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Breezeaway 07-21-2010 06:26 PM
Dying/Enhancing the show Yorkie
 
Why was the dying hair thread closed? I didnt see anyone out of line. Just wondering why a thread was closed for no reason.
I thought it was interesting to discuss the whys and why nots of dying and enhancing show dogs.
The video clearly displayed the difference one can make in a dog in just an hour of time. Very informational.

JeanieK 07-21-2010 06:38 PM
Wow!!! I don't get it either. Friendly chit chat. Unless the OP requested that it be closed. I thought it was interesting.

gemy 07-21-2010 06:43 PM
Yup me too. But admin can close or not with no explanation. Lets see if this one gets closed

DvlshAngel985 07-21-2010 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3208733)
Yup me too. But admin can close or not with no explanation. Lets see if this one gets closed
I asked for it to be closed.

JeanieK 07-21-2010 06:46 PM
usually they put a note that it was closed at the OPs request.

I do agree it does not look like dye because it did not color his hands. But it sure made a difference on the coat.

Just a thought, do you think it might have been closed because he is advertising a product?

JeanieK 07-21-2010 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3208742)
I asked for it to be closed.
OK that answers our question.

xxmxaxrxyxx 07-21-2010 06:52 PM
wow really enjoyed the videos

CJxDanielle 07-21-2010 07:42 PM
Those videos were very interesting. Nice to see the transformation in the dog, now only if it were natural it would be my approval!

Its kind of sad that extremist in the dog showing world will do whatever it takes for a win :(

kpstoybox 07-21-2010 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3208742)
I asked for it to be closed.
Awe..too bad...I thought it was an educational thread...and was learning a lot from it.

chachi 07-21-2010 08:59 PM
No disrespect intended but it would be good to continue if show breeders were giving their impute. Then it would be educational. The way it is it is pet owners and parti breeders and its obvious the parti breeders have an ax to grind with show breeders and I do understand why but that isn't education. At least thats how the last thread ended up going maybe this one wont

Breny 07-21-2010 09:18 PM
Oh wow - looks like this has been a big topic in the past as well. Here is just one of the old conversations I found

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...e-yorkies.html

kpstoybox 07-21-2010 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3208887)
No disrespect intended but it would be good to continue if show breeders were giving their impute. Then it would be educational. The way it is it is pet owners and parti breeders and its obvious the parti breeders have an ax to grind with show breeders and I do understand why but that isn't education. At least thats how the last thread ended up going maybe this one wont
With all due respect...we can't make anyone post who dosen't care too. How is it a parti breeders fault who posts and why? :confused:

As far as education...those video's are indeed very educational for some of us!!

chachi 07-21-2010 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3208902)
With all due respect...we can't make anyone post who dosen't care too. How is it a parti breeders fault who posts and why? :confused:

As far as education...those video's are indeed very educational for some of us!!
I agree the video was educational but the posts were gossip and weren't educational thats what I was pointing out. I didn't say it was the parti breeders fault that show breeders weren't posting. I said it would be educational if they did. I have seen threads about dying enhancing in the past that were in the show section where show breeders gave their impute and it was interesting

mimimomo 07-22-2010 12:37 AM
I've seen these vids before & thought the whole process was grueling & cruel to the poor Yorkie...esp the top knot teasing & pulling & tugging parts, ouch!
He was using a Madan brush.:D

yorkie_mama22 07-22-2010 05:11 AM
Wow I really enjoyed watching the topknot. I admit it did look kind of rough but you can tell the dog was just laying there enjoying it and not moving an inch. If only mine would lay like that! It seemed like it too forever. I didn't know your suppose to tease the hair and all that jazz. lol no wonder mine don't turn out so nice. But I don't like how low it was, I prefer them up on the head a bit higher.

cheryl19 07-22-2010 05:41 AM
I have a question, are all show dogs that easy to groom? Not that the grooming part was easy but how the dog just let this man do all that. I was wondering if that dog was drugged?
I never knew all that went into doing a topknot. I'm lucky if I can get them to stay put long enough to put a bow in.

kpstoybox 07-22-2010 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cheryl19 (Post 3209073)
I have a question, are all show dogs that easy to groom? Not that the grooming part was easy but how the dog just let this man do all that. I was wondering if that dog was drugged?
I never knew all that went into doing a topknot. I'm lucky if I can get them to stay put long enough to put a bow in.
Being groomed is an everyday fact of life for a show dog. As this dog demonstrated...many get used to it and tolerate the grooming procedure's quite well. However, what these video's show is a dog being groomed for show. This is not your normal everyday grooming routine. This dog is not spray painted everyday of it's life...only before a show.

Brooklynn 07-22-2010 06:41 AM
I didn't watch the videos LOL...but Radar lays his head on his roll pillow while I do his top knot and doesn't move for the most part. He loves the attention he gets and gets to lay down his favorite part of grooming for show LOL...I'm always having to tap him to wake up while standing when I'm wrapping him because he falls asleep and I have to tap him before he falls over LOL...grooming for show I think is always a great calming affect on me and my dog. I love grooming for show and for pleasure.
I love the Pure Paws condioning shine spray in the purple bottle!

Donna

celstu1 07-22-2010 06:46 AM
Ridiculously beautiful Yorkie! Wow! I wish I could get a top knot in my boys. I tried to grow out Fletcher's coat one time but whenever he peed it would get on his hair and he would mat and stink. Although in my eyes, he's gorgeous, he is not in any way even remotely close to a show dog, at almost 13lbs, but his coat is beautiful, shiny and silky so he could have a long coat. How do you keep them from smelling like pee though?

Teegy 07-22-2010 10:10 AM
Teegy would stop looking like a little boy if I did that and I think his granny would kill me.

Rhetts_mama 07-22-2010 10:27 AM
I won't comment on the dying/enhancing since I don't show. But I'm blown away by how still that girl stood during the process. Rhett is good during his grooming till it comes to drying him off. Scarlett on the other hand, howls like I'm killing her during her bath. I'm hoping she'll calm down since this is going to be a weekly process.

Nancy1999 07-22-2010 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3209443)
I won't comment on the dying/enhancing since I don't show. But I'm blown away by how still that girl stood during the process. Rhett is good during his grooming till it comes to drying him off. Scarlett on the other hand, howls like I'm killing her during her bath. I'm hoping she'll calm down since this is going to be a weekly process.
Joey's breeder said that she tries to pick a dog that enjoys the grooming process; some dogs really seem to love this one on one time they have with their owners. I think they also try to choose dogs that have that attitude and know they are beautiful, so that they can strut their stuff in the ring.

Brooklynn 07-22-2010 10:42 AM
Grooming with Radar is relaxing for both me and Radar! He loves his one on one time with mommy!! He'd be happy no matter where we were...grooming table, show ring, running on the beach, running in the backyard or just laying in my chair! I love when people stop at my set up and watch me do his top knot...they are ooohhhhhhing and awwwwwwwwing on how still he is laying on his roll pillow with his eyes closed LOL...he's a funny little boy!

Donna

Nancy1999 07-22-2010 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3209469)
Grooming with Radar is relaxing for both me and Radar! He loves his one on one time with mommy!! He'd be happy no matter where we were...grooming table, show ring, running on the beach, running in the backyard or just laying in my chair! I love when people stop at my set up and watch me do his top knot...they are ooohhhhhhing and awwwwwwwwing on how still he is laying on his roll pillow with his eyes closed LOL...he's a funny little boy!

Donna
Joey's breeder sent home a little bone shaped pillow with him and told me to only use it only for grooming, not as a toy. When I get the pillow out, he knows to lay his head on it while I do his topknot. He's had to learn to be very patient with me because I'm all thumbs, but the little pillow works great, and he lies their peacefully while I struggle. Now combing his mustache is another thing, he doesn't care for that. :p

misslissa 07-22-2010 10:51 AM
Okay how long dose all this take? the show grooming i mean, because it seems to me like it must take hours.

Nancy1999 07-22-2010 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by misslissa (Post 3209482)
Okay how long dose all this take? the show grooming i mean, because it seems to me like it must take hours.
From my understanding, the wraps are the most time consuming, but experienced breeders say that they can put the wraps in minutes. I would guess that they can do the wraps before I can do a good topknot. :D

Dzbabykel 07-22-2010 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3209124)
I didn't watch the videos LOL...but Radar lays his head on his roll pillow while I do his top knot and doesn't move for the most part. He loves the attention he gets and gets to lay down his favorite part of grooming for show LOL...I'm always having to tap him to wake up while standing when I'm wrapping him because he falls asleep and I have to tap him before he falls over LOL...grooming for show I think is always a great calming affect on me and my dog. I love grooming for show and for pleasure.
I love the Pure Paws condioning shine spray in the purple bottle!

Donna
Aww picturing that is so cute! Is Radar a show dog? How did you train him to do that?? :)

Brooklynn 07-22-2010 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3209477)
Joey's breeder sent home a little bone shaped pillow with him and told me to only use it only for grooming, not as a toy. When I get the pillow out, he knows to lay his head on it while I do his topknot. He's had to learn to be very patient with me because I'm all thumbs, but the little pillow works great, and he lies their peacefully while I struggle. Now combing his mustache is another thing, he doesn't care for that. :p
Radar doesn't like his mustache being combed either LOL...but he loves his momma so much he deals LOL

Brooklynn 07-22-2010 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3209492)
From my understanding, the wraps are the most time consuming, but experienced breeders say that they can put the wraps in minutes. I would guess that they can do the wraps before I can do a good topknot. :D
Wraps are probably THE most time consuming part....I think if I'm not in a major hurry it takes me about 20 minutes after his bath and oiling and blow drying so all in all it takes me about an hour to bathe, oil, dry and wrap for during the week. He's my pet and has free run of the house, access anytime to the backyard via doggie door and sleeps with me at night. The wraps never bother him so I guess he's one spoiled show dog LOL

Brooklynn 07-22-2010 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dzbabykel (Post 3209524)
Aww picturing that is so cute! Is Radar a show dog? How did you train him to do that?? :)
It is cute to see him laying his head on his pillow with his eyes closed :) Yes, Radar is a show dog :) Patience and repeatativeness is the key. Some don't ever lay still but Radar is such a momma's boy LOL....
I've actually been very lucky to have all my show dogs lay on the pillow nice and quiet :)


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