want a yorkie extremely bad:(

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by yorkienc

AKC IS NT THE ONLY PLACE U CN REGISTER A DANG DOG....but i believe its ckc like i said my mother misplaced the papers but he is registered i dnt care about the papers he is a good dog in good health and was priced reasonable...but like i said a couple of postings ago i have spoke with a couple of reputable breeders in nc about their babies ive been @ this search for months nw...once again thnx everyone for you alls advice it was very helpful

You're right. Continental Kennel Club (CKC) is used by puppy mills and byb'ers wishing to escape the scrutny of AKC (which only registers purebred dogs).

[yorkienc]

i love my GLORIFIED MUTT...I REALLY COULD CARELESS ABOUT DANG PAPERS THATS NT WTH IM LOOKING FOR A PUPPY NOT AKC PAPERS...I COULD CARELESS ABOUT A DANG SHOW RING DAT DOESNT INTEREST ME I WANT A DOG 2 LOVE N CARE 4.....thnx

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

try these threads of information and add them to your search list. they may help you understand the whole picture a little better and get you in the right direction for this puppy. we WANT for you to enjoy a yorkie and have one. everyone deserves to love and be loved by a yorkie. we just want to save you from a bad decision due to concerns about prices. that's not as important as a healthy and perfect pup ready to be loved.

try reading these and see where it leads you.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/207196-how-much-yorkie-puppy.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/207190-what-about-us-warning-graphic.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/161664-buying-yorkie-read-first-how-buy-yorkie.html

Is one of these the one that Nancy put together?

Nope, found it.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...g-graphic.html

[yorkienc]

well u think wat u want 2... my dog is most def not from a puppy mill we bought him from this very nice lady that my mother works with we went to her house and all received pics of Max as he grew..he was well cared 4

[gemy]

Originally Posted by yorkienc

not thousands no more 700-800. i feel like ppl r taking advantage because these are like one of the most wanted dogs.

It sounds as if you may be upset, that "breeders" are taking advantage of the popularity of this breed to "overprice" their puppies. Don't let your upset keep you for being open to a little different thinking or approach.

What we are trying to say here is that reputable breeders who bred true to the standard, doing all the necessary health checks, who prove their breeding stock worthy of being bred, who register their dogs with AKC here in the USA, this price of $1000 is not at all unreasonable in fact one of our members here did a search and came up with a slightly higher average than $1000.
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I hope that you whatever path you take that you research your breeder well, and that you end up with a happy and healthy pup.

To close the purchase price of a Yorkie will be the least investment you will make over the life of your dog.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by yorkienc

i love my GLORIFIED MUTT...I REALLY COULD CARELESS ABOUT DANG PAPERS THATS NT WTH IM LOOKING FOR A PUPPY NOT AKC PAPERS...I COULD CARELESS ABOUT A DANG SHOW RING DAT DOESNT INTEREST ME I WANT A DOG 2 LOVE N CARE 4.....thnx

You should care about AKC papers, if there is any question of parentage, they are the only thing you have to fall back on.

What I will say is if price is your primary factor....reputable breeders will not sell to you.

[Rhetts_mama]

For anyone coming on after this and is open to this info:

AKC:
Established 150 years ago
Recognizes 150 breeds
Requires that lineage be proven with AKC registration before a new pup can be registered.
Requires DNA testing on any male that's defined as a frequently used stud.
Can expel a breeder for behaving unethically
Does not allow "double registration".

CKC:
Established about 20 years ago
Recognizes 450 breeds, including mixed breeds.
A pup without previous registration history can be registered as a pure bred by providing 2 witness signatures attesting to the purebred status of the dog along with 3 photos (front,left and right) of the dog to confirm it is ‘of proper breed type.
Allows "double registration" of an AKC dog in to CKC registry.


AKC and CKC have different "breed standards" for their recognized breeds.

There are pros and cons to every registry. But it's not an "apples to apples" comparison between the two. Like everything else, there are good and bad breeders in both groups.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Is one of these the one that Nancy put together?

Nope, found it.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...g-graphic.html

yea one of them was that one...i thought she should see what happens in places that don't supply "show ring" dogs and "papered" dogs...

she sounds just like myself at that point in life. narrow minded and not willing to see the real picture.

[Mitzis Mom]

reading on and on I'm asking myself: What do you want from us? It can't be advice from some very very experienced breeders and Yorkie owners. So... did you just want to vent about prices you don't like to pay? If yes, why didn't you just say so... and save us the time and brain exercise to help you to the best of our abilities! I'm deserting this thread b/c it's frustrating and leads nowhere... BYE!!!

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

yea one of them was that one...i thought she should see what happens in places that don't supply "show ring" dogs and "papered" dogs...

she sounds just like myself at that point in life. narrow minded and not willing to see the real picture.

I work in a pet hospital so I just want to talk prices with you as well. Here's my breakdown for you.

Average cost of a BYB pup: $200-$700

If they get LP surgery costs: $1400
As a puppy they will need vaccines and spay/neuter: Neuter/spay surgery is about $200-$300 and then if there's a need for dental extractions they can be $30-60 per tooth that needs pulled (happened with Sadie)
Puppy shots: about 100-200 every four weeks from 8-16 weeks or so. (i'm iffy on the exact dates these are given)

Yealy vaccines after all the pup vaccines are given: $46 exam fee, distemper $26, bordetella $11, fecal w/ giardia $32.50, heartworm test $40, rabies 3 year $29,00 Vectra flea and tick prevention 1 year is: 225.00 (average of 18.80 a tube) Heartworm pills Interceptor for a year 52.50 local licensing for this area is $12-29 for one or three year.

Grand Total yearly health: $491

Dental cleanings (needed pretty often for most yorkies) $300-400 or more for extractions if needed.

Heartworm treatment for those that can't "afford" pills $700++



SO if you can't afford to spend over $1000 for a purebred yorkie, how are you going to afford 12-15 years of this dogs 500 yearly exams and all the other things you will need to give it a quality life? I'm just saying...and that's just vet stuff NOT the clothes, beds, toys, carrier, food, ext you will NEED to have to start.

[gemy]

Yorkshire Terrier Health risks of Yorkshire Terriers

Here is one of the most important reasons that you should buy only from reputable breeders.

You say you have researched alot, then you know how important health checks are.

And you also should understand how costly some of these conditions are. Yorkshire Terriers do have these conditions, and beyond price is the heartache to you and your little one. The unspeakable pain in your heart when your little puppy is walking drunkenly, or crying out in pain from bad knees or inflammation of the pancreas.

Reputable breeders do everything in the power to try to avoid puppies with any of these conditions. And should the unthinkable happen, they will stand beside you and behind every step of the painfull way to bring your pup back to health if at all possible. They will know and care to refer you to specialists, testing protocols that should be done, rehab and other experts that you might need on that journey.

[cathys]

If you didn't want help, why did you ask. If you have all the answers, than why are you asking questions. The ladies have told you, why a good puppy costs so much. That is what you said you wanted to know. They also told you where to go to look, if you only cared about cost. What more can they do, they are not going to give away a puppy that they have worked so hard to take proper care to have. If it were, you would you work for free? What a good breeder does, is invaluable to the breed, and the prices that most charge are reasonable. Do some get ridiculous, yes, but you will find that those are usually not the best breeders anyway. There is a lot of information on this site that can help someone, if they are willing to learn, if not, theres not much we can do.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by gemy

Yorkshire Terrier Health risks of Yorkshire Terriers

Here is one of the most important reasons that you should buy only from reputable breeders.

You say you have researched alot, then you know how important health checks are.

And you also should understand how costly some of these conditions are. Yorkshire Terriers do have these conditions, and beyond price is the heartache to you and your little one. The unspeakable pain in your heart when your little puppy is walking drunkenly, or crying out in pain from bad knees or inflammation of the pancreas.

Reputable breeders do everything in the power to try to avoid puppies with any of these conditions. And should the unthinkable happen, they will stand beside you and behind every step of the painfull way to bring your pup back to health if at all possible. They will know and care to refer you to specialists, testing protocols that should be done, rehab and other experts that you might need on that journey.

instead of saying this, "well none of our dogs have every had LP before so if you decide she needs surgery then we'll have to have our vet look at her before we do anything about it" ~Linda Greer Greenwood Kennels

Sadie was diagnosed with Grade 3 LP at age 10 months. Thank God it has slipped back in and she's ok and not in pain. we did months of treatments with a VOM specialist for about 60-70 each treatment and that's with a discount for employees. someday it will inevitably slip back out and we will be up for a 1400 LP surgery with NO apparent help from our "cheap" breeders.

they TRIED SO HARD to teach me this and tell me this would happen. did I listen NOPE, bought a 400 pup from a BYB and learned the hard way. we're just trying to save you from the same situation.

[gemy]

[QUOTE=Mardelin;3212862]You should care about AKC papers, if there is any question of parentage, they are the only thing you have to fall back on.

What I will say is if price is your primary factor....reputable breeders will not sell to you.[/QUOTE]


and just to make another point what we post here is visible for the world to see, including those self same reputable breeders who are, reviewing puppy questionnaires.

[AllDogBoots]

Although I don't necessarily agree with the OP's points of view I do feel badly for her. I don't blame someone for feeling uncomfortable posting in this forum. The original post is only asking a simple question.

I believe she is looking for a Yorkie as a pet, not a show dog. Papers don't matter, size and color don't matter. Health does. She has listened and been very respectful in every post. She doesn't have to agree with everyone.

I am personally dealing with an extremely reputable breeder myself who has raised show dogs. Several people on this forum have bought from her and have been extremely happy. She comes very, very highly recommended. She has offered me beautiful, healthy, Yorkie puppies for less than the "going rate" for several reasons.