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4joy4joy · 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM

I read that you nee-ed to use very fine wire rolled fencing and bury it at least 4 inches under ground and 20 inches above. These are very dangerous as they can seizures and death just by them touching one.

4joy4joy · 10-13-2010, 07:19 PM

We have two female Yorkies that are our furbabies! Yesterday morning , early my hubby put them out in our fenced yard. He let them in and our 9 year old girl was foaming from the mouth and literally could not stand up. Her body started to droop and I knew what i was as I had a friend with a Yorkie that had the same thing happen. I yelled we have to get to the emergency vet NOW!My hubby rinsed her mouth and foam and I wrapped her in a large bath towel. I laid her on the counter while putting on my clothes and she started having seizures. I drove as I knew I would break speed limits to get to the vet. They took her immediately and started an IV and administered Diazepam. They stabilized her and we then took her to our vet and they administered more IV and Valium. They did a complete blood workup and diagnostic plus profile. All test were negative leaving her with no permanent damage. By 5 pm she was back to being our little girl. They did leave the IV in till this afternoon just to make sure she would not need it again.
We will NEVER put my babies out in the yard again at night nor the daytime without being with them. This encounter was so scary as I was sure she would die before we got her to emergency vet.
Please be careful, Bufo frogs are life threatening to our babies.

CouversMom · 10-13-2010, 07:45 PM

How gross... and scary that they are poisonous

I know my two would love to chase frogs if we had them around here.

4joy4joy · 10-13-2010, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenniesMom

can i come live at ur house i love frogs Sienna trys to eat snails daily

Come live in Florida and see if you love Bufo frogs. I had a very expensive day that was worth the money as she lived.
I do not understand how anyone could just rinse the mouth as that did not stop seizures or eyes rolling in the back of her eye or the death rattle breathing. Her gums were red as blood.
Kill every Bufo you see they are good for nothing.I will not worry about killing a species that will kill or babies.They were not for this habitat but they multiply well. Google them tons of info.

ASTPhi877 · 10-14-2010, 06:59 AM

Has anyone tried using an airborn bug spray under the lights at night. That's what we do (in Louisiana, GEAUX SAINTS!!!

) and it has really cut down on the number of frogs and lizards we have to deal with, because they have nothing to eat! My hubby just sprayed under all the lights at night, where the bugs collect, at first every night and then every other night or so. I swear, even in the deep south, ours is the only house with absolutely no mosquitoes in the yard!!! Maybe this will work for some of you, too

Good luck with the frogs everyone!!!

Debbier2010 · 10-14-2010, 02:16 PM

Thank God the weather is getting cooler and there are not as many frogs anymore... But you have to keep a close eye during the hot and rainy months I usually rinse their mouth out and squeeze lemon juice in their mouth I heard it works and so far so good no seizures just some foaming of the mouth but I usually catch it pretty fast I don't know what would happen if they actually ate one....

MochaBoyMom · 10-14-2010, 02:30 PM

I found these solutions online, hope one of them will work for you.....

1. Relocate them. Although probably not practical for a large infestation, it is always possible to capture the frogs with a glass or net and simply move them farther away in the hopes that they will take up residence somewhere else. I have had to do this with a few frogs that managed to get into our house after particularly rainy periods. If you have standing water nearby, some people have advised capturing the tadpoles as well if you can find them.

2. Eliminate favorable habitats. Old wood piles, pots, ferns, shrubs, and other relatively dark, damp places can provide convenient places for frogs to hide and breed, so if it is possible to get rid of these without damaging your property, you might want to do so. If you have pets, loose pet food and water dishes can also attract frogs, so these are additional items to consider removing.

3. Turn off outdoor lights. The idea behind this one is that the lights attract bugs, which in turn attract the frogs because frogs like to eat bugs. If you don’t mind keeping the lights off, this can keep the frogs at a safe distance from your house.

4. Kill all of the bugs. By eliminating all of the insects and other critters around your home, you can drive off the frogs by removing their food sources. There are plenty of pesticides available that can kill bugs, and many of them will kill the frogs also because their skin is a permeable membrane that is especially susceptible to chemicals, even ones that are relatively non-toxic to humans. However, using pesticides will defeat the purpose of organic gardening and may also incur the wrath of environmentalists, pro-animal groups, and whatever gods of nature might exist in your corner of the universe.

5. Bring in natural predators. Interestingly, frogs have a variety of natural enemies that will happily eat them, including snakes, turtles, lizards, crows, owls, hawks, hedgehogs, foxes, raccoons, rats, otters, minks, large fish, and even other frogs. Additionally, many kinds of waterbirds, turtles, snakes, fish, and aquatic insects eat the tadpoles that eventually morph into frogs. Although some people may dislike most of these other animals as much as the frogs, if you’re looking for the “greenest” solution, this is probably it.

6. Use the power of citrus. In the case of Hawaii’s coqui frog problem mentioned above, the Department of Agriculture in that state recently approved the use of citric acid as a method of frog control. Citric acid is found naturally in citrus fruits such as lemons, limes, and oranges, and is also added to many kinds of fruit-flavored drinks to add tartness. Although generally safe for human consumption, a 16% solution of it (equal to about double the strength of lemon juice) has apparently proved very effective in wiping out large frog populations. Similar solutions may be available at chemical supply or hardware stores. If you could manage to procure some and have a reliable sprayer, this might turn into an interesting experiment.

7. Repel them with moth ball chemicals. Some people have had success with various snake repellents or even repellents that are labeled specifically for frogs. The active ingredients in these products are naphthalene or paradichlorobenzene, the same chemicals used in moth balls. They work by emitting a certain odor that repels the frogs and can be deposited around the perimeter of your yard. However, in sufficient concentration these chemicals can leach into nearby water, killing fish and other types of aquatic life.

8. Bleach them out. Several people have reported that regular strength bleach is very effective at killing frogs if sprayed directly on them. Note that some people consider this a relatively inhumane method of dispatching them, however, which could incur the wrath of the same groups mentioned in #4 above.

9. Repel them with salt or vinegar solutions. A less drastic version of the bleach treatment is to spray the affected areas with a salt water or vinegar solution. This acts as a repellent by causing a slight burning sensation on the frogs’ feet but will not do any permanent damage or kill the frogs unless you use very high concentrations.

10. Turn up the caffeine. Back in 2001, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) approved the use of concentrated caffeine to control infestations of coqui frogs in Hawaii. This came after a U.S. Department of Agriculture study found that a 2 percent solution of caffeine, which is about 125 times more powerful than what is found in an average cola drink, was 100% effective at killing frogs in laboratory tests. It was also effective in wiping out slugs, snails, lizards, and toads. Some groups have opposed this experimental use of caffeine for frog control because its effects on other “nontarget” wildlife and the environment in general are not yet known.

Below the rather extreme levels used in the USDA experiment, I am not sure exactly what strength of caffeine would be required to make an effective frog blaster; perhaps something just a little stronger than a double espresso or Jolt cola would do the trick. Or we could even try an industrial strength version of Karlonian iced tea, where I have been known to steep the tea bags for an unusually long period of time. As with some of the other methods, it is difficult for me to determine whether they would be considered “organic” or not — caffeine is found in nature after all, but we haven’t really tried to use it as a pesticide either.

At any rate, all of these experiments in frog control reinforce what was probably the ultimate takeaway lesson from my years of studying chemistry in college: it’s the dose (as opposed to the notion of a “good” or “bad” drug) that makes the poison!

http://www.karlonia.com/2008/08/25/h...-rid-of-frogs/

MochaBoyMom · 10-14-2010, 02:35 PM

Here are more links that might help

Cane Toads and Dogs! And how to deal with them! (this one specifically talks about toads poisoning dogs)

Excluding toads

4joy4joy · 10-16-2010, 08:40 AM

Everyone might not agree with me but I would have NO problem killing Bufo frogs and not worry about being humane!! I saw first hand how my baby suffered just from contact with one. She did NOT bite it. There is NO choice for me the Bufo's will be GONE if seen on my property. I do not like killing anything but these frogs are a death threat to my girls!!!

10-13-2010, 07:19 PM	#32
4joy4joy Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 11	Dangerous Bofo frog We have two female Yorkies that are our furbabies! Yesterday morning , early my hubby put them out in our fenced yard. He let them in and our 9 year old girl was foaming from the mouth and literally could not stand up. Her body started to droop and I knew what i was as I had a friend with a Yorkie that had the same thing happen. I yelled we have to get to the emergency vet NOW!My hubby rinsed her mouth and foam and I wrapped her in a large bath towel. I laid her on the counter while putting on my clothes and she started having seizures. I drove as I knew I would break speed limits to get to the vet. They took her immediately and started an IV and administered Diazepam. They stabilized her and we then took her to our vet and they administered more IV and Valium. They did a complete blood workup and diagnostic plus profile. All test were negative leaving her with no permanent damage. By 5 pm she was back to being our little girl. They did leave the IV in till this afternoon just to make sure she would not need it again. We will NEVER put my babies out in the yard again at night nor the daytime without being with them. This encounter was so scary as I was sure she would die before we got her to emergency vet. Please be careful, Bufo frogs are life threatening to our babies. Last edited by 4joy4joy; 10-13-2010 at 07:22 PM. Reason: miss- spelled word!

10-13-2010, 07:45 PM	#33
CouversMom and Khloe Mae's too! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 14,732	How gross... and scary that they are poisonous I know my two would love to chase frogs if we had them around here. __________________ Michelle- mommy to Couver and Khloe Mae! http://yorkiehavenrescue.com/

10-14-2010, 06:59 AM	#35
ASTPhi877 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 192	Kill the bugs Has anyone tried using an airborn bug spray under the lights at night. That's what we do (in Louisiana, GEAUX SAINTS!!! ) and it has really cut down on the number of frogs and lizards we have to deal with, because they have nothing to eat! My hubby just sprayed under all the lights at night, where the bugs collect, at first every night and then every other night or so. I swear, even in the deep south, ours is the only house with absolutely no mosquitoes in the yard!!! Maybe this will work for some of you, too Good luck with the frogs everyone!!!

10-14-2010, 02:16 PM	#36
Debbier2010 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Minneola,Florida Posts: 200	Thank God the weather is getting cooler and there are not as many frogs anymore... But you have to keep a close eye during the hot and rainy months I usually rinse their mouth out and squeeze lemon juice in their mouth I heard it works and so far so good no seizures just some foaming of the mouth but I usually catch it pretty fast I don't know what would happen if they actually ate one.... __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a yorkie licking your face.

10-14-2010, 02:30 PM	#37
MochaBoyMom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 611	I found these solutions online, hope one of them will work for you..... 1. Relocate them. Although probably not practical for a large infestation, it is always possible to capture the frogs with a glass or net and simply move them farther away in the hopes that they will take up residence somewhere else. I have had to do this with a few frogs that managed to get into our house after particularly rainy periods. If you have standing water nearby, some people have advised capturing the tadpoles as well if you can find them. 2. Eliminate favorable habitats. Old wood piles, pots, ferns, shrubs, and other relatively dark, damp places can provide convenient places for frogs to hide and breed, so if it is possible to get rid of these without damaging your property, you might want to do so. If you have pets, loose pet food and water dishes can also attract frogs, so these are additional items to consider removing. 3. Turn off outdoor lights. The idea behind this one is that the lights attract bugs, which in turn attract the frogs because frogs like to eat bugs. If you don’t mind keeping the lights off, this can keep the frogs at a safe distance from your house. 4. Kill all of the bugs. By eliminating all of the insects and other critters around your home, you can drive off the frogs by removing their food sources. There are plenty of pesticides available that can kill bugs, and many of them will kill the frogs also because their skin is a permeable membrane that is especially susceptible to chemicals, even ones that are relatively non-toxic to humans. However, using pesticides will defeat the purpose of organic gardening and may also incur the wrath of environmentalists, pro-animal groups, and whatever gods of nature might exist in your corner of the universe. 5. Bring in natural predators. Interestingly, frogs have a variety of natural enemies that will happily eat them, including snakes, turtles, lizards, crows, owls, hawks, hedgehogs, foxes, raccoons, rats, otters, minks, large fish, and even other frogs. Additionally, many kinds of waterbirds, turtles, snakes, fish, and aquatic insects eat the tadpoles that eventually morph into frogs. Although some people may dislike most of these other animals as much as the frogs, if you’re looking for the “greenest” solution, this is probably it. 6. Use the power of citrus. In the case of Hawaii’s coqui frog problem mentioned above, the Department of Agriculture in that state recently approved the use of citric acid as a method of frog control. Citric acid is found naturally in citrus fruits such as lemons, limes, and oranges, and is also added to many kinds of fruit-flavored drinks to add tartness. Although generally safe for human consumption, a 16% solution of it (equal to about double the strength of lemon juice) has apparently proved very effective in wiping out large frog populations. Similar solutions may be available at chemical supply or hardware stores. If you could manage to procure some and have a reliable sprayer, this might turn into an interesting experiment. 7. Repel them with moth ball chemicals. Some people have had success with various snake repellents or even repellents that are labeled specifically for frogs. The active ingredients in these products are naphthalene or paradichlorobenzene, the same chemicals used in moth balls. They work by emitting a certain odor that repels the frogs and can be deposited around the perimeter of your yard. However, in sufficient concentration these chemicals can leach into nearby water, killing fish and other types of aquatic life. 8. Bleach them out. Several people have reported that regular strength bleach is very effective at killing frogs if sprayed directly on them. Note that some people consider this a relatively inhumane method of dispatching them, however, which could incur the wrath of the same groups mentioned in #4 above. 9. Repel them with salt or vinegar solutions. A less drastic version of the bleach treatment is to spray the affected areas with a salt water or vinegar solution. This acts as a repellent by causing a slight burning sensation on the frogs’ feet but will not do any permanent damage or kill the frogs unless you use very high concentrations. 10. Turn up the caffeine. Back in 2001, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) approved the use of concentrated caffeine to control infestations of coqui frogs in Hawaii. This came after a U.S. Department of Agriculture study found that a 2 percent solution of caffeine, which is about 125 times more powerful than what is found in an average cola drink, was 100% effective at killing frogs in laboratory tests. It was also effective in wiping out slugs, snails, lizards, and toads. Some groups have opposed this experimental use of caffeine for frog control because its effects on other “nontarget” wildlife and the environment in general are not yet known. Below the rather extreme levels used in the USDA experiment, I am not sure exactly what strength of caffeine would be required to make an effective frog blaster; perhaps something just a little stronger than a double espresso or Jolt cola would do the trick. Or we could even try an industrial strength version of Karlonian iced tea, where I have been known to steep the tea bags for an unusually long period of time. As with some of the other methods, it is difficult for me to determine whether they would be considered “organic” or not — caffeine is found in nature after all, but we haven’t really tried to use it as a pesticide either. At any rate, all of these experiments in frog control reinforce what was probably the ultimate takeaway lesson from my years of studying chemistry in college: it’s the dose (as opposed to the notion of a “good” or “bad” drug) that makes the poison! http://www.karlonia.com/2008/08/25/h...-rid-of-frogs/ Last edited by MochaBoyMom; 10-14-2010 at 02:31 PM.

10-13-2010, 07:04 PM	#31
4joy4joy Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 11	I read that you nee-ed to use very fine wire rolled fencing and bury it at least 4 inches under ground and 20 inches above. These are very dangerous as they can seizures and death just by them touching one.

10-14-2010, 02:35 PM	#38
MochaBoyMom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 611	Here are more links that might help Cane Toads and Dogs! And how to deal with them! (this one specifically talks about toads poisoning dogs) Excluding toads

10-16-2010, 08:40 AM	#39
4joy4joy Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 11	Everyone might not agree with me but I would have NO problem killing Bufo frogs and not worry about being humane!! I saw first hand how my baby suffered just from contact with one. She did NOT bite it. There is NO choice for me the Bufo's will be GONE if seen on my property. I do not like killing anything but these frogs are a death threat to my girls!!! Last edited by 4joy4joy; 10-16-2010 at 08:41 AM. Reason: did not put the word not in post