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BanditSocks2 · 07-25-2010, 06:06 PM

Before I start this Nala is fine now

Nala is a very tough little pup! She got her distemper 1-year vaccine on Friday and was fine, you could tell it hurt because she opened her mouth, but she's a tough little girl and didn't even cry. The vet said her right shoulder may be a bit sore from the shot. We walked to the vet and she walked back fine. She played the rest of the day and night and even slept with us which is extremely rare, we usually put her in her crate at night-- it was only her 3rd or 4th time sleeping with us. Anytime I touched her shoulder that night, downstairs or upstairs in bed she SHRIEKED like it was the worst pain in the world--that's why I caved and let her sleep with us. The next morning when it was time for potty she couldn't get down the one step from the porch to patio or back up and was very tired. I called the vet because she has never had a reaction to vaccines, and does well with pain, and didn't even respond to the pain from the rabies vaccine. They said since her gums were pink and she was eating and everything I could give her the pain meds from the rabies vaccine I still had. Later that night she was completely fine, but the whole day she was so tired and I've NEVER seen her like that, so I was wondering has anyone ever experienced this??

BanditSocks2 · 07-25-2010, 06:49 PM

anyone??

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 06:57 PM

my dog had a reaction also but that was 6 years ago my vet needed to put him on steroids fora few days,,, that is why I now do titers no boosters, and they are much better for the dog,in my opinion, only shots my dogs get are rabies because its requred and titers are not allowed for rabies. Maybe look into titers instead, more so because your dog had a reaction.

BanditSocks2 · 07-25-2010, 06:59 PM

What is a titer? I read a thread discussing boosters vs. titers but wasn't sure what they were? Was Nala's "reaction" a reaction to the specific shot, because she's never had any other reaction.

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 07:09 PM

a titer is where your vet will draw blood send it to a lab and check to see if your dog still has enough antibodies to protect itself from what it was vaccinated for in the 1st place,, most of the time one vaccine is enough to cover the dog for life, its about 75 dollars for the test where i live but well worth it in my opion, and my vet will vaccinate for free if the dog needs it, my vet said in the 20 years he has been doing titers he has only seen a handful that need a booster,rabies of course is required every 3 years in the sate i live in, after the 1st year. im sure some people think a vaccine is better but in 6 years my dog hasnt needed any boosters.

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 07:14 PM

not sure of your dog would only have a reaction to that booster. I know my Shaffer had a horrible reaction to his that is when I decided titers were better option, my old vet would npt do titers so I changed vets and could not be happier with my vet. I think the vets that do titers probably lose some money because they are doing less shots but I could be wrong. Also I know that if you need to have your dog registered with your township they also accept a titer same as the shot record.

BanditSocks2 · 07-25-2010, 07:18 PM

Wow, I'll ask my vet when she calls to check on Nala tomorrow. She's great so I'm sure she'll be willing to do it. That sounds like a much better solution! For the nasal bordatella would you do that, or still do the booster since it's not a shot? Thanks so much

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 07:28 PM

Im not sure on the bordatella,,, I never had my dogs get it before, when my dogs fly they fly private jet and they dont need it for that and i never kennel them. Im not sure how often its needed, i know its for kennel cough but my guys are not that exposed to it and i figure if they do get it I would rather treat it than give them meds up the nose. I also think I read that it only last a certain time but I could be wrong but i thought that say for example you went on a trip for 1 week in december and put in a kennel, and then went away again in june they would need the bordatella again but again im not sure, what is the reason that you get the bordatella for your dog? Maybe ask in the breeders section or someone could explain better about bordatella

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 07:38 PM

i looked it up seems that bordatella is good for 12 months, but seems it has tons of possible side effects next time Im at the vet ill ask what she thinks, but i think i would rather treat the kennel cough if they get it rather than a vaccine,,, in 6 years so far neither of my dogs ever got it.

fifeandshaffer · 07-25-2010, 07:42 PM

Bordetella Vaccine

Britster · 07-25-2010, 07:48 PM

I know you told me about Nala the other day, that's sooo strange for her to be in pain like that, esp. because she's definitely not a wimpy dog, hehe. I'm glad she's feeling better though!

I had read about titers here on YT and think I wanna do them for Jackson. Since he had puppy vacs. and his one year booster... according to "Dr. Jean Dodds protocol" he should be set for life. So I think it'd be cool if a vet would titer for me to see if he's still got the vaccines in his system. Except rabies of course, which has to be done every 3yrs.

As for bordatella, Jackson got kennel cough before he had the bordatella vaccine. And since he had no bad reactions to the up-the-nose bordatella spray, I think I'll keep doing that one since we are around sooo many dogs all the time, etc.

Poochieheaven · 07-26-2010, 10:04 AM

Sounds like Piper last week when I got the rest of her shots.

She went in around 10 and was find most of the day and then that night and the next morning she wouldn't move. All she wanted to do was sleep.

Her temp was fine, she was eating, drinking, etc....just wanted to sleep.

I called the vet and then finally went in and they just said she was in pain and gave a little bit of pain meds and later the night (the day after the shots) she was back to herself.

I was super scared though....

The vet said that as long as she was eating/drinking and not throwing up, she was ok.

4doggiemama · 07-26-2010, 06:49 PM

My 14 yr. old, Rosie, reacts to the Distemper vaccination. Vet says to give Benadryl before coming in. My Pommie, Snowboy, got a cough when he received the Bordetella vaccination for boarding. Next time around he didn't react. ~Joanne~

Baby Pepper · 07-27-2010, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fifeandshaffer

i looked it up seems that bordatella is good for 12 months, but seems it has tons of possible side effects next time Im at the vet ill ask what she thinks, but i think i would rather treat the kennel cough if they get it rather than a vaccine,,, in 6 years so far neither of my dogs ever got it.

Sorry, reading my post, I just realize that this is one very long story/rant...

I totally agree with the above!
I don't have any medical background, which I better point out at this stage. My little Pepper had his 2nd vaccination (the routine C5 vaccines) after we got him from the breeder. I was a little nervous, being aware that adverse reactions can and do happen. Pepper was fine. Phew! After 3 days, however, he showed some for him unusual behaviour: he started whining at night and just would not stop. At the time, we thought that he was becoming spoilt, and after checking that all his needs had been met, we ignored his pining and all went back to sleep. Then, in the early morning, I woke up to find Pepper next to my bed in his pen, having a severe seizure! He was rushed to emergency, where he underwent intensive examinations and treatment (induced coma, CT, ... the works). Despite all this the cause of his illness was never determined. I tend to believe that it was an adverse reaction to his vaccine, I have absolute faith in the breeder who confirmed that there never had been any history of seizures in her Yorkies.
The vets I spoke with in Sydney doubt a link to the vaccination exists, even though they can not exclude it either. Vets in Germany have been less sceptical and seem more prepared to acknowledge the possibility.
Pepper has since fully recovered.
At the moment, we are going through some more stress: Parvo cases have shown up near where I live. Pepper's last titre test (he has had 2) showed decreased level of Parvo antibodies! Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Got my vet to obtain a single dose of Parvo vaccine only and Pepper received his shot on Saturday morning = 3 days ago. I am very nervous, naturally. But I have been told, that the Bordatella virus is the one, that seems to cause most of the reactions...
I will continue to avoid any unnecessary vaccinations. Regular titre test, and if Pepper should get Bordatella or eve Distemper (rare in this area), we will deal with the illness at the time.
Had I been a little more informed one year ago, I would not have agreed to a C5 shot for Pepper. Instead, he would have received single dose vaccines only. With long breaks in between.

Baby Pepper · 07-27-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fifeandshaffer

i looked it up seems that bordatella is good for 12 months, but seems it has tons of possible side effects next time Im at the vet ill ask what she thinks, but i think i would rather treat the kennel cough if they get it rather than a vaccine,,, in 6 years so far neither of my dogs ever got it.

Sorry, reading my post, I just realize that this is one very long story/rant...

I totally agree with the above!
I don't have any medical background, which I better point out at this stage. My little Pepper had his 2nd vaccination (the routine C5 vaccines) after we got him from the breeder. I was a little nervous, being aware that adverse reactions can and do happen. Pepper was fine. Phew! After 3 days, however, he showed some for him unusual behaviour: he started whining at night and just would not stop. At the time, we thought that he was becoming spoilt, and after checking that all his needs had been met, we ignored his pining and all went back to sleep. Then, in the early morning, I woke up to find Pepper next to my bed in his pen, having a severe seizure! He was rushed to emergency, where he underwent intensive examinations and treatment (induced coma, CT, ... the works). Despite all this the cause of his illness was never determined. I tend to believe that it was an adverse reaction to his vaccine, I have absolute faith in the breeder who confirmed that there never had been any history of seizures in her Yorkies.
The vets I spoke with in Sydney doubt a link to the vaccination exists, even though they can not exclude it either. Vets in Germany have been less sceptical and seem more prepared to acknowledge the possibility.
Pepper has since fully recovered.
At the moment, we are going through some more stress: Parvo cases have shown up near where I live. Pepper's last titre test (he has had 2) showed decreased level of Parvo antibodies! Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Got my vet to obtain a single dose of Parvo vaccine only and Pepper received his shot on Saturday morning = 3 days ago. I am very nervous, naturally. But I have been told, that the Bordatella virus is the one, that seems to cause most of the reactions...
I will continue to avoid any unnecessary vaccinations. Regular titre test, and if Pepper should get Bordatella or eve Distemper (rare in this area), we will deal with the illness at the time.
Had I been a little more informed one year ago, I would not have agreed to a C5 shot for Pepper. Instead, he would have received single dose vaccines only. With long breaks in between.

07-25-2010, 06:06 PM	#1
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	"Reaction" to Distemper Vaccine Before I start this Nala is fine now Nala is a very tough little pup! She got her distemper 1-year vaccine on Friday and was fine, you could tell it hurt because she opened her mouth, but she's a tough little girl and didn't even cry. The vet said her right shoulder may be a bit sore from the shot. We walked to the vet and she walked back fine. She played the rest of the day and night and even slept with us which is extremely rare, we usually put her in her crate at night-- it was only her 3rd or 4th time sleeping with us. Anytime I touched her shoulder that night, downstairs or upstairs in bed she SHRIEKED like it was the worst pain in the world--that's why I caved and let her sleep with us. The next morning when it was time for potty she couldn't get down the one step from the porch to patio or back up and was very tired. I called the vet because she has never had a reaction to vaccines, and does well with pain, and didn't even respond to the pain from the rabies vaccine. They said since her gums were pink and she was eating and everything I could give her the pain meds from the rabies vaccine I still had. Later that night she was completely fine, but the whole day she was so tired and I've NEVER seen her like that, so I was wondering has anyone ever experienced this??

07-25-2010, 07:48 PM	#11
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	I know you told me about Nala the other day, that's sooo strange for her to be in pain like that, esp. because she's definitely not a wimpy dog, hehe. I'm glad she's feeling better though! I had read about titers here on YT and think I wanna do them for Jackson. Since he had puppy vacs. and his one year booster... according to "Dr. Jean Dodds protocol" he should be set for life. So I think it'd be cool if a vet would titer for me to see if he's still got the vaccines in his system. Except rabies of course, which has to be done every 3yrs. As for bordatella, Jackson got kennel cough before he had the bordatella vaccine. And since he had no bad reactions to the up-the-nose bordatella spray, I think I'll keep doing that one since we are around sooo many dogs all the time, etc. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

07-26-2010, 06:49 PM	#13
4doggiemama Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: KS Posts: 3,289	My 14 yr. old, Rosie, reacts to the Distemper vaccination. Vet says to give Benadryl before coming in. My Pommie, Snowboy, got a cough when he received the Bordetella vaccination for boarding. Next time around he didn't react. ~Joanne~ __________________ Joanne Eli ChipperEva Snowboy Rosie(R.I.P. 1996-July 29, 2013) Cocoa(R.I.P 1998-April 26, 2012):

07-25-2010, 06:49 PM	#2
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	anyone??

07-25-2010, 06:57 PM	#3
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	my dog had a reaction also but that was 6 years ago my vet needed to put him on steroids fora few days,,, that is why I now do titers no boosters, and they are much better for the dog,in my opinion, only shots my dogs get are rabies because its requred and titers are not allowed for rabies. Maybe look into titers instead, more so because your dog had a reaction.

07-25-2010, 06:59 PM	#4
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	What is a titer? I read a thread discussing boosters vs. titers but wasn't sure what they were? Was Nala's "reaction" a reaction to the specific shot, because she's never had any other reaction.

07-25-2010, 07:09 PM	#5
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	a titer is where your vet will draw blood send it to a lab and check to see if your dog still has enough antibodies to protect itself from what it was vaccinated for in the 1st place,, most of the time one vaccine is enough to cover the dog for life, its about 75 dollars for the test where i live but well worth it in my opion, and my vet will vaccinate for free if the dog needs it, my vet said in the 20 years he has been doing titers he has only seen a handful that need a booster,rabies of course is required every 3 years in the sate i live in, after the 1st year. im sure some people think a vaccine is better but in 6 years my dog hasnt needed any boosters.

07-25-2010, 07:14 PM	#6
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	not sure of your dog would only have a reaction to that booster. I know my Shaffer had a horrible reaction to his that is when I decided titers were better option, my old vet would npt do titers so I changed vets and could not be happier with my vet. I think the vets that do titers probably lose some money because they are doing less shots but I could be wrong. Also I know that if you need to have your dog registered with your township they also accept a titer same as the shot record.

07-25-2010, 07:18 PM	#7
BanditSocks2 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crofton, MD, USA Posts: 1,522	Wow, I'll ask my vet when she calls to check on Nala tomorrow. She's great so I'm sure she'll be willing to do it. That sounds like a much better solution! For the nasal bordatella would you do that, or still do the booster since it's not a shot? Thanks so much

07-25-2010, 07:28 PM	#8
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	Im not sure on the bordatella,,, I never had my dogs get it before, when my dogs fly they fly private jet and they dont need it for that and i never kennel them. Im not sure how often its needed, i know its for kennel cough but my guys are not that exposed to it and i figure if they do get it I would rather treat it than give them meds up the nose. I also think I read that it only last a certain time but I could be wrong but i thought that say for example you went on a trip for 1 week in december and put in a kennel, and then went away again in june they would need the bordatella again but again im not sure, what is the reason that you get the bordatella for your dog? Maybe ask in the breeders section or someone could explain better about bordatella

07-25-2010, 07:38 PM	#9
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	i looked it up seems that bordatella is good for 12 months, but seems it has tons of possible side effects next time Im at the vet ill ask what she thinks, but i think i would rather treat the kennel cough if they get it rather than a vaccine,,, in 6 years so far neither of my dogs ever got it.

07-25-2010, 07:42 PM	#10
fifeandshaffer YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: cherry hill, nj usa Posts: 306	Bordetella Vaccine

07-26-2010, 10:04 AM	#12
Poochieheaven Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: River Falls, WI Posts: 677	Sounds like Piper last week when I got the rest of her shots. She went in around 10 and was find most of the day and then that night and the next morning she wouldn't move. All she wanted to do was sleep. Her temp was fine, she was eating, drinking, etc....just wanted to sleep. I called the vet and then finally went in and they just said she was in pain and gave a little bit of pain meds and later the night (the day after the shots) she was back to herself. I was super scared though.... The vet said that as long as she was eating/drinking and not throwing up, she was ok.