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I agree 100%. But if you dare mention that on the breeder site - then you are being mean.

I had the same thought when I saw this thread...it's about time! Although something similar I'm sure has been posted here a gazillion times the problem is those that NEED to be reading it...probably will never see it.:rolleyes: Still it's always worth repeating.:animal36

This is WHY it is SO important to offer the TRUTH about what paw(foot)print is left behind because of irresponsible breeding practices!:thumbdown

Donna, you deserve a huge pat on the back for posting this so succinctly! And a bazillion platinum stars! :star::star::star::star::star::star:

Maybe all the "accidental" breedings occur because they'd rather be considered lacking common sense than a BYB?

So many posts I would love to quote and :yeahthat: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Rhetts_Mama, I could not agree with you more on this topic. And Yorkiedaze, I'm surprised we even have Mardelin around. From her posts, I know she put in an insane amount of effort and time to learn what she knows about our beloved breed. So for her to come here, and instead of sharing insight and reading happy stories, she comes here to be frustrated and pull her hair out at every, "oops," "we all had to start somewhere" kind of thread.

Sorry guys, but this is a topic that I'm rather passionate about. The other thing that gets me is the excuse "I wanted her to experience being a mother before I spayed her".

No you didn't. YOU wanted to experience breeding before you spayed her. She couldn't care less if she never had a litter. Just be honest about your reasoning behind breeding. It doesn't make what you did right, but at least you aren't adding being a liar to the list of everything else that was wrong.

[climbing back off soap box now]

I couldn't agree more! :thumbup:

I agree with you on this, and it really bothers me when she criticized for being too harsh on newbie breeders. Breeders in all different stages of breeding experience have an opportunity to tap into her wealth of knowledge, and it would be a terrible shame if she ever experiences burnout. I wish some of us would be more on the same page and support these experienced breeders even when their posts aren't sugar coated. I think when we just coddle the newbie breeder; we encourage "hurt feelings" rather than breeding knowledge.

The part I don't get is, ok, your girl is pregnant, so the best course of action is to wait until she is in labor and then try to figure out what your are supposed to do:mad:

That phrase literally sends me into a rage! That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Bashing is a word that comes to mind when I read this statement. People get offended when the breeder gives their opinion on the situation along with a wealth of knowledge. They can't see past the opinion to see why they claim they came to YT, HELLO TO RECEIVE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
They are so caught up in not being praised for their irrational efforts that they can't see the bigger picture. Point being there is great information being offered backed by years and years of experience, and they are getting at no charge.
I am not above anyone who has bred their Yorkie for the sake of extra income(which from what I have heard is a joke in itself if it is done the right way) or just having offspring from a loving pet, because I to, bred my pair for the sake of giving my two daughters pups. Thankfully the breeding did not take and the furbabies will never be bred again. I made this decision because of all the posts I have read on YT about what a responsible/reputable breeder is all about which is the betterment of the breed.
It has been those so called bashing threads that have changed my way of thinking on the entire situation and in every one of those threads I have picked up more than two or three things that has been excellent advice and useful information. Anyway, that is my two cents worth on the situation.

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:pIF YOU DON'T WANT THE TRUTH, THEN DON'T ASK A BREEDER!!!:p

You're the perfect example of why people post the way they do. Just because the OP started the thread, they are not the only ones reading it. Everyone one on this forum, and those reading that have not joined can come and gain something out of each and every post.

I learned the same way you did; by reading the threads. So - they are actually educating people. I'm not sure what they are supposed to say; I've only been here a fairly short time and I've already seen numerous "I just wanted her to experience the miracle of motherhood". Can you imagine how many times the long-time breeders on here have had to address that issue? I'm sure it gets old about the 200th time.

People can get mad; whatever. They are never going to find the knowledge on any other forum that they will find here at YT.

Not from what I've seen.

Like the style or not ~ YT is the best.:animal36

I like that line. Seems to be happening a lot with the newbies or maybe there are just a lot more newbies this year.

he...he... he...
Your post is funny ... the subject is not...
i agree with you .

no. it\'s not an excuse to get sympathy..........there are ppl behind the posts.