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07-12-2010, 06:14 AM | #1 |
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| Are all brokers bad. A friend of mine has been looking for a yorkiepoo. She found a woman who she really liked and went to see mom and pups and was very happy she even got to meet dad because the owner happened to be there. well 14 weeks come along and she call from a new woman telling her she can pick up her puppy and wear. this was a different address she asked why and the woman told her it was because she was a seller she sold the puppies because the breeder did not like to have people parading through her home. Is this a okay situation? i mean is it okay to hire a broker to sell your puppies? the broker said that she only sold one litter at a time and when my friend went to pick up her puppy that was the only litter in the house she went upstairs and all the doors wear open this woman clearly had nothing to hide. i was under the impression that brokers wear bad i told my friend that and she said it was not like a normal broker just a person who sold puppies for a friend. what do you think?
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07-12-2010, 06:21 AM | #2 |
No Longer a Member | I'm not a breeder, but I could understand not wanting someone parading around my house. However, shouldn't the breeder welcome the possible new familys into her house so she can show that there isn't anything that she/he as the breeder is trying to hide? It seems odd, and I can see both sides. But maybe someone else has more helpful input. |
07-12-2010, 06:24 AM | #3 |
Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member | I think if the breeder dosn't want people parading through her home she may have something to hide. If you are going to breed dogs and sell them on you should expect people to want to come to your house to see what situation the puppy was born and raised in. If a breeder is uncomfertable with this then why breed and sell your dogs? Why was the mom at another house? and why did you need to speak to this other women at all if you were eventually allowed in the house to pick up the dog? She could have spoken to you over the phone or through emails then set up a time when you could visit. Im not sure it just sounds strange, but you say the house was okay when you got there? then maybe Im over reacting.
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07-12-2010, 06:26 AM | #4 |
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| I'd be wary of a breeder that didn't want possible buyers in their home. How do you know what kind of home the puppy comes from? I would want to know. When I bred Lhasas I was happy to have purchasers come to my home to see the puppies - in fact I encouraged them to come several times until the puppy was ready to leave, so they would be able to "bond" with the puppy before taking him/her home.
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07-12-2010, 06:36 AM | #5 |
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| I think they are because you dont get to see where the pup was raised. You could be buying a pup that came from a byb or puppymill for all you know. Reputable breeders dont use brokers. They want to know about the person their pup is going to
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07-12-2010, 07:08 AM | #6 |
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| Nope, definately not OK. The breeder doesn't like people coming in her home? So in other words, she doesn't think they have a right to see where the pups were raised, and the parents and she doesn't care enough to know the kind of families they are going to? What is she trying to hide that she doesn't want perspective owners to see? IMO, not a very caring, responsible breeder. Not the kind of breeder I'd want to get a dog from. Then again, she's purposely breeding mutts, so that alone speaks volumes, IMO. And if your friend sees nothing wrong with that and doesn't think it's suspect... Last edited by BamaFan121s; 07-12-2010 at 07:10 AM. |
07-12-2010, 07:11 AM | #7 |
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| There are several things that I am noting from your story that indict it is time to move away from this situation. Reputable breeders will tell you they breed to better the breed. They breed to standards and would never intentionally mix a yorkie with a poodle to produce puppies. After this breeder mixed these two breeds together she then passed the puppies off to someone else to sell because "she didn't want people parading through her house". That statement further makes this situation even more questionable because it says to me she is selling puppies only for a profit. She is not concerned with the idea of making sure her puppies go to home that *she* approved. I will guarantee there was no testing done of the parents or a good contract for the health of these puppies. I haven't even touched on the idea that your friend went to the breeders home to begin with and now the puppies have and her phone number has been passed on to a new woman. Shady, shady, shady! A broker is a broker~they are selling someone puppies and the breeder is not taking the responsibility seriously of breeding. If she doesn't want people parading through her home then she shouldn't breed.
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07-12-2010, 07:20 AM | #8 |
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| Would it even matter if she tested them before hand? Over time, people know what specific issues to test for with different breeds...know what to test for and avoid breeding. When you are combining the gene pools of two different breeds, who knows how they are going to pair up. How would you know what to even test for? |
07-12-2010, 07:30 AM | #9 | |
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07-12-2010, 07:40 AM | #10 |
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| Ditto to everything said. When selling through a broker, the breeder has no control over who is buying the puppy, which in turn indicates that she really doesn't "give a ****"!!! And the buyer has no idea of how the puppy was raised. Did it spend it's entire life in a cage, is it socialized, is it fearful. Is it going to hide in fear everytime you turn on the vacuum or the dryer. But then again, Just the fact that she is breeding for mutts pretty much tells the whole story. |
07-12-2010, 09:02 AM | #11 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | Did I miss something? Didn't your friend say that she went to see the pups and met both parents? Where was that? Wasn't that the original breeders home? If so, I'd say the story the broker gave about her "not wanting people in her home" was BS, and it's entirely possible that she did not get the puppy she was looking at before. Bait and switch? And since everyone else has mentioned the ethics of anyone purposely cross breeding, I will refrain.
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07-12-2010, 09:05 AM | #12 | |
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Maybe the mom and dad she went to see wern't the real mom and dad at all, and it's possible that the pup she got wasn't the origional pup! Basically I dont think honest breeders would have a problem with you coming whenever you like because they would have nothing to hide.
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07-12-2010, 10:10 AM | #13 |
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| I'm confused as to why the puppy was turned over to a broker if it had already been sold. |
07-12-2010, 10:16 AM | #14 | |
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I didn't understand that either but the above would
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07-12-2010, 10:20 AM | #15 |
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| Sorry but this whole story makes no sense to me. I agree with everyone else here somethings fishy, why if you had already purchased the puppy would it be handed off to a broker, and didnt you originally go to the breeders home to meet your puppy?? Very confusing and fishy?? Unless I missed something?? |
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