What papers? Unless a dog is pure bred, papers are not valid. The only valid registry is AKC; you have other Kennel Clubs that are used by puppy mills and Backyard Breeders; these registries are used to fool the unsuspecting public but, mean nothing.

Good luck in your search.

Your 'perfect' baby is out there and since Yorkies find their people not the other way around, one day you'll fall for 'your' baby head over heels and you'll not look at the price tag at all...

Puppy or rescue... we have both and they are all equally loved and precious and none of them is or was cheap. We have Maggie, she is a rescue and we payed $500 for her and she cost us app. $2,500 in vet bills since January 2008 and we have Maxie and Minnie both rescues and they cost us $250 a pop and just app. $500 in vet bills for both of them in the last 2 years which is really a very low sum and normal. And we have Mikki who we got from a very reputable breeder as a puppy for $1,200 and she has epilepsy what no one could have seen up front. She cost us about $1,800 in vet bills since June 2008.

Thanks - no clue how you got papers on a mixed breed.

There are several really good looking yorkies in North Carolina right now. Don't be closed minded.

ok u went for a rescue puppy for your own reasons its nothing wrong with that...thats what you chose 2 do but i choose nt to i didnt mean nuthin by that comment thats just a route i prefer not to take sorry if offended you or anyone else no harm intended....and by the way your dogs are beautiful:)

Please consider one thing on your way to a cheap Yorkie: they are all coming from Puppy Mills or backyard breeders like the ones that were busted just a few days ago. If you buy from them you sponsor their absolutely cruel and disgusting methods and you are no better than them.

my mother told me he had papers but cant find em who knows with her he probably didnt come with papers but regardless of the paper deal hes still a healthy,playful, loving dog for a reasonable price....and to alldogboots im not being closed minded i have spoke with a couple of them i am considering getting one from one of the people i spoke with because i dont want to ship the dog

Just out of curiosity...the "papers" you've referred to more than once...what do they say on them? Yorkie-Poo's are not a recognized AKC breed...last I heard...:confused:

Thank you & no offense taken.;)

You love him and that is all that matters. However, $500.00 was extremely high for a cross bred dog.

There is a new (?) thing going on called AMBOR- American Mixed Breed Obedience Registry and NAMBR- North American Mixed Breed Registry. The idea behind them was to let mixed breed dogs compete in agility and obedience venues. Unfortunately, I've been seeing ads lately using these as a selling point.

NAMBR - North American Mixed Breed Registry
American Mixed Breed Obedience Registration

The CKC is also registering mixed breeds now, too.
http://www.continentalkennelclub.com...ArticleNum=121

I've heard of that. But, AKC now allows them to compete in Obedience and Agility. Not against pure breds, but they can obtain their titles.

i had ur attitude a long time ago. and guess what it got me...a $400 BYB pup that has biting issues and has had about $3000+++ in medical bills for gastroenteris problems and a luxating patella...

I also got a beautiful rescue dog from petfinder.com and guess what!?! he's 100% healthy, had all his shots and neutered (saves about 700-1000 right there) and i paid a tax deductible donation of $350 for him. he's cheaper than my poor back yard bred yorkie and he's healthier...

so don't slam the rescue idea because you can find a dog that's in your price range and 100% healthy with perfect behavior. and not only that but you can even find baby puppies in need of a mommy to love them with NO previous history other than they were born in a shelter to a rescued mommy. if you really want a Yorkie then you have two choice IMO. either you pay over $1000 for a reputable well respected breeder that breeds to the standard and for absolute yorkie perfection OR you get a rescue dog that needs a good home, has all their medical bills paid for upon arrival and usually is already well socialize and ready to love you. (yes sometimes there are issues, but they are easy to work through with patience and love). any other dog you get is going to probably cost you a ton of money "fixing" the breeders carelessness and cheapness. you will have health and behavioral problems forever and since yorkies can live 12-15 years that's a long lifetime of paying double, triple, and then some of the original price of the dog...think hard about what we're saying. look at the videos on here of puppy mills and backyard breeders and pet stores. do you really want to support a place like that over a few hundred extra dollars???

please don't make this mistake of going for a "Cheap" dog. it's the wrong choice and it will cost you more money and hearache than you can possibly imagine.

AKC IS NT THE ONLY PLACE U CN REGISTER A DANG DOG....but i believe its ckc like i said my mother misplaced the papers but he is registered i dnt care about the papers he is a good dog in good health and was priced reasonable...but like i said a couple of postings ago i have spoke with a couple of reputable breeders in nc about their babies ive been @ this search for months nw...once again thnx everyone for you alls advice it was very helpful

you are correct it is not the only place you can register a dog, but if you want to throw around the word "papers" on a forum such as this you need to understand what acceptable "papers" are. AKC is the ONLY registration a reputable breeder will be using. CKC (unless it's Canadian Kennel Club)and APRI and other registries willingly and gladly accept puppy mill and BYB and pet store puppies for "commercial breeding" i can guarantee you that there are very few if any reputable breeders to be found if you are getting "papers" from these registries.

nothing against mixed breed pups, i love them all, they are beautiful and wonderful pets, but they are not recognized by the AKC, they are not allowed in the show ring and thus to put it bluntly they are glorified MUTTS. they are not worth the same prices or more than purebreds and they are not recognized as a dog breed at this time. i'm glad you have a good dog and you happened to get lucky that it's healthy for a good price, but it's not a purebred and in order to get a purebred yorkie from a decent breeder you are going to have to put aside this thing you have about cost and fork over what they are worth. other choice is researching petfinder and finding a rescue pup that needs a home. trust me there are THOUSANDS in your area that need a home and i like you had my reservations about a rescue because i wanted a puppy and a purebred. guess what???! Sadie is prob. not 100% yorkie and my rescue pup is AMAZING.

try these threads of information and add them to your search list. they may help you understand the whole picture a little better and get you in the right direction for this puppy. we WANT for you to enjoy a yorkie and have one. everyone deserves to love and be loved by a yorkie. we just want to save you from a bad decision due to concerns about prices. that's not as important as a healthy and perfect pup ready to be loved.

try reading these and see where it leads you.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/207196-how-much-yorkie-puppy.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/207190-what-about-us-warning-graphic.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkietalk-yorkshire-terrier-library/161664-buying-yorkie-read-first-how-buy-yorkie.html

You're right. Continental Kennel Club (CKC) is used by puppy mills and byb'ers wishing to escape the scrutny of AKC (which only registers purebred dogs).

i love my GLORIFIED MUTT...I REALLY COULD CARELESS ABOUT DANG PAPERS THATS NT WTH IM LOOKING FOR A PUPPY NOT AKC PAPERS...I COULD CARELESS ABOUT A DANG SHOW RING DAT DOESNT INTEREST ME I WANT A DOG 2 LOVE N CARE 4.....thnx:)

Is one of these the one that Nancy put together?

Nope, found it.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...g-graphic.html

well u think wat u want 2... my dog is most def not from a puppy mill we bought him from this very nice lady that my mother works with we went to her house and all received pics of Max as he grew..he was well cared 4

It sounds as if you may be upset, that "breeders" are taking advantage of the popularity of this breed to "overprice" their puppies. Don't let your upset keep you for being open to a little different thinking or approach.

What we are trying to say here is that reputable breeders who bred true to the standard, doing all the necessary health checks, who prove their breeding stock worthy of being bred, who register their dogs with AKC here in the USA, this price of $1000 is not at all unreasonable in fact one of our members here did a search and came up with a slightly higher average than $1000.
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I hope that you whatever path you take that you research your breeder well, and that you end up with a happy and healthy pup.

To close the purchase price of a Yorkie will be the least investment you will make over the life of your dog.

You should care about AKC papers, if there is any question of parentage, they are the only thing you have to fall back on.

What I will say is if price is your primary factor....reputable breeders will not sell to you.

For anyone coming on after this and is open to this info:

AKC:
Established 150 years ago
Recognizes 150 breeds
Requires that lineage be proven with AKC registration before a new pup can be registered.
Requires DNA testing on any male that's defined as a frequently used stud.
Can expel a breeder for behaving unethically
Does not allow "double registration".

CKC:
Established about 20 years ago
Recognizes 450 breeds, including mixed breeds.
A pup without previous registration history can be registered as a pure bred by providing 2 witness signatures attesting to the purebred status of the dog along with 3 photos (front,left and right) of the dog to confirm it is ‘of proper breed type.
Allows "double registration" of an AKC dog in to CKC registry.


AKC and CKC have different "breed standards" for their recognized breeds.

There are pros and cons to every registry. But it's not an "apples to apples" comparison between the two. Like everything else, there are good and bad breeders in both groups.

yea one of them was that one...i thought she should see what happens in places that don't supply "show ring" dogs and "papered" dogs...:(

she sounds just like myself at that point in life. narrow minded and not willing to see the real picture.

reading on and on I'm asking myself: What do you want from us? It can't be advice from some very very experienced breeders and Yorkie owners. So... did you just want to vent about prices you don't like to pay? If yes, why didn't you just say so... and save us the time and brain exercise to help you to the best of our abilities! I'm deserting this thread b/c it's frustrating and leads nowhere... BYE!!!

I work in a pet hospital so I just want to talk prices with you as well. Here's my breakdown for you.

Average cost of a BYB pup: $200-$700

If they get LP surgery costs: $1400
As a puppy they will need vaccines and spay/neuter: Neuter/spay surgery is about $200-$300 and then if there's a need for dental extractions they can be $30-60 per tooth that needs pulled (happened with Sadie)
Puppy shots: about 100-200 every four weeks from 8-16 weeks or so. (i'm iffy on the exact dates these are given)

Yealy vaccines after all the pup vaccines are given: $46 exam fee, distemper $26, bordetella $11, fecal w/ giardia $32.50, heartworm test $40, rabies 3 year $29,00 Vectra flea and tick prevention 1 year is: 225.00 (average of 18.80 a tube) Heartworm pills Interceptor for a year 52.50 local licensing for this area is $12-29 for one or three year.

Grand Total yearly health: $491

Dental cleanings (needed pretty often for most yorkies) $300-400 or more for extractions if needed.

Heartworm treatment for those that can't "afford" pills $700++



SO if you can't afford to spend over $1000 for a purebred yorkie, how are you going to afford 12-15 years of this dogs 500 yearly exams and all the other things you will need to give it a quality life? I'm just saying...and that's just vet stuff NOT the clothes, beds, toys, carrier, food, ext you will NEED to have to start.

Yorkshire Terrier Health risks of Yorkshire Terriers

Here is one of the most important reasons that you should buy only from reputable breeders.

You say you have researched alot, then you know how important health checks are.

And you also should understand how costly some of these conditions are. Yorkshire Terriers do have these conditions, and beyond price is the heartache to you and your little one. The unspeakable pain in your heart when your little puppy is walking drunkenly, or crying out in pain from bad knees or inflammation of the pancreas.

Reputable breeders do everything in the power to try to avoid puppies with any of these conditions. And should the unthinkable happen, they will stand beside you and behind every step of the painfull way to bring your pup back to health if at all possible. They will know and care to refer you to specialists, testing protocols that should be done, rehab and other experts that you might need on that journey.

If you didn't want help, why did you ask. If you have all the answers, than why are you asking questions. The ladies have told you, why a good puppy costs so much. That is what you said you wanted to know. They also told you where to go to look, if you only cared about cost. What more can they do, they are not going to give away a puppy that they have worked so hard to take proper care to have. If it were, you would you work for free? What a good breeder does, is invaluable to the breed, and the prices that most charge are reasonable. Do some get ridiculous, yes, but you will find that those are usually not the best breeders anyway. There is a lot of information on this site that can help someone, if they are willing to learn, if not, theres not much we can do.

:thumbup::thumbup: instead of saying this, "well none of our dogs have every had LP before so if you decide she needs surgery then we'll have to have our vet look at her before we do anything about it" ~Linda Greer Greenwood Kennels

Sadie was diagnosed with Grade 3 LP at age 10 months. Thank God it has slipped back in and she's ok and not in pain. we did months of treatments with a VOM specialist for about 60-70 each treatment and that's with a discount for employees. someday it will inevitably slip back out and we will be up for a 1400 LP surgery with NO apparent help from our "cheap" breeders. :( :thumbdown:thumbdown

they TRIED SO HARD to teach me this and tell me this would happen. did I listen NOPE, bought a 400 pup from a BYB and learned the hard way. we\'re just trying to save you from the same situation.

[QUOTE=Mardelin;3212862]You should care about AKC papers, if there is any question of parentage, they are the only thing you have to fall back on.

What I will say is if price is your primary factor....reputable breeders will not sell to you.[/QUOTE]


:thumbup::thumbup: :thumbup: and just to make another point what we post here is visible for the world to see, including those self same reputable breeders who are, reviewing puppy questionnaires.

Although I don\'t necessarily agree with the OP\'s points of view I do feel badly for her. I don\'t blame someone for feeling uncomfortable posting in this forum. The original post is only asking a simple question.

I believe she is looking for a Yorkie as a pet, not a show dog. Papers don\'t matter, size and color don\'t matter. Health does. She has listened and been very respectful in every post. She doesn\'t have to agree with everyone.

I am personally dealing with an extremely reputable breeder myself who has raised show dogs. Several people on this forum have bought from her and have been extremely happy. She comes very, very highly recommended. She has offered me beautiful, healthy, Yorkie puppies for less than the "going rate" for several reasons.