does not have papers on her. I have papers on my boy. I have not spoke to her yet about it all personally I am just hearing this all through a family friend. I will ask her why she wants to breed when I do speak with her.

The what if's are meant to let you know what kind of situations could arise during the breeding. If you can't come up with an answer then you are not prepared to become a breeder.

Oh, and this should be moved to the breeders section, then maybe some experienced breeders can answer your questions...if they want to of course. There have been way too many wasted responses that fell on too many blind eyes.

:thumbup: I agree with this 100%. People ask for advice and then whine when its not the advice they want to hear. :rolleyes:

THAT is the difference here, a human can decide if they want to have a child.
A dog on the other hand cannot make decisions like this they only do what comes naturally.. you as the human have to make the decisions for them.
And as a responsible owner she should make the right decision and NOT breed her girl.. she is far too small.
Breeding small dogs like this has been proven to cause complications so why would you want to put an animal which you are suposed to love through that? Does she understand that this could be fatal for her girl?
If I had an under sized girl I would be using the WHAT IF senario because I wouldnt want to risk loosing my girl!!

I am no breeder, but I will tell you what I have learned from reading other posts here on YT.

1. Becoming a breeder takes years of discipline and research on the breed.
2. You should have a mentor that is well versed on the breed, and they should be available to you should anything seriously go wrong during the whelp or the breeding.
3. Yorkie females under 5 pounds should NEVER be bred at all. This is very dangerous and could ultimately kill the female.
4. There is a list of tests that should be performed on both the male and female prior to breeding to check for STDs, liver shunt, and other problems that may occur.
5. The size of the male does not matter when determining the size of the puppies and whether or not the female will carry them to term and have healthy puppies.
6. A check of both the female's and male's blood lines should be done prior to breeding.
7. Breeding is not just throwing two dogs together.
8. Your male could become injured in the breeding process and cause permanent damage to him especially if the female is inexperienced and there is noone there to offer assistance.
9. Breeding should take place in order to better the breed not for financial gain.
10. If done properly, you will not make money because you will spend a small fortune doing what is best for the breed.

This in no way covers what all should take place prior to breeding. You should know that breeding should not be taken lightly and that there are and will be consequences to going ahead with it. This breeding could ultimately ruin your male for the rest of his life.

If you really want to breed your male, do research on the breed, find a mentor that specializes in the Yorkie breed, research his bloodlines and make sure there are no genetic defaults, and make sure your reasons for breeding are not for profit but to better the breed.

I used to think breeding was no big deal, but thanks to YT I have seen the light.

If you will do a search of the threads posted here, you will find many reasons why breeding should not be taken lightly.

This thread should really be moved to the breeders section as there are many great breeders here who could give you a better insight than I have.

Good luck to you.

:aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork

Great post :thumbup:

Your thought process in regard to breeding sickens and astounds me. I pray for the safety of this little girl, she is way too tiny to be bred:cry:

You should be ashamed of yourself. It's all about the money for you, isn't it?!?!:eek: :mad: If you are breeding properly, with all of the testing and vet care that SHOULD be done, you're lucky to break even. Only those that breed a lot of dogs and/or cut corners on their care make any money at all.

SICK

The girl is 3lbs????? Wow, that is crazy, she should not be bred at all, her owner is asking for disaster, very sad :(

I agree, It's all about the money for sooo many terrible breeders, it makes me nauseous, they could care less about the poor dog.

It's a sad state of affairs, isn't it?:cry: I think I may be too tenderhearted about these precious little ones to read threads like this:( I just can't help but speak up for the innocent animals. Even if this poster doesn't listen to the advice given here, perhaps someone else reading this will think twice before doing something so heartless, greedy, and cruel.

A 3 lb female is WAY too small to breed. The general rule for Yorkies is to not breed a female under 5 lbs and even then you have to take into consideration other factors, like pelvic structure, if the dog came from a line of free whelpers, etc. I am shocked and saddend that this lady would even entertain the thought of breeding a tiny 3lb, unregistered girl that she rescued. She clearly is not concerned about the life of her dog. But as the potential stud owner, you have an obligation to do what's right too. Why would you be willing to go along with it?

You stated that the owner of the female will make more money off of the endevour. Ethical breeders rarely if ever see profit from breeding. There are so many costs to cover IF going about things the right way, i.e. medical testing, supplies, vaccinations, etc. You're actually concerned about how much more she will make than you will? So to answer your question, IF you guys were being responsible, then neither of you would likely see any profit at all....so you'd be even.

Sadly, per your post history, I doubt you will take any advice anyone has to offer to heart.

Why do you want to breed your little guy? I was approached once (after Bandit was neutered) and was flattered but the lady only wanted him because he was small.

A female only 3 pounds is way too small to be bred, and the person who wants to breed her is either uneducated about breeding or intentionally trying to get unhealthily small pups- either way you don't want a part in that cruelty.

An unspayed female from a rescue? I'm sure it wasn't a reputable rescue as some of our members are involved with. Heaven only knows what problems lurk.

"Rescued" a three-pound female and intends on breeding her? The term rescue here bothers me. :(

3# Surely you know better than this. this has to be a joke. in the event that you are serious. Ask yourself how you are going to feel for having been a part of this, if the poor little girl dies.

I realize that is an IF. But everything is an IF when it comes to breeding. There are no guarantees. But breeding a 3# girl, greatly increases the ODDS of those IFs happening.

I see your at it again:mad::thumbdown

Not much of a RESCUE. From the frying pan to the fire.

Just checking to see if the OP has bothered to reply yet...

I am just curious to know what rescue she adopted this baby from. Do you know the name of the place? Reputable rescues adopt dogs out on a spay/neuter contract. Breeding of rescued animals is not allowed and if it is then I would have to say it is not a rescue shelter but more of a dog trafficking agency. If that is the case, then that is just too sad and sorry.

:aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork

Please read this

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-answered.html
There is so much that goes into breeding and the above link only touches the surface.

Other things that you might think of that goe into being a reputable breeder.

1. Do you know how to whelp a litter? The owner of the bitch may not know how and it'll be your responsibility to assist.

2. Once your boy is used as a stud, he will begin marking everywhere.

3. If the owner of the pup is unable to place all the pups are you willing to take the pups?

4. Should the family of one of the pups be unable to keep the pup are you willing to take the pup should the owner of the bitch be unable to?

5. Your dog should have all required testing performed on your dog, CERF/OFA, Bile Acids. The female should have the same tests performed. Tests are not valid prior to the age of 2. All tests costs upward of $500.00.

6. Should the pups have any genetic defects, be prepared for your boy to be blamed. It's a fact of life the male always gets the blame.

7. Do you and the bitch owner know the pedigree of your dogs inside and out? Parents, grandparents and great greatparents is very important. Also, litter mates, previous litters and any off-spring those dogs may have produced.

I understand that you will make the final decision, but think long and hard. Breeding is not for everyone, and one should not attempt it until knowledge and education on the process is obtained. The life of these little creatures are in your hands.

This little girl is way to small to breed are you willing to take the responsibility of her life? Because you will be indirectly responsible by allowing your boy to stud this girl.

You know, you have been on this site long enough to know what you are asking is ludicrous and what people's responses will be.
Grow up and be responsible. Even a moron knows you do not breed a rescue. .
Gimmie a break already with these outrageous threads :thumbdown

Is it possible this animal was acquired through nefarious means?