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i agree its been awhile since she started drama.. and then wham!! If this truly is a serious question.. then please USE YOUR BRAIN and LISTEN to what every one has to say about this!! NO dog that small should be bred... a dog that was rescued shouldnt be bred.. your male shouldnt be bred.. please do us and the already very over populated world a huge favor and neuter your dog and talk the so called friend of yours into doing the same thing. This whole situation is just wrong!! :( |
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what possible reason would you want to participate in bringing more possibly genetically unhealthly puppies into the world when there are so many shelter dogs waiting for homes? And especially since you say the girl is a rescue, why would you take part in something like this? I hope that the owner of this little girl and you open your eyes to the "what if's" because that is all you have to go by. |
Plain and simple...if YOU love the breed, if you LOVE animals...you will not allow your male to be bred to a 3 pound rescue...you can say you are a dog lover and care about them or you can actually DO IT. Words are cheap..it is our actions that show who we really are... |
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There are too many pups in the shelters and pounds. Why participate in adding to the population? If you allow your dog to be bred with hers you are adding to the problem.:mad: |
You know better then this. Everyone has always given you great advice,its insulting to us to even ask this. a year ago this month i was given the the absolute answer to this question. My baby Gatsby ended up with anemia and i had to spend 700 dollars on his transfusion.while i was driving home from the pet hospital i got a frantic call from my cousin whos small dog(12 pounds) had been forced to mate with with a large dog (24 pounds) and she was haveing puppies 4 puppies had been born and she was shaking really bad and my cousin who was 14 was really scared when i got there a fifth puppy had been born and baby had stopped shaking i carefully checked to make sure the puppies wear alive then i put them in one crate and baby in another and drove back to the emergency pet hospital wear they told me she had likely had a seizure because the puppies wear so big she had went into shock they did not know why she recovered and was able to deliver the last puppies so after another 100 dollars i took her home and told them to call me with any more problems. a week later i get another call my cousin telling me that her dad was tired of the puppies and had took mom and the puppies and dumped them in a box in a parking lot It was raining that night. so when i got there the puppies wear socked and i could not find baby i put the puppies in my car and had my best friend take them to the emergency vet while i wandered around in the rain calling for baby who must have been looking for a dry place to put her puppies when i found her she was shaking and wet and crying my friend came back and took baby to the vet they wear a week old and already the five puppies weighed half as much as she did i had to hand nurse 2 puppies because she did not have milk for all five the puppies ended up with respiratory infections and wear very sick they wear covered in fleas and always seemed to be hungry by 2 weeks they outweighed mom and she began losing weight. in the end mom and puppies turned out okay i found homes for everyone mom and three of the pups wear adopted by the same family so they get to see each other all the time. the last pup is not the biggest and she belongs to my best friend. one of the puppies i kept because she is nearly completely blind and she is distrustful of people she is also one of the pups i hand nursed. mom is now spyed so she never has to go through this again. i just want you to think about all this before you breed with this little girl |
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You've been on this site long enough to know that just having "papers" doesn't mean squat when it comes to whether or not you have a dog that should be part of a breeding program. If I remember correctly, your boy is young. You still have no idea whether or not he is considered an excellent example of the breed. There are enough poorly bred Yorkies being dumped every day. No need to add more. Have you shown him to get approval for your breeding intentions? Do you know the health history of his lineage? Any incidents of congenital diseases anywhere along the line? Just because your boy may be healthy doesn't rule out that he could be carrying a recessive gene for something devastating. Are you ready, willing and able to assume the financial risk of him throwing a sick pup? Are you aware that just because he's small, he could throw a large pup and potentially cause fatal consequences for the bitch? Has he been thoroughly screened and graded for hip and leg integrity? If you are seriously thinking about breeding, these are just a few of the absolute minimum things you should be looking in to. Any owner who is truly interested in bettering the breed would NEVER allow their dog to breed with just anyone. Their reputation and future of their breeding program is on the line with every pup thrown. Oh, and for the record- maybe people should put in a little more thought before having children. If they did, maybe I'd have fewer drug addicted, abused and abandoned kids to deal with in my line of work. |
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I was approached a couple days ago when a friend of the family saw my little yorkie and said she had a friend that has a girl yorkie that is like 3 pounds and she was to breed her but she was looking for a small boy yorkie to breed her with. She asked if I would be interested and I told her yes but I want to know more about it because I am clueless when it comes to this stuff so please answer some questions I have. How old do they have to be before the boys can start producing? After their testes drop, but don't let the AKC know anything about this, they have "dumb" rules. :) As a boy owner obviously the girl yorkie owner would make more money off the babies than me, how much profit would she make over me? Glad you are thinking about money here, wouldn't want you to not make a profit off your pet. Think of all the cute stuff you bought and all the money spent, it's time for some payoff. :) Is there a certian time that you let them mate? Is there any precautions I need to take before letting this happen? I'm no breeder, but I think it's important to create a mood, and best time is after a steak candlight dinner. Make sure he shows up with treats and flowers. :) Please tell me anything about this that you think I might need to know. Your little boy will not longer be your little boy after this happens; you will be the last thing on his mind, but think of the the bucks you can make! :) Hope he doesn't get any STD's, he can get them even if this it the first time for both. Look forward to seeing everyones feedback.. PS Ill post a picture on here real soon of his soon to be girlfriend! |
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Money really is the root of all evil. A 3-lber being bred is just plain evil!!!!:mad: |
My Tatiana is a 3 lb female. Her breeder says she's too small to have puppies. I regard Tatiana as a precious pet, and I never intend to breed her. |
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This girl is way to small to be bred. You can do thr right thing and refuse and hopfully for the little girls sake she will get the message. Just because you have a male and she has a female is NOT reason to breed them With all the unwanted dogs in this country only the best of the best and pre-screened dogs should be bred. Have you tested your male's bile acids, have you had his eyes cerfed, have you done reseach on his line and the female lines to make sure they will produce well together/ If the answer is NO to any of the questions he should not be bred. It takes more then putting 2 dogs together to be a responsilbe breeder You may tell the bitches owner that 60% of yorkies are c sections and that does not guarantee live puppies or tha tthe bitch will make it either sorry for so sever of an answer BUT if more people thought before they bred we would have a much healthier breed. Just look around the health section and see some of the problems people are having I bet more then 90% are gentic! Sparkingbluyorkies.com |
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Looks like she posted to stir the pot and then left. I wouldn't even bother responding to her questions because she knows the answers :thumbdown:thumbdown |
I know ZERO about breeding but I do know I would never put my baby in danger to make money. I am suprised by how many people approach me when I am out to see if I am going to breed my boy since he is small. I have NO plans to let him reproduce and will have him fixed as soon as he is old enough. I had no idea what to look for when I saw him and sadly I now think he came from a lady running a puppy mill. She had way too many dogs. I took him because I couldn't leave him where I knew he would have almost no human contact except when they were on display for sale. Now thanks to this board I know so much more and when we are ready for a brother for Harley hopefully I will be able to find a reputable breeder in Western Ky area. I can't thank everyone enough, you all have been so kind! |
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NatNatt thinks because her dog is little and cute and healthy, he'll have little cute healthy puppies, she doesn't want to hear that there is a high probability this will not be the case, she only wants to know how much money she should ask for. She's not thinking about where those puppies will go, or if the new owners will have the money to pay for any health problems the puppies might have. She doesn't understand that breeders should do EVERYTHING in their power to ensure that they are breeding dogs whose offspring have a wonderful chance at being healthy. She probably doesn't understand that the number one cause of death in unneutered male dogs is death due to injuries caused by a car accident, once they have been bred, they want to continue to do it, and can smell a bitch in heat ten miles away. Breeders sacrifice a lot for this breed, but good breeders do it for the love of the breed, not the love of money. |
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NatNatt: I hope you tell the person with the 3 pound yorkie to get her spayed. Yorkies under 5 pounds should never be bred. I'm not a breeder and even I know that. This woman needs to understand that she is harming her small yorkie by breeding her. IF the yorkie even makes it through a pregnancy, she could end up with a shattered pelvis at best from the size of the puppies. Especially if the boy is bigger than she is (full grown). Also, your boy should be neutered. He will feel so much better without his hormones raging every time a female in heat is around. Plus, he will be less likely to mark in your home. There is no reason a "normal" person should be breeding their pup, no matter what breed it is. Breeders know what they're doing after years of research, and even then things can go wrong. As Bob Barker would say: "Help control the pet population. Have your pet spayed or neutered." |
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In looking back over the OP's other posts it seems she has a pattern of stirring the pot and bowing out as it starts to ripple. She has asked for advice in the past and has clearly ignored what was offered to her.I wonder why someone would ask for advice and not take it. It seems pointless to ask in the first place. She was told that 6 weeks old was too young for a Yorkie to leave its mother and siblings and yet she still insisted on getting him that young. Later, she posted about how very frustrated she was with him when he was exhibiting behaviors and habits she thought was very inappropriate and did not fit in with her lifestyle. When the pup was 4 months old she started a post bragging how wonderfully healthy her puppy was and tried to rub it in the other posters' faces by saying "I guess what you all told me about 6 weeks being to young was not true." The sad part about this whole ordeal is that those furbabies will be the one to suffer from the blatant stupidity of their owners. I to have done some stupid things in my life and with my furbabies, but I can sit here and honestly say that at least I am not so self absorbed that I will not listen to hard core facts and reasoning. I have changed my mind and outlook on lots of things and I can only hope that one day something will click in the OP's head and a light will come on. Until then, I don't feel like this OP has intentions of asking legitimate questions she wants legitimate answers for, and that is why I will not entertain her threads anymore. :aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork |
Sadly, I have to agree with Yorkie Proud. I have a sneaking suspicion that in about 3 months there will be another thread with the OP saying the deed had been done, the pups are here and the bitch didn't die so that OBVIOUSLY means that people on here don't know what they are talking about. Hopefully when that happens, the very knowledgable breeders here will tell her she got lucky and once again numerate exactly what was wrong behind the thinking. I say that not because it will prevent the OP from doing it again, but because the thread will be educational for those newbies reading here when it happens. Is it beating a dead horse to have to repeat everything? Yes. But obviously there will always be people who either think they know better or just plain don't care enough about the dogs to do the right thing. And just as unfortunately, there will be other posters coming on and jumping all over the knowledgable, responsible people for being "mean". Stupidity seems to thrive with cheerleaders. |
I have had people come and ask me if I was going to breed my girl.. Common sense prevails , and their is no way I would ever do it. As far as I know doing it the right way , their is very little money made into breeding. Their are too many risks as well. You are not looking at the big picture , only what you can profit out of, this is such a shame :thumbdown |
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I think if you want to join the ranks of being a backyard breeder who breeds for all the wrong reasons, who breeds a dog that is not a good representation of the breed and breeds him to another dog that also is not a good representation of the breed. If you are interested in making money off the backs of your poor little dog and that poor little female. If you want to add to an already overpopulation of poorly bred dogs that have been bred by ignorant & disreputable breeders and you want your name added to that list. Then you are on the right track! |
once again the very silly NatNatts got just what she wanted...attention. :rolleyes: |
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